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Reorganized Portugal Q&A

Postby Reorganized Portugal » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:10 pm

Got questions about the nation? The lore? Ask. IC and OOC questions welcome.

More information: Reorganized Portugal (officially the Reorganized Kingdom of Portugal) is a nation that consists of the IRL territories of Portugal and Macau. Under the rule of Duarte II, the nation is a constitutional monarchy, with the King having limited power in the government. It is bordered by Spain to the east and the Atlantic Ocean to the west and south. Portugal's geography is mainly composed of hills and grass plains, with some dense forests, spanning an area of 35,603 square miles. The seventy-eight million inhabitants of the kingdom is predominantly Portuguese, with approximately 70% of all citizens living in urban areas such as the Lisbon and Porto areas.
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The Kingdom of Andour
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Postby The Kingdom of Andour » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:13 pm

Why do you have Macau? Didn't you give Macau to China?
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Postby Reorganized Portugal » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:21 pm

The Kingdom of Andour wrote:Why do you have Macau? Didn't you give Macau to China?

We refused to cede Macau to China for trade and cultural reasons. This sparked a 6 month conflict known as "The Macau War", which saw initial Chinese success, but as China wasn't expecting 3 million Portuguese troops to be defending Macau, they ended up getting pushed back and both sides agreed to a white peace. China continues to claim Macau and we hate each other's guts.
Reorganized Kingdom of Portugal
Capital: Lisbon | Religion: Roman Catholic | TLA: POR
Overview | Constitution | Embassy Program
RTP International News: Nacradian President comes out as transgender | Among Us 2 sells 20 million copies | W h y

RTP Domestic News: Crown Prince Afonso's wife Maria ill | Whales spotted in Madeira | Parliament rejects anti-smoking law
Twilight's Last Gleaming
Congressman Daniel P. Kaheo'ole (D-HI-2)

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Postby The Kingdom of Andour » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Reorganized Portugal wrote:
The Kingdom of Andour wrote:Why do you have Macau? Didn't you give Macau to China?

We refused to cede Macau to China for trade and cultural reasons. This sparked a 6 month conflict known as "The Macau War", which saw initial Chinese success, but as China wasn't expecting 3 million Portuguese troops to be defending Macau, they ended up getting pushed back and both sides agreed to a white peace. China continues to claim Macau and we hate each other's guts.

I see.
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Postby Estado Novo Portugues » Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:46 pm

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Hello! Owner of another alt-history Portugal here. What is the status of religion in your nation, and in particular the Catholic Church? How much control does it have over the government and society?

In my canon, instead of a democracy, Portugal ended up as a theocracy ruled by the Catholic Church, basically like another Papal States. In addition, due to theological and political disagreements with Rome (especially the liberalizing reforms of Vatican II), the Holy See of Lisbon became its own autonomous church, which now competes with Rome for the claim of being the true Christianity. As you'd expect then, the Catholic Church holds complete control over government policies: homosexuality, abortion, prostitution, etc. are all strictly illegal, as well as teaching of facts that contradict the Bible, such as evolution. Foreign media and the Internet are also completely banned, to prevent anybody from challenging the Church's views.

Reorganized Portugal wrote:We refused to cede Macau to China for trade and cultural reasons. This sparked a 6 month conflict known as "The Macau War", which saw initial Chinese success, but as China wasn't expecting 3 million Portuguese troops to be defending Macau, they ended up getting pushed back and both sides agreed to a white peace. China continues to claim Macau and we hate each other's guts.

Interesting! The Macau (and Hong Kong) handover never happened in this timeline either, due to Portugal refusing to recognize the legitimacy of the PRC government.
I RP as the Holy Catholic State of Portugal.
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Postby Reorganized Portugal » Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm

Estado Novo Portugues wrote:(OOC)

Hello! Owner of another alt-history Portugal here. What is the status of religion in your nation, and in particular the Catholic Church? How much control does it have over the government and society?

In my canon, instead of a democracy, Portugal ended up as a theocracy ruled by the Catholic Church, basically like another Papal States. In addition, due to theological and political disagreements with Rome (especially the liberalizing reforms of Vatican II), the Holy See of Lisbon became its own autonomous church, which now competes with Rome for the claim of being the true Christianity. As you'd expect then, the Catholic Church holds complete control over government policies: homosexuality, abortion, prostitution, etc. are all strictly illegal, as well as teaching of facts that contradict the Bible, such as evolution. Foreign media and the Internet are also completely banned, to prevent anybody from challenging the Church's views.

Reorganized Portugal wrote:We refused to cede Macau to China for trade and cultural reasons. This sparked a 6 month conflict known as "The Macau War", which saw initial Chinese success, but as China wasn't expecting 3 million Portuguese troops to be defending Macau, they ended up getting pushed back and both sides agreed to a white peace. China continues to claim Macau and we hate each other's guts.

Interesting! The Macau (and Hong Kong) handover never happened in this timeline either, due to Portugal refusing to recognize the legitimacy of the PRC government.


The Catholic Church is the state religion of Portugal, however this is only an honorary position as freedom of religion is guaranteed in our Constitution. It has a large influence on society, but only some in government. Abortion and gay marriage are illegal, although civil unions are permitted. Also, your lore is very interesting. We never separated from the Church and still loyally follow the Vatican and its reforms.

Also, Pope Francis is still Pope as of 2024.
Last edited by Reorganized Portugal on Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reorganized Kingdom of Portugal
Capital: Lisbon | Religion: Roman Catholic | TLA: POR
Overview | Constitution | Embassy Program
RTP International News: Nacradian President comes out as transgender | Among Us 2 sells 20 million copies | W h y

RTP Domestic News: Crown Prince Afonso's wife Maria ill | Whales spotted in Madeira | Parliament rejects anti-smoking law
Twilight's Last Gleaming
Congressman Daniel P. Kaheo'ole (D-HI-2)

Nation in Turmoil
Jose Antonio Rabellino
Year: 2026


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