WorldVision Song Contest 96 | OOC | SIGNUPS CLOSED

[Teesdexxia]

May attempt, time permitting, signing up.

Even more determinant, but also signing up just in case lol

[Ertzei Kishim]

Question for Committee Candidates - WV100

Hi all! Despite there being no official Q&A session this time, I did want to ask my own question. Feel free to answer or not, however the answers I do receive will influence how I or maybe other will vote. ANYWAY.

This upcoming committee will oversee the centennial edition of the WorldVision Song Contest, how fun! This will also coincide with a special edition either before or after the contest. What I would like to know is, how do you intend to make this normal edition, and special edition, special? What are your ideas for the special edition, and how can we commemorate the 99 editions that have come before?

Thanks!
Kish

[Malta Comino Gozo]

Question for Committee Candidates - WV100

Hi all! Despite there being no official Q&A session this time, I did want to ask my own question. Feel free to answer or not, however the answers I do receive will influence how I or maybe other will vote. ANYWAY.

This upcoming committee will oversee the centennial edition of the WorldVision Song Contest, how fun! This will also coincide with a special edition either before or after the contest. What I would like to know is, how do you intend to make this normal edition, and special edition, special? What are your ideas for the special edition, and how can we commemorate the 99 editions that have come before?

Thanks!
Kish

For Worldvision 100 I would like to see many nations that have withdrawn return. I have already been contacting past players telling them about WV100 and many have said they would like to return even if it is just for that edition. As for hosting, I would like to see the contest shared out by multiple nations, eg the WMCA alliance all hosting 4 aspects of the show to make it "intercontinental". As for the special edition, we could all send our best past entry and throw it into an ultimate battle to see whose song comes out top a bit like ESC250 but WVX for the number of nations competing.

[Elejamie]

Question for Committee Candidates - WV100

Hi all! Despite there being no official Q&A session this time, I did want to ask my own question. Feel free to answer or not, however the answers I do receive will influence how I or maybe other will vote. ANYWAY.

This upcoming committee will oversee the centennial edition of the WorldVision Song Contest, how fun! This will also coincide with a special edition either before or after the contest. What I would like to know is, how do you intend to make this normal edition, and special edition, special? What are your ideas for the special edition, and how can we commemorate the 99 editions that have come before?

Thanks!
Kish

Hm, shame we didn't get an official Q&A thing but oh well. I'd be more than happy to answer this.

Anyway, it's basically the same idea I shared on the server and in a DM with you a while back but I'll share it again here. Basically, it's another "best of" like we did in WVs 40 and 50 but with a slight twist. Basically, everyone chooses anywhere between 3-5 of their best entries (not in terms of placing but rather on their own personal opinion; there might've been a song that did well but they hated working on and vice versa) and they basically get put into qualifying heats and, using the same way we do televotes, simply rate each song out of 10 (giving a 0 to our own entries and up to 6 if we have any puppets) until we get a certain amount of qualifiers. And so on for each heat until we get either 20-30 entrants, at which point we get the IC up and treat it like any other contest. We'll even separate the winners of those heats into new heats if needs be.

Ideally I'd rather each winner automatically gets selected to take part in this because, well, if they're good enough to win the contest they're good enough to take part in a "best WorldVision entry ever" competition. However, I can think of a couple of issues with this logic. The first is the obvious in that there are a few people who probably aren't comfortable with taking part in this, and indeed one of these people has actually won and has said they're not comfy with it, so I don't know if forcing them to take part would be fair. The second is that there have been people who have won plenty of times, hell we've even got someone who has won this contest more times than Ireland won the real life Eurovision Song Contest, so having their winners as well as some other entires of their own choosing might be a bit too much. There are some winners who aren't around anymore but since the WV Committee can post their entries should any of them actually make it to the big contest itself that shouldn't be an issue.

The actual WV100 itself would probably be left up to the host to do however they want, whether it be an opening or interval act commemorating one hundred contests, a normal contest, or whatever Placely will end up doing.

[StrayaRoos]

Question for Applicants Regarding Contest format

So just asking for your stance regarding Semifinals and Relegation like Eurovision in the 90’s (even though I would probably be relegated every time)

[Todlichebujoku]

Question for Committee Candidates - WV100

Hi all! Despite there being no official Q&A session this time, I did want to ask my own question. Feel free to answer or not, however the answers I do receive will influence how I or maybe other will vote. ANYWAY.

This upcoming committee will oversee the centennial edition of the WorldVision Song Contest, how fun! This will also coincide with a special edition either before or after the contest. What I would like to know is, how do you intend to make this normal edition, and special edition, special? What are your ideas for the special edition, and how can we commemorate the 99 editions that have come before?

Thanks!
Kish

1. The special edition: We already have implemented a public voting system for deciding special editions, so I'd like to use that as a vehicle for players to voice their own ideas and vote on which they like best. That said, a thought I have is perhaps to have a 2-section contest; one half where the winners duke it out (maybe 1 or 2 winning entries per person, depending on how many participants), and another for non-winning players - "Most Robbed Entry" perhaps. Of course, in the end, I expect to have the community involved in the final selection.

2. The normal edition: I think this should be up to the host. I'm very much in favor of giving the host plenty of room to breathe and make creative decisions, and I expect to see some great ideas for commemorating the past 99 editions. It would be great to see interviews of HoDs (basically, interviews of the players themselves) and their perspectives on their experiences, at least. Perhaps some old winners as interval acts that will happen to also lead up to the special edition!

Question for Applicants Regarding Contest format

So just asking for your stance regarding Semifinals and Relegation like Eurovision in the 90’s (even though I would probably be relegated every time)

Semifinals have been discussed pretty often in the past year or two - the World Hit Festival has a well-established system with a draft thread that allows the host to see the total number of participants and rearrange them into semis in a final contest thread. I'd rather not have WorldVision copy that system entirely, but none of the other methods of breaking up a continuous stream of posts into 2 separate semis are very nice or immersive. My compromise concept has been to have WV go on as usual until a certain number of eligible entries is reached (probably either 40 or a multi-tiered approach), and once that happens, the original contest thread becomes a draft thread, and the host re-posts everything into semis in a new Semi-Finals thread. Kish (Ertzei Kishim) did propose to trial a semi-final system in his WV89 host bid, but the system was a different one and did not prove to be the most popular among host bid voters. All in all, I'm open to the idea but more discussion will need to take place as WV in its current form is not very amenable to the semi format.

Relegation.. as entertaining as it might be for joke entries to be shut out from participating, plenty of debutants and recent debutants also place low and would be caught in that net, which would be an incredibly disheartening experience - not only doing badly but also getting DSQ from the next contest. However, most notably, WV participation numbers fluctuate a lot, and relegation really only makes sense when you're dealing with a consistently high number of participants.

Thanks to both of you for asking!

[Elejamie]

Question for Applicants Regarding Contest format

So just asking for your stance regarding Semifinals and Relegation like Eurovision in the 90’s (even though I would probably be relegated every time)

My stance on semi-finals hasn't really changed much from the last couple of times I ran for the Committee, as the spoiler below will show, and I doubt it'll change now. Basically, I don't mind the idea of a semi-final as a one-off or an occasional thing but I have no real vision for it being a permanent addition unlike the televote and the whole thing comes with a few caveats, namely a) it has to be something to be discussed and voted on HERE ON THE FORUMS (for the simple reason that there are people who can't get on the Discord server or won't join it for one reason or another and it'd be unfair if they can't have a chance to chip in with their thoughts, especially since this is a forum-based competition) and b) it's more the sort of thing that should be introduced the edition after it's announced just to give everyone taking part time to prepare and the Committee time to work out how it's to be done. If it does end up happening, the host nation should automatically qualify for the final along with the Committee, sort of like the Big Five in the real-life Eurovision. Their main nations, the ones that are actually on the Committee, so no loophole to sneak Placely Placington into the final.

That being said I do have my doubts on whether or not it'll actually work, with the biggest issue being how unlike the World Hit Festival the WorldVision's a lot more informal; unlike the WHF with its entry draft thread and how everyone sends their points to the host, the people taking part in WorldVision actually post their own entries and votes into the IC thread, no middleman whatsoever. Which means that, not only will everyone who signs up not actually post an entry, but also there's no doubt going to be a problem if someone starts a post but ends up not finishing it before the deadline or withdraws. And that's not mentioning people getting disqualified because they didn't vote in time, as is sadly common. So if we do end up getting a semi-final, there has to be a way around this just to keep the ball rolling.

Fun? Yes. Viable? Probably not. HOWEVER, I won't be against a trial run just to see if it'll be a welcome addition or a horrible disaster. If we do decide to introduce them then a) I propose a discussion and a vote AGAIN ON THE FORUMS and b) if it does pass then we introduce it for the following contest (i.e. if we vote in favour of a semi-final during the WV87 cycle then we'll get it set up for WV88), just so we've got enough time to work out the kinks and figure out how it should be done before we actually do it.

I'm not entirely against the idea of a semi-finals to solve that issue. I'd rather it be something discussed on the forums as well as Discord, simply because again not everyone is able to or wants to join us over there, but if the general consensus seems to be that it'd be a good idea then I'd say we should go for it. That being said, I'd recommend having them if there's at least 40-something COMPLETED entries (as in entries where the person hasn't withdrawn or left it WIP but rather put in some actual lyrics and maybe information about it), simply because even if you're lucky enough to have a puppet to vote for more people there's still going to be some songs that you liked that won't receive your votes. Furthermore, the host and the five Committee members should receive automatic byes to the final, much like the host and the Big Five in the real life Eurovision. I won't recommend it to be a permanent thing though, especially if we get a competition with so few people in it that it's not worth it, but as a recurring temporary measure I don't see what the harm would be.

Relegation, on the other hand, I'm firmly against. It's not really fair for people to sit out simply because they placed low enough in the last one or didn't get enough points in some arbitrary ranking system and, in all honesty, there's no real need to have it here because again we're not really a super formal contest. On a side note the EBU should've started having the semi-finals as we know them today all the way back in 1996 because Planet of Blue deserved to go to Oslo even if it wouldn't have made it out, but this is just a side-rant.

[Malta Comino Gozo]

Question for Applicants Regarding Contest format

So just asking for your stance regarding Semifinals and Relegation like Eurovision in the 90’s (even though I would probably be relegated every time)

To be honest as much as it would be amazing to shape this contest a bit more and make it even more realistic I think it would be extremely disheartening if a country sent, a good song and narrowly missed out on the final and ended up missing out alongside genuine joke entries, especially if said county had put a lot of hard work into their entry. For now, I don't see how it would work unfortunately.

[Scotatrova]

Question for Committee Candidates - WV100

Hi all! Despite there being no official Q&A session this time, I did want to ask my own question. Feel free to answer or not, however the answers I do receive will influence how I or maybe other will vote. ANYWAY.

This upcoming committee will oversee the centennial edition of the WorldVision Song Contest, how fun! This will also coincide with a special edition either before or after the contest. What I would like to know is, how do you intend to make this normal edition, and special edition, special? What are your ideas for the special edition, and how can we commemorate the 99 editions that have come before?

Thanks!
Kish

One idea for a special edition could perhaps be an edition in which everyone sends entries that did poorly in the past. This would be done mainly through resending the tune and just reworking it, instead of just a copy and paste. That way those entries get a chance to redeem themselves as they could've participated in an edition that was either against its favor or was just "robbed" of a better placing. As for the regular 100th edition, at the end of the day it should be up to the host to decide what they want to do with it. Perhaps it would be interesting to see the host include little nods to past editions in their hosting either through the inclusion of past winners or remembering certain hostings.

Question for Applicants Regarding Contest format

So just asking for your stance regarding Semifinals and Relegation like Eurovision in the 90’s (even though I would probably be relegated every time)

I think Semifinals would be an interesting addition to WorldVision. However, in the end I dont think that it would work out. The number of participants in each edition always tends to fluctuate, so semifinals wouldn't really make too much sense unless a good amount of people were participating every edition. As for the idea of relegation, I dont think it would be a good idea. Going back to my previous point on semifinals, there just aren't enough participants to warrant relegation, and even then there are people who will occasionally miss an edition or two already, so relegating active participants isn't a good idea.

[Saviera]

Saviera returns. Kalosia is our master.

[WorldVision Committee]

IT'S OVER!

Stop voting, stop ranking. Because it's time to reveal who'll be the new Committee members but also who'll be the host for the 96th WorldVision Song Contest. Ten nations voted on the former and seven for the latter (six voted on both if anyone's curious) but who'll be the lucky five and the lucky host? Let's start with the Committee.

1) Malta Comino Gozo (average ranking of 2.33)
2) Polkopia (average ranking of 2.7)
3) Elejamie (average ranking of 3.11)
4) Antahbrantahstan (average ranking of 3.3)
5) Todlichebujoku (average ranking of 4.3)
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6) Scotatrova (average ranking of 4.5)

A huge congratulations to our lucky five and commiserations to our unlucky one who missed out. Hey, don't beat yourself about it, you had a good manifesto and there's always next time. Awkward segue into the host bid now and...

Circunses, StrayaRoos with 60 points!

Valletta, Malta Comino Gozo with 84 points!

A hearty congratulations to our host, a solemn commisserations to our runner-up. Again, it wasn't a bad bid but it seemed to have been overshadowed by a stronger bid. Thank you for everyone who voted and ranked and, as we prepare for the new Committee, we'll hand everything off to our host who's ready to open up the IC and provide any and all important information when they're able to. Best of luck, everyone.

- EJM

[Malta Comino Gozo]

The WV 96 IC thread is out now! viewtopic.php?f=4&t=514535 Soft deadline for entries hard deadline for voting. Also please can everyone send me their 3 letter trigrams and music genre associated with their nations. E.g if you're a Middle Eastern nation you'd perhaps have Arabian music etc etc

[Malta Comino Gozo]

Heres some useful info about MCG if you need it! https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=38959125&sid=5ae7cfd70e0feebc7e1a1e9d335f6fce#p38959125

[Scotatrova]

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Artist	Jury Votes	Televote	Total
Leila Teas	43	38	81
Malecina Valero	41	37	78
Cathrina Elena	38	28	66
Carle Tenoro	26	24	50
Rafael Lun	25	17	42
Aria Sosa, Estrela Cronu	25	12	37
Kenstas Kaivaano	21	11	32
Vixente Soto	15	0	15

Voting has finally commenced for the first semi-final of Ereide eu le Cançe Scotatrofina 2022 and here are the total points for the eight acts. Congratulations to Leila Teas, Malecina Verlo and Cathrina Elena! The states of Lezama, Norva and Salece qualify to the final of Ereide eu le Cançe Scotatrofina 2022.

[Malta Comino Gozo]

There is now one week left to get your entries in for Worldvision 96. The soft deadline will be 02:00 am GMT 25th Jan which gives you all an extra 6 hours soft deadline.

[Hanvaria]

Withdrawn from contest, put an investigation into artist to make it seem more realistic\

OOC reason: Lost interest in contest
IC reason: Artist had invalid documents and is awaiting trial

[Polkopia]

Withdrawn from contest, put an investigation into artist to make it seem more realistic\

OOC reason: Lost interest in contest
IC reason: Artist had invalid documents and is awaiting trial

#JusticeForLawrence

[Malta Comino Gozo]

Just a reminder that there is soft deadline to get your entries in for WV#96. The soft deadline will be 02:00 am GMT 25th Jan. The voting however will be a hard deadline. Worldvision IC

[Hafamarimyht]

Got Hafamarimët's entry up but I'm not going to be able to finish Dacharia because I love to over commit myself lmao

[Malta Comino Gozo]

If anyone would like a customised voting template for their votes DM me your spokesperson's picture and what you want in the background (city etc) and that cities IC name and I'll make you one. I want this to look just like ESC!

Obviously, you fill out the votes on it though unless you want me to and you post it along with some of your RP.

[WorldVision Committee]

Televote Form

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Hello everyone! As voting is open, here is the televote form:

Televote Form

Happy voting! Please remember voting is a hard deadline, Monday 31st January 20:00 GMT

-Tobu

[WorldVision Committee]

COMMITTEE UPDATE:

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On 25 January, the Worldvision Committee met to discuss possible rule violations from Ikslund's, Strayaroos', and StrayaRoos Barrier Islands' entries. The following determinations were made, following a Committee vote:

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Ikslund's entry has been disqualified for failing to provide a complete set of lyrics.
For DSQ 5 (Todlichebujoku, Polkopia, Elejamie, Antahbrantahstan, Malta Comino Gozo) - Against DSQ 0

Strayaroos' entry has not been disqualified, as it was considered to be a valid entry by the Worldvision Committee
For DSQ 2 (Todlichebujoku, Polkopia) - Against DSQ 3 (Malta Comino Gozo, Antahbrantahstan, Elejamie)

Strayaroos Barrier Islands' entry has not been disqualified, as it was considered to be a valid entry by the Worldvision Committee
For DSQ 2 (Polkopia, Antahbrantahstan) - Against DSQ 2 (Malta Comino Gozo, Elejamie) *Todlichebujoku abstains

[Britonisea]

Heya, I'm not sure if the WVC has done some chatting behind the scenes, but I suggested a couple of things on the Discord chat and seemed to have some support so I'm just gonna post it here as well just to make sure it didn't get lost.

1. I think that we should revert back to reminding people an edition before that the committee elections are happening the next edition. I also think that the reminders should be at the top of the OP instead of pushed right because, in all honesty, people won't read it.

I was told that it was supposed to be there, but just making sure that this a rule since it hasn't been on the OP for the past two cycles at least.

2. I don't think that the rule saying that you have to participate in the edition before the election is actually fair. I feel like someone who has participated a load of times in the past and missed out say 95 for personal reasons for example is more qualified than someone who debuted in 95 and gets the opportunity to participate in the elections an edition later. I'm not sure who put that rule in, but it limits the number of those who can put in a manifesto. I feel like if it was 2 participations over the past 5 editions or...something else (like more than 5 completed editions etc)..that would be fairer.

There were also other suggestions to make it 3 participants over the past WV cycle etc + a minimum number of participants overall. I understand that to be in the WVC it's essential that you're a current user so recent participation is a good idea, it's just that there's so much pressure to participate in the edition before and sometimes other circumstances can just get in the way.

Anywho good luck to everyone for the 2nd half of the voting!

[Aenglide]

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ÆTV is excited to announce...

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The songs for Ænglidsféstival 97 have been released!
ÆTV has been called to start a national final for Aenglide, where International Juries and the International Public Televotes are called to make their vote, which will select the Aenglish entry for Worldvision. The first Ænglidsféstival will begin for Worldvision 97, and we have six entries that have been released. More info, including the tune and voting times and information will be released prior to Worldvision 97, so be sure to stay tuned!

The songs, in the running order are:

01 | Len Rockies - Jé sýið
02 | Mittelgrad - People United
03 | The Mercantiles - Benevolent Frequencies
04 | Nora Mebéyja - Emotions That She Doesn’t Feel
05 | Kevin Jannssen & Eva Kújlora - Kun élsk es de þoíð’ált övke ále
06 | Alfja - We Can Go

[WorldVision Committee]

Televote Sheet

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What a result! With that, here is the full televote sheet. Strayaroos Barrier Islands's televote was considered suspect and removed:

Click here

EDIT: And have the sign-ups for WV97 as well. - EJM