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Folaisia
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Founded: Oct 17, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Folaisia » Fri May 21, 2021 9:26 pm

Lindsey MacDougall Grangemouth, Dalmashiel, Folaisia
I would like to have the ability to abstain from sleep. OS project is getting on my fucking nerves.


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The Scottish kingdom in North America.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Posts: 27968
Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri May 21, 2021 9:45 pm

Oberst i.G. Sieglinde Reinecke-Callenberg Vienna, Ostmark

@Kimiya Shaheen
I like how the guy from Bolriegstan pretends that their average wage matches up with the GDP/pc of tiny tax haven principalities like Monaco, Liechtenstein or Luxembourg. Also the idea that countries that don't worship Jesus have worse economies by fiat. I'm sure Fusō would be very interested in how that technically works out, especially considering that the whole thing is coming from a country who thinks modern medicine is witchcraft.

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The Holy Romangnan Empire of Ostmark
something something the sole legitimate Austria-Hungary larp'er on NS :3

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Shwe Tu Colony
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Posts: 4827
Founded: Sep 27, 2016
Democratic Socialists

Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Fri May 21, 2021 10:26 pm

Eiko Michori Suzurai

@Erika Byrnes | Yeah. It apparently went through the Siopo twins, because apparently the official channels couldn't actually transfer it and those two have a device that converts telegram to MPR messages. For some reason.
@Anastasija Kladnov | Dramatic ones feel more... natural to me, but I don't mind lighthearted ones. There's some part of me that's... them, I suppose.
@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River | Myself... I mean, all of those roles are myself, anyway.

I told @Kasem Chuquivitu not to visit me yesterday for Suzuraigan Valentine's Day. Didn't really want to do anything. Got through until noon, fell asleep to a nap.
And then he woke me up with a bouquet of green roses and a lotus that he grew himself. Figured he wouldn't listen to me, but it didn't seem like he was gonna leave anytime soon since the Suzurai-Din Thi Di train runs 3 pm and 9 pm, and I didn't want him causing noise pollution at the hospital, so we went out to eat at a sushi place one of my directors had taken me to before. Ordered omakase, and I guess the bouquet in my lap was enough excuse for the chef to give us a flower of akagai, plus other sushi that... really, I was just there for him. Apparently, this was only the second time he's eaten sushi.
Anyway, we bought sweet soup after that, then returned home. Kasem almost fell asleep, but I'm not in a state to carry him to the train, so I had to keep him awake until the evening train. That was a little hard.


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Kasem Chuquivitu Din Thi Di

sushi date :kachmelt:


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Midnight Walker Jae-Syu

There were a bunch of potoo birds following me today, for some reason. Their eyes really are huge. Folklore says they're supposed to follow people who have something to hide, but I don't see why they'd follow me. I think they're still outside my window, too. Just a bunch of black eyes staring in...
@Eiko Michori | If it's the restaurant I'm thinking of, did you see the chef's moray eel?


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Eiko Michori Suzurai

@Kasem Chuquivitu | You're really trying to use your own MPR emojis here?
@Midnight Walker | Yeah, it swam near my table. Kasem tried to press some sushi towards it to "feed" it, but the waiter stopped him. Apparently, that makes it angry.


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Cherissime amis! Behold, Shwe Tu Colony/World Machine/WoMac, the paracosm of a spoiled brat, taking everything, sparing nothing, mingling the childhood incroyable with the angst of a young man.
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"The summer grass is getting in the way"
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The Selkie
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Founded: Sep 17, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Selkie » Fri May 21, 2021 11:48 pm

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Dr. Sergio Jose D. Mate, MD, PhD, FVSOG: Then please enjoy the show.
Btw, Ritu asks, if she can't have some of that popcorn? ; )

@Jalnatzic the Greatest: You know what the startling thing about you and your boyfriend is? It is meant as light teasing, but you go at it like starving dogs go at a sausage... and no, that is a metaphor, not innuendo.
In any case, what @Kimiya Shaheen says is true, usually, the wages are adjusted to the general costs of living. So, where the costs of living (rent, food, etc.) are higher, the wages are higher and vice versa (usually, exemptions reinforce the rule). Now I could ask you for the PPP of Bolrieg's currency, but let's stay with the absolute wages for now.
By the way, the overall average income of a Selkie sits at around 45,000 NSD yearly (13th and 14th wage included). Though, mind you, that is the income of everyone put into an average. By industries, trades, collective bargaining agreements, location and a whole lot of other factors, the personal income of course differs.
Tax cuts and universal healthcare in general have little to do with the economic system. Taxation, and thus tax cuts, is a problem of fiscal policy by definition and the healthcare system is the healthcare system, which, too, has little to do with the economic system. As for high wages, see above.
I say, that the Bolriegian economy is terrible because its products are bad, the majority of the bourgeoisie doesn't give a damn about the environment, let alone their employees (cue rant of how wonderfully Christian they are and how much they do for their workers, not out of the good will of their hearts but because otherwise, they would be socially shunned), and the political decision makers, are in huge conflicts of interests, which would disqualify them from any sort of office in any decent political system.
Do tell me, though, how is glorious Bolriegian Universal Healthcare System financed?


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I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 22, 2021 12:16 am

Clara Österreich-Toskana Berlin, Karlsland

All this hocus-pocus over the length of one's proverbial national penis aside (and honestly who names an online handle "Jalnatzic the Greatest" anyway?)
How's le weather in Selkieland @Elin of the Banks of the Bán River?

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Just for the record (and honestly it doesn't really matter to me if you do it or not Bolrieg), don't you find it incredibly tacky that you are essentially bragging about your completely made-up GDP/pc on a free to use forum-site originally intended to advertise for some book by an Australian author? I do.
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The Holy Romangnan Empire of Ostmark
something something the sole legitimate Austria-Hungary larp'er on NS :3

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Estado Novo Portugues
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Posts: 841
Founded: Mar 18, 2016
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Postby Estado Novo Portugues » Sat May 22, 2021 2:07 am

Francisco Escudeiro Holy Catholic State of Portugal 22/5/2021

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River:
At least, I do not believe in those ridiculous "scientific theories", invented by God-hating Satanists like Galileo to attack the Church and the Christian faith. Like the claim that man "evolved" from monkeys. Then, why do monkeys still exist today? If this "evolution" really works, shouldn't they all be humans by now? It is horrifying to see, just how many innocent souls around the world have been brainwashed by liberal Marxist education, to accept this heretical drivel instead of the Holy Book.

Light teasing? I do not think so, senhora. Religion is something we take very seriously in the Holy Catholic State, so much so that any blasphemy is very illegal. Accusations of sin are viewed the same way. Would you joke about a dead family member? To us, Jesus is like a father and Mary is like a mother.

@Kimiya Shaheen:
Both of those are licensed professions in the Holy Catholic State, just like in most countries. However, examinations are the responsibility of the government, not academic institutions. In fact, it is completely possible to become a doctor without attending medical school, if you can manage to pass the rigorous tests. I have personally known people who were poor students but great at their jobs, and vice-versa. So career opportunities should not depend on classroom performance. That is why all homework, tests and grades have been banned in primary/secondary schools since 1970, and employers are not allowed to ask about your academic background.

@Anastasija Kladnov:
My training begins next week. Since I already have decades of service under my belt, both with the Army and the Corpo d'Inquisidores (paramilitary religious police), I only have to complete 30 weeks of training. Otherwise, the process can be much longer, if you have no experience at all. First, you must complete 5 years of military service, at least 1 as Sergeant or higher. Then you must pass a thorough interview about your personal, religious and political opinions (being communist or gay is the quickest way to get rejected). Only then, you are eligible to join the Pontifical Guard training.

The exact work of the Pontifical Guard is confidential for security reasons, but I can say it is similar to what the U.S. Secret Service does. However, this is a purely military unit, not law-enforcement (unlike my current service), that exists solely to protect the Civil Director and Patriarch of the Church. So rather than arrest suspects, the Pontifical Guard is trained to terminate them if they are a threat.



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IC name: Holy and Pontifical State of Portugal
Posts before 2021 aren't canon.

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Bolrieg
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Founded: Aug 18, 2013
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Postby Bolrieg » Sat May 22, 2021 2:36 am

Anastasija Kladnov Shadforad, Bolrieg

@Eiko Michori Fair enough.

@Lindsey MacDougall Been a long time good to see you again, sorry to hear about that by the way. Can I help?

@Kristalinn Wainwright I think you were giving me a helping hand as it were. Anyway how has you shop and racing been going?

@Francisco Escudeiro Nice that you got the job, from it's description it sound like work you'd really enjoy. I hope you do well in it.




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Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Oberst i.G. Sieglinde Reinecke-Callenberg So you don't believe when nations have good economies and wages but you expect us to believe that you lot fended off an alien invasion by yourselves?

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River So the average income is around the same give or take, I suppose that's good. As for the other stuff, our free healthcare system makes healthier Bolriegians, that means more productivity. Tax cuts also stimulate growth (especially at the bottom) more money would be spent and invested causing more growth.
As for our products you don't even know what they all are and are just making base assumptions, as for the environment we aren't pro pollution and wasting everything, we just don't believe in the Communistic conspiracy theory of 'Climate Change'. "Global warming!!! Global freezing!!! Global staying the same!!! Very bad be very scared and give us all your wealth and sovereignty!!!" Please don't tell me you believe all of that?

Yes Bolriegian workers are treated very well, as for the reasoning yes some are very good, others don't really care about their employees. Same as anywhere else really, we just have a thing in Bolrieg called 'regulations' which prevents your potential employer from working you 80 hours a week then deciding to dock all your pay just because he feels like it. Yes healthcare is payed for with taxes, I am in favour of cutting taxes, not getting rid of them.

@Kristalinn Wainwright Well under a socialist system your shop would be taken away from you and everything you have earned would be taken away from you also.

@Francisco Escudeiro I don't understand why anyone supports Communism, I suppose they are all being paid by Amihan.

@Kimiya Shaheen Maybe so, but with our protectionist policies we more or less have guaranteed work, we don’t mind paying a little extra for goods.

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OOC: @ABH Do be aware the Jalnatzic are nationalists, they do tend to see Bolrieg as the best place there is.
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Lux Pulchrae
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Posts: 2222
Founded: May 15, 2017
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Postby Lux Pulchrae » Sat May 22, 2021 4:36 am

Giata Buccelatti Erba Verde, Montagna Province
Bongiorno tutti! Well I’ve been gone a while. Guess pifflenet is long gone.


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The Imagination Animals
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Founded: Mar 27, 2020
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Postby The Imagination Animals » Sat May 22, 2021 5:29 am

Supreme Leader Eric Wright Crossoveripolis

Nice Saturday morning, are we?


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New Aeyariss
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Founded: May 12, 2010
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sat May 22, 2021 7:47 am

AmritaLabs Ishikawa XX. XX.202X

Demand and supply of Amrita has balanced each other. The price now is 26 N$D / AMR


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Rping in MT (2023) and PT/FanT (1564)


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Bolrieg
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Founded: Aug 18, 2013
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Postby Bolrieg » Sat May 22, 2021 8:04 am

Milan Hjardavic Dalseja, Bolrieg 04/03/2021

Stonks! May the price keep rising.



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Polish Prussian Commonwealth
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Posts: 4926
Founded: Oct 30, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Sat May 22, 2021 8:05 am

Erika Byrnes Warsaw, Prussia-Poland

@Eiko Michori based. glad to see you're doing well.
@Francisco Escudeiro go outside and touch grass.




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"Furthermore, I submit that Carthage NSG must be destroyed." t. Marcus Porcius Cato

IC name is "Blauveldt-Ryszana".

A traumatized, but recovering, MT-Early PMT/FanT constitutional monarchy consisting of a personal and constitutional union of two Realms. Features: near-universal gun ownership, governmental dysfunction, terrified Christinaslander Air National Guard personnel counting down the days until they rotate back home, and an eternal standoff with the last of it's former oppressors.


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Foxfound
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Founded: Nov 16, 2018
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Foxfound » Sat May 22, 2021 1:13 pm

Kristalinn Wainwright Chena, Alaska
@Jalnatzic the Greatest If you take anything I say about politics seriously that's your own problem, buddy.

@Anastasija Kladnov Shop's been getting as good of business as I could expect out here in the boonies. Honestly a miracle given that the flagship store is just a little ways east in Fairbanks. Racing's just getting started for the year and I haven't placed in the top three yet, but I have high hopes for tomorrow's rally.

@Francisco Escudeiro All you need to show that the Earth goes around the sun is a telescope and some basic math. Maybe not even the telescope now that I think about it. Setting the true layout of the solar system aside, I hardly see how Galileo was anti-Christian to espouse this theory. If my understanding is correct, didn't the consensus on geocentrism come from Aristotle and Ptolemy - who were decidedly not Christian - and not the Bible?


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IC Name: Ketorushima
Arctic island inhabited by kitsune and other yōkai.
Set about a decade after the world becomes aware of the supernatural. Details on that will come later.
Slowly trying to rework the factbooks and write for this nation again. Sometimes I worry I'm bad at writing but I think I'm getting better

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Bolrieg
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Founded: Aug 18, 2013
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Postby Bolrieg » Sat May 22, 2021 1:38 pm

Anastasija Kladnov Shadforad, Bolrieg

@Kristalinn Wainwright Well best of luck in the next race then, as for your shop I’m glad you’re doing well at it. I take it the main shop sends you a lot of their supplies?




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Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Kristalinn Wainwright Just saying is to be careful, Communists like to shoot anyone owning a business. In the 60’s before the Regency was established, Communists from the EU used to come here go on these larps where they would ride around in gangs looking for small businesses and burning it down as well as killing the business owner while also wanting to go after their families as well. They enjoyed inflicting misery onto innocent people, they also rioted whenever Bolriegians stood up for themselves. Anyway the looks on their faces must have been priceless when the armed forces stepped in and cracked down on these idiots as well as the traitors condoning this.

Of course the Liberals here whinge about what happened under the Regency as well as many EU leftists because they don’t like how criminals got punished. The Left wants crime, they want to steal everything you have then want you arrested for complaining about it. The EU actually has that policy in place where thieves, dealers and other criminals can do whatever they want and the victims instead get punished because they hurt the criminal’s feelings.

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The Selkie
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Founded: Sep 17, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Selkie » Sat May 22, 2021 2:25 pm

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Jalnatzic the Greatest, @Francisco Escudeiro: Hello, there, wakaobito. Ritu here, writing for Elin, who is currently giving me a massage and dictating what I am to write. She says, that I am to end this sentence with a semicolon and a closing braket.
So, her words, wakaobito: Enjoy your togetherness. I wonder who is the man in your relationship and who is the woman...
Now, back to the topic, Kladdy: I asked you about how the universal healthcare system is financed. You said, by taxes. Fair enough, you might know it better then I do. The problem is your next half-sentence: "[...] I am in favour of cutting taxes, not getting rid of them." You do realize, that in order to finance something, you need money and that money does not spontanously appear just because you ask a wooden figurine of a guy nailed to a wooden cross, right? And that, if there is less money coming in from taxes, because there are tax cuts, there won't be enough money to finance things like, say, healthcare, infrastructure, police, the military and schools.
So, there are options of what would happen then:
    One, the state prints money. That will lead to inflation, but for a short time, the state will be able to keep up with the expanse. In time, and a very quick time, I might add, the economy will collapse because the wages can not keep up with the inflation and thus people can not buy toilet paper and so they use the, now worthless, money to do the deed.
    Two, the state procures money from other sources, for example by confiscating the property and wealth of those they don't like - however, that would be communist and for Bolrieg to dabble into the devil's methods... no, what are you thinking? Get your boyfriend to spank you!
    Three, the state cuts expenses. That would mean less funding for healthcare, less funding for infrastructure, less funding for police, less funding for the military, less funding for schools. As the people responsible will not be able to keep up their work with less money (and the cuts associated with it, like less doctors or police officers), no matter how good they are at their jobs or how valiantly they try, the entire system will grind to a halt.
So, you tried to tell me, that tax cuts are not only a fiscal policy, but also an economic policy. Will you now try to tell me, seeing by the quoted examples alone as how many things are affected by tax cuts, that tax cuts are also part of security policies, infrastructure policies and educational policies?
(And before you start, there are a lot of other things the state spends money on that would be affected by tax cuts. And also, no, just because there is "more growth with less taxes", it does not mean, that the losses will magically disappear or that the same amount of money will be able to satisfy the needs of the apparatus, which will have to grow along with the economy.)
Another thing, though. You say, that healthcare should be public, because then "[...] people not paying thousands to fix a broken arm is not only the better thing morally but also allows them to spend that money within the economy making businesses more money." Now, you also say, that the healthcare system is financed by the taxes, read, the regular dues you have to pay to your government so that they keep things, like the healthcare system, running. So... hate to break it to you, searrach, but in a way, you are "[...] paying thousands to fix a broken arm [...]." The idea is good, I give you that, but maybe you should rethink your argument...?


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Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Clara Österreich-Toskana: Here in Leuda, it's very erratic. One moment you have sunshine and even something close to 20°C, the next, you see clouds forming up and quarter an hour later, it's 10°C and pouring rain. It has been like that for two weeks now. How about the weather in Berlin?
(My bet would be somebody, who has to compensate for a lack in a... certain department, if you catch my meaning. ; ))


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I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Qhevak
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Founded: Jul 22, 2019
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Qhevak » Sat May 22, 2021 2:26 pm

Alivera Hawthorne Old Man Werner's House

@Francisco Escudeiro Evolution doesn't claim we evolved from monkeys but I'm starting to wonder if you're an exception.


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The Oortian Community of Qhevak
Distributed association of posthuman Oort cloud space habitats in deep Scutum Centaurus - basically all of these ideologies living together. A Power 5 civilization according to this index. Does not use NS stats. Wiki here.
Aerospace Engineering grad student, currently doing work on smallsat and sounding rocket projects.
Previously Gogol Transcendancy, Ibis Galaxy Alliance.
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Katase
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Posts: 210
Founded: Mar 06, 2021
Father Knows Best State

Postby Katase » Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 pm

Sakura Horikawa Nadeshiko 22 May 2021

Whole family is packing up as we're heading to Katase's new colony. I hope I remember my seasickness pills...




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The Imagination Animals
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Founded: Mar 27, 2020
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Postby The Imagination Animals » Sat May 22, 2021 2:31 pm

Zöe Dabrowski

My friends asked me to be here, so I was just wondering, how is everyone doing today?


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IC Name: Crossoveria
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This nation doesn't represent my views

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Qhevak
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Founded: Jul 22, 2019
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Qhevak » Sat May 22, 2021 2:37 pm

Akane Kawaguchi Proxima Centauri b orbit

@Zöe Dabrowski Good here, doing a nice trading run.


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Alivera Hawthorne Old Man Werner's House

@Zöe Dabrowski It's nice, relaxing at my diplomatic mission right now. Tensions on PruCh seem high as usual.


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The Oortian Community of Qhevak
Distributed association of posthuman Oort cloud space habitats in deep Scutum Centaurus - basically all of these ideologies living together. A Power 5 civilization according to this index. Does not use NS stats. Wiki here.
Aerospace Engineering grad student, currently doing work on smallsat and sounding rocket projects.
Previously Gogol Transcendancy, Ibis Galaxy Alliance.
N&I RP in a shellnut

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The Selkie
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Founded: Sep 17, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Selkie » Sat May 22, 2021 2:42 pm

Fi the Head Sea Weasel Good Question

@Zöe Dabrowski: Very good, thank you. We got the final approval of the Rectorate of my university to take the nascent University of Leuda Sensha-Do Team to the 2021 Iris Boarding School Complex Sensha-Do Convention in June. The logistics are going to be a nightmare, but it will be the fun kind of nightmare! : D


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I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Bolrieg
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Founded: Aug 18, 2013
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Postby Bolrieg » Sat May 22, 2021 3:08 pm

Anastasija Kladnov Shadforad, Bolrieg

@Zöe Dabrowski Doing ok thanks, how about you?

@Fi the Head Sea Weasel Congratulations, I hope it goes well.



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Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River First I am not a Kladnov, just to make that clear Second I don’t really know what that word means, then again I probably won’t want to either.

Now for the other stuff yes taxes will pay for the essentials such as those mentioned above. Now the reason why cutting taxes can help fund these more is that tax cuts increases growth as people with more money will spend and invest that money which will create a multiplayer effect. For example cutting rates for a small business will allow them to buy more products and advertise more, getting more business. This will not only cause this business to buy more fro the wholesalers but also have to hire more people to help out. So far by cutting taxes on this business will also increase the revenue the exchequer receives by the profits being taxes as well as the various sales taxes from the wholesalers. But wait there’s more the employees as well as the employer will look to spend that money whether it be on food, or on going out. The other shops and pubs will also receive more revenue which in turn will lead to the more demand for new staff and good.

See where I’m going with this? So far that is the impact on the economy if experimented on with a small shop. Imagine this 1000’s of times over all over the nation, while the tax rate will be less in terms of percentage. The overall tax revenue will increase, to simplify it look at it like this which will the state be benefit more. A 40% on an income of 20,000 or a 20% on an income of 100,000? If you cut taxes on people they will make more money which will make for money for the exchequer.

So looking at it like that cutting taxes will overall produce more in taxes, which will mean more funding for healthcare, education, the armed forces and infrastructure.

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Qhevak
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Founded: Jul 22, 2019
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Qhevak » Sat May 22, 2021 3:39 pm

Bobby Tomlinson, Moria Hab World Assembly Ambassador City Hall Square of Liletraeth, Rhanbaglas-Region, Syryffio 3/4/2021

@Jalnatzic the Greatest I'd say that's quite context dependent. 0% and 100% taxation will inevitably give no revenue - there's a sweet spot in between that will give you the most. Whether you're above or below that, I don't know.

Even if it raises long term growth in theory, cutting taxes in the short term might also render your state unable to fund certain functions, such as infrastructure, healthcare and R&D, which will hurt economic growth more than the incentives created by tax cuts would help it.


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The Oortian Community of Qhevak
Distributed association of posthuman Oort cloud space habitats in deep Scutum Centaurus - basically all of these ideologies living together. A Power 5 civilization according to this index. Does not use NS stats. Wiki here.
Aerospace Engineering grad student, currently doing work on smallsat and sounding rocket projects.
Previously Gogol Transcendancy, Ibis Galaxy Alliance.
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The Selkie
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Founded: Sep 17, 2014
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Selkie » Sat May 22, 2021 3:47 pm

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Jalnatzic the Greatest, @Francisco Escudeiro: Oh, my apologies, I (Ritu) should have told you that - wakaobito means something along the lines of young folk. Okunaratsurans use that term to call everyone, who isn't a Okunaratsuran.
According to Elin, however, you indeed do sound like a Kladnov.
Also, I am to type to you in the name of my girlfriend, who is massaging me right now: "That is not, how that works."


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I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
My people are called the Selkie, the nation is usually called the Free Lands in MT-settings. Thanks.

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Postby Bolrieg » Sat May 22, 2021 4:04 pm

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@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Ah that’s ok then, no offence taken on that. Anyways the Jalnatzic was founded by Julipine Kladnov and we mostly support what he has to say, imagine that joining a group and agreeing with that group’s founder. Anyway yes that is how it works, there is something called the ‘Laffer Curve’ which shows how it works. If you tax too highly you will receive less revenue, that’s a fact.

@Bobby Tomlinson, Moria Hab World Assembly Ambassador Thanks I was getting to that,the ‘Laffer Curve’ as it’s called. By the way the party I support will be cutting the tax rate overtime to reasonable levels, especially compared to the opposition.

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