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Galimencia
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Postby Galimencia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:55 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Romextly wrote:Please explain that.

Basically, if a teacher gives you detention because you broke a window, you don't slap the teacher in the face because you'll get a bigger punishment. Human rights violating nation= bad student teacher= IDSF

And no Laciena

So it means that IDSF considers itself a 'teacher' and all the non allied countries as 'rowdy students'. You guys believe that you may go about bombing nations just because you 'feel' that they are conducting human rights abuses, ain't it? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:57 am

Galimencia wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Basically, if a teacher gives you detention because you broke a window, you don't slap the teacher in the face because you'll get a bigger punishment. Human rights violating nation= bad student teacher= IDSF

And no Laciena

So it means that IDSF considers itself a 'teacher' and all the non allied countries as 'rowdy students'. You guys believe that you may go about bombing nations just because you 'feel' that they are conducting human right abuses, ain't it? Correct me if I am wrong.

Non-allied nations= wrong
Also, when we have evidence that they are doing humans rights abuses AND they threaten us and/or an ally, then it's war.
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:57 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Galimencia wrote:So it means that IDSF considers itself a 'teacher' and all the non allied countries as 'rowdy students'. You guys believe that you may go about bombing nations just because you 'feel' that they are conducting human right abuses, ain't it? Correct me if I am wrong.

Non-allied nations= wrong
Also, when we have evidence that they are doing humans rights abuses AND they threaten us and/or an ally, then it's war.


Exactly.
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Earth Allies
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Postby Earth Allies » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:08 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Non-allied nations= wrong
Also, when we have evidence that they are doing humans rights abuses AND they threaten us and/or an ally, then it's war.


Exactly.

You don´t expect that if a whole alliance bigger then you guys will declare war on you guys?
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:12 am

Earth Allies wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Exactly.

You don´t expect that if a whole alliance bigger then you guys will declare war on you guys?


They might, but we will be prepared. However, if this alliance you speak of is the CUSP, you will not be attacked.
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:13 am

Earth Allies wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Exactly.

You don´t expect that if a whole alliance bigger then you guys will declare war on you guys?

We won't attack or annoy them unless they attack or annoy us.
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:19 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:You don´t expect that if a whole alliance bigger then you guys will declare war on you guys?

We won't attack or annoy them unless they attack or annoy us.


And the CUSP has been rather annoying lately.
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Earth Allies
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Postby Earth Allies » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:20 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:We won't attack or annoy them unless they attack or annoy us.


And the CUSP has been rather annoying lately.

Not really.....ICDN has been doing other things...WDA is starting to feel like it needs to be in the whole thing.....
World Health Organization
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:22 am

Earth Allies wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
And the CUSP has been rather annoying lately.

Not really.....ICDN has been doing other things...WDA is starting to feel like it needs to be in the whole thing.....

CUSP has been annoying, the ICDN is different. As is the WDA.
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Call me Muqaddasia.
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BREAKING NEWS: Galapagos war 4 might be coming | “Aursi among best Muqaddasi allies,”, says government official | Muqaddasi weapon industry expanding WIP

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Earth Allies
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Postby Earth Allies » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:24 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:Not really.....ICDN has been doing other things...WDA is starting to feel like it needs to be in the whole thing.....

CUSP has been annoying, the ICDN is different. As is the WDA.

CUSP really has the big boys......ICDN has most of the small and big ones.....WDA has mostly small boys...(Should do virus time? :)
World Health Organization
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Earth-1: HRM is head of Starfleet
Earth-NS: NS Forum, HRM is President of Earth Allies

Chads Bizarre Adventure wrote:You always make the best RPs 8)

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Founded: Mar 21, 2021
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:25 am

Earth Allies wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
And the CUSP has been rather annoying lately.

Not really.....ICDN has been doing other things...WDA is starting to feel like it needs to be in the whole thing.....


The CUSP is currently at the center of our attention, because prior to their vote on their condemnation of us, they sent repeated annoying telegrams to me, and intervened in Hun Chu.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:26 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:Not really.....ICDN has been doing other things...WDA is starting to feel like it needs to be in the whole thing.....


The CUSP is currently at the center of our attention, because prior to their vote on their condemnation of us, they sent repeated annoying telegrams to me, and intervened in Hun Chu.

Really? Please send what was contained in them to me please
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Earth Allies
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Postby Earth Allies » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:28 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:Not really.....ICDN has been doing other things...WDA is starting to feel like it needs to be in the whole thing.....


The CUSP is currently at the center of our attention, because prior to their vote on their condemnation of us, they sent repeated annoying telegrams to me, and intervened in Hun Chu.

WDA also is there looking at this hmm...in CUSP words mess, in ICDN words...IDK, in WDA words...here com-
World Health Organization
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Chads Bizarre Adventure wrote:You always make the best RPs 8)

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:28 am

Earth Allies wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:CUSP has been annoying, the ICDN is different. As is the WDA.

CUSP really has the big boys......ICDN has most of the small and big ones.....WDA has mostly small boys...(Should do virus time? :)

Virus? Also I am part of the WDA so we can't declare war on it. :)
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FREE PALESTINE
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BREAKING NEWS: Galapagos war 4 might be coming | “Aursi among best Muqaddasi allies,”, says government official | Muqaddasi weapon industry expanding WIP

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Earth Allies
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Postby Earth Allies » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:44 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Earth Allies wrote:CUSP really has the big boys......ICDN has most of the small and big ones.....WDA has mostly small boys...(Should do virus time? :)

Virus? Also I am part of the WDA so we can't declare war on it. :)

No no...Virus in both Han Chus
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Earth-1: HRM is head of Starfleet
Earth-NS: NS Forum, HRM is President of Earth Allies

Chads Bizarre Adventure wrote:You always make the best RPs 8)

To boldly..[Insert something here]

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Reuteria
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Founded: Apr 12, 2021
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Postby Reuteria » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:50 am

Lacienia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:If you resist our sanctions, you earn yourself a Military conflict.

Would the CUSP defense fleet under Operation Breaking cover belong there?

I feel like the IDSF is deliberately avoiding this question, which boils down to do you think that CUSP is bad?

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:58 am

Reuteria wrote:
Lacienia wrote:Would the CUSP defense fleet under Operation Breaking cover belong there?

I feel like the IDSF is deliberately avoiding this question, which boils down to do you think that CUSP is bad?

We don't think that. It's just that they hate our guts for some reason.
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BREAKING NEWS: Galapagos war 4 might be coming | “Aursi among best Muqaddasi allies,”, says government official | Muqaddasi weapon industry expanding WIP

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:58 am

Reuteria wrote:
Lacienia wrote:Would the CUSP defense fleet under Operation Breaking cover belong there?

I feel like the IDSF is deliberately avoiding this question, which boils down to do you think that CUSP is bad?


IHS answered the question already.
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Postby Romextly » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:08 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Romextly wrote:Please explain that.


If you threaten an IDSF blockade, or initiate in trade that benefits your economy while sanctions are in place, that = war

So if we send trade through and upset an illegal action because we have a free market than the whole nation has to pay the price? What type of logic is that?

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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:09 am

Romextly wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
If you threaten an IDSF blockade, or initiate in trade that benefits your economy while sanctions are in place, that = war

So if we send trade through and upset an illegal action because we have a free market than the whole nation has to pay the price? What type of logic is that?

Please read my explanation, SM's isn't actually explaining anything and we need to talk about it.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:10 am

Romextly wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
If you threaten an IDSF blockade, or initiate in trade that benefits your economy while sanctions are in place, that = war

So if we send trade through and upset an illegal action because we have a free market than the whole nation has to pay the price? What type of logic is that?


Sanctions are not illegal. Avoiding them is. Learn the difference
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Postby Romextly » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:14 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Romextly wrote:So if we send trade through and upset an illegal action because we have a free market than the whole nation has to pay the price? What type of logic is that?


Sanctions are not illegal. Avoiding them is. Learn the difference

Forgive me. I read the last part to initiatw in trade and instead of sanctions I sawnblockade. However if IDSF sanction Hfjdjd. And companies in romextly trade with them and it benefits my economy will I havw a war on my hands?

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:16 am

Romextly wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Sanctions are not illegal. Avoiding them is. Learn the difference

Forgive me. I read the last part to initiatw in trade and instead of sanctions I sawnblockade. However if IDSF sanction Hfjdjd. And companies in romextly trade with them and it benefits my economy will I havw a war on my hands?


If it counts as you resisting sanctions, then possibly. It all relies on a democratic vote.
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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:19 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Romextly wrote:Forgive me. I read the last part to initiatw in trade and instead of sanctions I sawnblockade. However if IDSF sanction Hfjdjd. And companies in romextly trade with them and it benefits my economy will I havw a war on my hands?


If it counts as you resisting sanctions, then possibly. It all relies on a democratic vote.

Probably not, Romextly, and I would veto it.
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BREAKING NEWS: Galapagos war 4 might be coming | “Aursi among best Muqaddasi allies,”, says government official | Muqaddasi weapon industry expanding WIP

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Old Tanokiana
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Old Tanokiana » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:20 am

I'm sure this whole feud between the IDSF and the CUSP is just a misunderstanding. Should the CUSP be inclined to invite you to negotiations on how to avoid such things again, would you be willing to cooperate?
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