GCN Global Senate (GCN GS Members Only)

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “No, it wouldn’t. It would actually help the massive empire that the GCN is develop itself even further to become more democratic and improve the democratic system in others like it. This is according to the negotiations that the Marajarbian and Meretican Governments had with one another about this very topic.”

“If different groups separate themselves from the others, wouldn’t that encourage separation from the alliance?”

George Collins: “Of course not. The establishment of alliance political parties would not mean separation, nor would it encourage it. If it did encourage it, separation from the GCN is going to be very hard. Possible, but very hard.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“If different groups separate themselves from the others, wouldn’t that encourage separation from the alliance?”

George Collins: “Of course not. The establishment of alliance political parties would not mean separation, nor would it encourage it. If it did encourage it, separation from the GCN is going to be very hard. Possible, but very hard.”

“What is the point of having people with similar political views together? Couldn’t they manage do that by themselves?”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “Of course not. The establishment of alliance political parties would not mean separation, nor would it encourage it. If it did encourage it, separation from the GCN is going to be very hard. Possible, but very hard.”

“What is the point of having people with similar political views together? Couldn’t they manage do that by themselves?”

George Collins: “We can’t exactly spread true democracy or improve the democratic process without making the necessary reforms, or can we?”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“What is the point of having people with similar political views together? Couldn’t they manage do that by themselves?”

George Collins: “We can’t exactly spread true democracy or improve the democratic process without making the necessary reforms, or can we?”

“The purpose of political parties is to get elected. If it is impossible for them to get elected, then there is no point of having them.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “We can’t exactly spread true democracy or improve the democratic process without making the necessary reforms, or can we?”

“The purpose of political parties is to get elected. If it is impossible for them to get elected, then there is no point of having them.”

George Collins: “That’s only one purpose, though. Another purpose is to prevent infighting. The democracy we’ve all seen in the past was almost all infighting. There was no opposition, there were no similar ideals or interests, and there was no competition. Political parties could improve that.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“The purpose of political parties is to get elected. If it is impossible for them to get elected, then there is no point of having them.”

George Collins: “That’s only one purpose, though. Another purpose is to prevent infighting. The democracy we’ve all seen in the past was almost all infighting. There was no opposition, there were no similar ideals or interests, and there was no competition. Political parties could improve that.”

“That would probably increase the tension and lead to the organisation splintering. As far as I can see, everything is going fine, even if several members are not active in the GCN.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “That’s only one purpose, though. Another purpose is to prevent infighting. The democracy we’ve all seen in the past was almost all infighting. There was no opposition, there were no similar ideals or interests, and there was no competition. Political parties could improve that.”

“That would probably increase the tension and lead to the organisation splintering. As far as I can see, everything is going fine, even if several members are not active in the GCN.”

George Collins: “Ah, but it would not. I’m more than certain that many might have conflicting interests within the GCN already, and to be fair, competition would be the best possible way to enforce that. It would also be more democratic as well. The democratic process as we know it needs to improve to work better, as without it, many countries will not have much to survive. Without a two wing system made up of many national political parties to form a massive international one, the world could develop further.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“That would probably increase the tension and lead to the organisation splintering. As far as I can see, everything is going fine, even if several members are not active in the GCN.”

George Collins: “Ah, but it would not. I’m more than certain that many might have conflicting interests within the GCN already, and to be fair, competition would be the best possible way to enforce that. It would also be more democratic as well. The democratic process as we know it needs to improve to work better, as without it, many countries will not have much to survive. Without a two wing system made up of many national political parties to form a massive international one, the world could develop further.”

“That is assuming every single person in the world has their country’s best interests at heart. Any corrupt leader would be able to encourage resentment and de facto split from the GCN.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “Ah, but it would not. I’m more than certain that many might have conflicting interests within the GCN already, and to be fair, competition would be the best possible way to enforce that. It would also be more democratic as well. The democratic process as we know it needs to improve to work better, as without it, many countries will not have much to survive. Without a two wing system made up of many national political parties to form a massive international one, the world could develop further.”

“That is assuming every single person in the world has their country’s best interests at heart. Any corrupt leader would be able to encourage resentment and de facto split from the GCN.”

George Collins: “Ah, but I wasn’t referring to individual countries. I was referring to developing political parties so that democracy can be more improved. Think about it, more than half of all the democratic alliances that we’ve encountered over the years were all dedicated to spreading and improving democracy. ICDN was the only alliance that ever got close to actually improving the democratic process, and now that ICDN is part of the GCN (as well as one of the few big alliances that actually increased the power and influence of the GCN), and now that the GCN is fully set up and capable of making its goals come to fruition, it is up to us to finish what ICDN started, and ensure that democracy can improve. It is also with this that I believe alliance political parties could set a much needed example for any and all alliances out there.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“That is assuming every single person in the world has their country’s best interests at heart. Any corrupt leader would be able to encourage resentment and de facto split from the GCN.”

George Collins: “Ah, but I wasn’t referring to individual countries. I was referring to developing political parties so that democracy can be more improved. Think about it, more than half of all the democratic alliances that we’ve encountered over the years were all dedicated to spreading and improving democracy. ICDN was the only alliance that ever got close to actually improving the democratic process, and now that ICDN is part of the GCN (as well as one of the few big alliances that actually increased the power and influence of the GCN), and now that the GCN is fully set up and capable of making its goals come to fruition, it is up to us to finish what ICDN started, and ensure that democracy can improve. It is also with this that I believe alliance political parties could set a much needed example for any and all alliances out there.”

“I still do not see how it could do anything except divide the alliance.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “Ah, but I wasn’t referring to individual countries. I was referring to developing political parties so that democracy can be more improved. Think about it, more than half of all the democratic alliances that we’ve encountered over the years were all dedicated to spreading and improving democracy. ICDN was the only alliance that ever got close to actually improving the democratic process, and now that ICDN is part of the GCN (as well as one of the few big alliances that actually increased the power and influence of the GCN), and now that the GCN is fully set up and capable of making its goals come to fruition, it is up to us to finish what ICDN started, and ensure that democracy can improve. It is also with this that I believe alliance political parties could set a much needed example for any and all alliances out there.”

“I still do not see how it could do anything except divide the alliance.”

George Collins: “It could help improve democracy, and help set an example and lay the foundations for any future alliance that has GCN heritage.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“I still do not see how it could do anything except divide the alliance.”

George Collins: “It could help improve democracy, and help set an example and lay the foundations for any future alliance that has GCN heritage.”

“How would it ‘improve democracy’? What would it change?”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “It could help improve democracy, and help set an example and lay the foundations for any future alliance that has GCN heritage.”

“How would it ‘improve democracy’? What would it change?”

George Collins: “It would improve democracy by allowing and facilitating opposing ideals to clash, allowing for a prevention of infighting while also allowing friendly debate to take place. It’s things like that which have never been focused on by any democratic alliance any of us have ever encountered in the past.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“How would it ‘improve democracy’? What would it change?”

George Collins: “It would improve democracy by allowing and facilitating opposing ideals to clash, allowing for a prevention of infighting while also allowing friendly debate to take place. It’s things like that which have never been focused on by any democratic alliance any of us have ever encountered in the past.”

“We believe factions like this should either have a lot of power or nearly none. A very weak part would group up these nations and facilitate contact but wouldn’t allow them to revolt.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “It would improve democracy by allowing and facilitating opposing ideals to clash, allowing for a prevention of infighting while also allowing friendly debate to take place. It’s things like that which have never been focused on by any democratic alliance any of us have ever encountered in the past.”

“We believe factions like this should either have a lot of power or nearly none. A very weak part would group up these nations and facilitate contact but wouldn’t allow them to revolt.”

George Collins: “I would give the political parties at least some power if I could, and at least in the World Parliament or Global Senate.”

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“We believe factions like this should either have a lot of power or nearly none. A very weak part would group up these nations and facilitate contact but wouldn’t allow them to revolt.”

George Collins: “I would give the political parties at least some power if I could, and at least in the World Parliament or Global Senate.”

“Perhaps easier access, trade and spreading ideas to each other, but I would advise against that. The furthest I would go is to give them a separate chamber, where if they decide for/against a legislation, which would give them at the highest extreme three extra votes.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “I would give the political parties at least some power if I could, and at least in the World Parliament or Global Senate.”

“Perhaps easier access, trade and spreading ideas to each other, but I would advise against that. The furthest I would go is to give them a separate chamber, where if they decide for/against a legislation, which would give them at the highest extreme three extra votes.”

George Collins: “No, the main purpose of the political parties would be to set an example for other alliances and compete with one another for political power. A separate chamber is considerable, but too far. The political parties should be limited to elections only, in my opinions, with differing ideals and opinions on economic, political, or military issues and how GCN will play a role in that.”

[Arvaronia]

Telegram from the Arvaronian foreign minister: Hello everyone, this country that I represent would like to join this alliance. How do I join and what are the terms? Arvaronia is a country with incredible civil rights and freedom, there is no prison, just community service. There are also main battle tanks that are roaming Arvaronia's forest in search of axolotls as through the peculiar law of "inflicting as little pain as possible on animals, instead, hunters must use "insta-kill methods". So don't put any of your diplomats in the forests unless you want to quickly dispose of them.

Best regards, Arvaronian foreign minister.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Telegram from the Arvaronian foreign minister: Hello everyone, this country that I represent would like to join this alliance. How do I join and what are the terms? Arvaronia is a country with incredible civil rights and freedom, there is no prison, just community service. There are also main battle tanks that are roaming Arvaronia's forest in search of axolotls as through the peculiar law of "inflicting as little pain as possible on animals, instead, hunters must use "insta-kill methods". So don't put any of your diplomats in the forests unless you want to quickly dispose of them.

Best regards, Arvaronian foreign minister.

OOC: This is not the thread for this, but since you asked, here you go: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=514297

[Islamic Holy Sites]

“Perhaps easier access, trade and spreading ideas to each other, but I would advise against that. The furthest I would go is to give them a separate chamber, where if they decide for/against a legislation, which would give them at the highest extreme three extra votes.”

George Collins: “No, the main purpose of the political parties would be to set an example for other alliances and compete with one another for political power. A separate chamber is considerable, but too far. The political parties should be limited to elections only, in my opinions, with differing ideals and opinions on economic, political, or military issues and how GCN will play a role in that.”

“So, different factions who give their opinion?”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “No, the main purpose of the political parties would be to set an example for other alliances and compete with one another for political power. A separate chamber is considerable, but too far. The political parties should be limited to elections only, in my opinions, with differing ideals and opinions on economic, political, or military issues and how GCN will play a role in that.”

“So, different factions who give their opinion?”

George Collins: “Different factions that not only give their opinion and compete through each party of each wing having different strategic interests, but also align with and participate in, say, Senatorial elections.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: “So, other than everything else that has been discussed and heavily debated, such as the alliance political parties, what else should be added onto the new constitution?”

[South Olpen]

George Collins: “So, other than everything else that has been discussed and heavily debated, such as the alliance political parties, what else should be added onto the new constitution?”

Mack Dufour (Zonks replacement, he's at the conference)"I suppose we could add the 30th Amendment Global Sen. Zonks proposed."

[Southeast Marajarbia]

George Collins: "Everyone, it is time to discuss the ongoing situation in ZN! For a long time now, the monarchs of ZN have converted from mere monarchs to pure fascists, and they've proven to be an extremely serious threat. We must contain them, and decide on a plan of action. Does anybody have any ideas?"

[Islamic Holy Sites]

George Collins: "Everyone, it is time to discuss the ongoing situation in ZN! For a long time now, the monarchs of ZN have converted from mere monarchs to pure fascists, and they've proven to be an extremely serious threat. We must contain them, and decide on a plan of action. Does anybody have any ideas?"

“Negotiation? Economic sanctions?”