Glevencestrian/Allanean War (OOC)

[Glevenschester]

To discuss details about the war other than discussions in character. The IC thread requires a telegram to enter.
IC thread:
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[Islamic Holy Sites]

First things first: please show us a map. Also, what’s your population and military equipment do you have?

[Glevenschester]

First things first: please show us a map. Also, what’s your population and military equipment do you have?

The free population is 656,660.
Of these 52.45% are women, 6,068 are
full-time military personnel and 7,250 are reserve military personnel (who mostly have other jobs). The average age is 36.

There are 25,000 slaves in the country.

[Allanea]

1. Because you have edited your opening IC post substantially, would it be possible for your to summarize the events leading up to slavery becoming legal in Glevenchester?
2. What naval vessels does Glevencester possess?
3. What are its principal industries? Where does it get electric power?
4. Indeed is there a map?

[Islamic Holy Sites]

First things first: please show us a map. Also, what’s your population and military equipment do you have?

The free population is 656,660.
Of these 52.45% are women, 6,068 are
full-time military personnel and 7,250 are reserve military personnel (who mostly have other jobs). The average age is 36.

There are 25,000 slaves in the country.

You’ve got about 3% of your population into slavery. Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

[Allanea]

The free population is 656,660.
Of these 52.45% are women, 6,068 are
full-time military personnel and 7,250 are reserve military personnel (who mostly have other jobs). The average age is 36.

There are 25,000 slaves in the country.

You’ve got about 35% of your population into slavery. Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

25,000 is not 35% of 650,000. It's... about 5%?

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Is this open? I do believe that Laka could intervene solely because of the slavery issue

[Toonga]

Tagging for future post.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

You’ve got about 35% of your population into slavery. Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

25,000 is not 35% of 650,000. It's... about 5%?

Damn I accidentally used 70,000 instead of 700,000 my bad

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Going to post this here because it's more than possible that GCN might join since IHS is involved.

[Glevenschester]

The free population is 656,660.
Of these 52.45% are women, 6,068 are
full-time military personnel and 7,250 are reserve military personnel (who mostly have other jobs). The average age is 36.

There are 25,000 slaves in the country.

Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

Well
1. There not part of the local
population.
2. We do have riots, from left-wing people, Third Positionists (who feel slavery threatens certain people’s jobs) and certain liberals, some slaves have joined in and been killed, save one who was wounded, surrendered and is on death row for murder.

3. We have a large Army and police service for a country of our size. If there was a large scale slave-revolt, army and police reserves would temporarily be called up and then go back to their regular jobs.

Is this open? I do believe that Laka could intervene solely because of the slavery issue

It’s TG to enter, which side will Laka fight on and why?

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

Well
1. There not part of the local
population.
2. We do have riots, from left-wing people, Third Positionists (who feel slavery threatens certain people’s jobs) and certain liberals, some slaves have joined in and been killed, save one who was wounded, surrendered and is on death row for murder.

3. We have a large Army and police service for a country of our size. If there was a large scale slave-revolt, army and police reserves would temporarily be called up and then go back to their regular jobs.

If a war happened and a fairly large, well-trained body of revolutionaries revolted at the same time an invasion happened, wouldn’t you be trapped? Especially due to the fact that some of us have armies bigger than your entire population.

[Glevenschester]

Well
1. There not part of the local
population.
2. We do have riots, from left-wing people, Third Positionists (who feel slavery threatens certain people’s jobs) and certain liberals, some slaves have joined in and been killed, save one who was wounded, surrendered and is on death row for murder.

3. We have a large Army and police service for a country of our size. If there was a large scale slave-revolt, army and police reserves would temporarily be called up and then go back to their regular jobs.

If a war happened and a fairly large, well-trained body of revolutionaries revolted at the same time an invasion happened, wouldn’t you be trapped? Especially due to the fact that some of us have armies bigger than your entire population.

Sale-Rabat, another slaver state is our ally, as is (or at least was i don’t know they’d react to this) Northumbria.

But you’re right we are at a disadvantage in terms of numbers.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

If a war happened and a fairly large, well-trained body of revolutionaries revolted at the same time an invasion happened, wouldn’t you be trapped? Especially due to the fact that some of us have armies bigger than your entire population.

Sale-Rabat, another slaver state is our ally, as is (or at least was i don’t know they’d react to this) Northumbria.

But you’re right we are at a disadvantage in terms of numbers.

A quick strike could effectively replace your government. What weapons do you use in your military?

[Glevenschester]

Sale-Rabat, another slaver state is our ally, as is (or at least was i don’t know they’d react to this) Northumbria.

But you’re right we are at a disadvantage in terms of numbers.

A quick strike could effectively replace your government. What weapons do you use in your military?

Well, until the slavery thing we purchased weapons from Britain and America, so British and American planes, tanks and guns.

Slave holders who pass a background check can carry guns, large numbers of the population have guns as farmers or hunters.

The government will hold general elections today.

[Islamic Holy Sites]

A quick strike could effectively replace your government. What weapons do you use in your military?

Well, until the slavery thing we purchased weapons from Britain and America, so British and American planes, tanks and guns.

Slave holders who pass a background check can carry guns, large numbers of the population have guns as farmers or hunters.

The government will hold general elections today.

That means you are going to be annihilated if an actual coalition manages to land on your shores.

[Glevenschester]

Well, until the slavery thing we purchased weapons from Britain and America, so British and American planes, tanks and guns.

Slave holders who pass a background check can carry guns, large numbers of the population have guns as farmers or hunters.

The government will hold general elections today.

That means you are going to be annihilated if an actual coalition manages to land on your shores.

We’ll see about that.

[Drakonk]

The free population is 656,660.
Of these 52.45% are women, 6,068 are
full-time military personnel and 7,250 are reserve military personnel (who mostly have other jobs). The average age is 36.

There are 25,000 slaves in the country.

You’ve got about 3% of your population into slavery. Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

Sparta had slave rates of more than 500%.

[Allanea]

1. Because you have edited your opening IC post substantially, would it be possible for your to summarize the events leading up to slavery becoming legal in Glevenchester?
2. What naval vessels does Glevencester possess?
3. What are its principal industries? Where does it get electric power?
4. Indeed is there a map?

Would it be possible for you to respond to these questions?

[Islamic Holy Sites]

You’ve got about 3% of your population into slavery. Won’t there be a revolution, a coup, or at least riots?

Sparta had slave rates of more than 500%.

There were several revolts, and besides, in the modern era you don’t need much training to shoot people. And ideas get around faster

[Drakonk]

Yep just wanted to say

[Allanea]

Slave revolts are more rare in slave societies than one would expect, unfortunately. There's a number of complex reasons for this but I don't want to divert the thread. Still waiting to response to my questions.

[Glevenschester]

Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:06 am

1. Because you have edited your opening IC post substantially, would it be possible for your to summarize the events leading up to slavery becoming legal in Glevenchester?:
Later, the main ones are:
1.A blockade by Thamesholm (where it was briefly used as a threat but then Thamesholm ceased the blockade after a day, whilst the bill was still being debated )
2.charismatic politicians supporting a crusade, them drawing attention, and the subsequent widespread disgust against,
3. Laws in Finland and
4. The hard-working lives of farmers who politicians want votes from by making their lives easier.

The law limits slavery to
1. “Purchase from government of other countries approved by the Foreign Minister” (of which there is one, Sale-Rabat) or
2. “Subject to a letter of marque and reprisal, capture of those who wilfully align themselves with regimes supporting child abuse, the persecution of Christians as such and/or sexual degeneracy of a kind that is prohibited, in our jurisdiction, by our laws”


2. What naval vessels does Glevencester possess?:
The most up to date ones sold by the USA and Britain. I can give more detail but it will take time. They can afford to buy expensive ones as our Navy is small.
3. What are its principal industries?:
Government Healthcare, education (state and private are widespread), Agriculture/agribusiness, retail, the docks and (in terms of amount of trade carried) the merchant marine.
Where does it get electric power?:
Currently mostly oil and then renewable but soon it could change due to a blockade.
4. Indeed is there a map?:
Not yet, I could make on though.
Glevenschester is in between England and the West of Thamesholm and Wallborough (which is South-East of England and North-West of France)

[Allanea]

To what extent can we use maps of RL Gloucester for reference?

It'd be ideal to know how many shipsd there are and of what types, so that we could have some kind of knowledge of what tactics to pursue?

[Allanea]

Please stop editing your first post.

Updates to IC developments should go in new posts.

Otherwise this makes it difficult for posters to figure out what happened in what order.