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[New Visayan Islands]

Bp. Vicente N. Ibarazaki II Cebu City, DH

May 21st is the feast day of the Marty-Saints of the Cristero War (Ss. Cristobal Magallanes and Companions), clergy and laity martyred in odium fidei at the hands of an anticlerical (some would argue genocidal) government. The Gospel reading for this is Jn 12:24-26, part of the narrative on the Coming of Jesus' Hour; summed up, dying to the self reaps the fruits of eternal life, something these martyr-saints knew and accepted in the face of persecution...a persecution that was backed by actual racists. The Cristero War saw Elias Calles backed by the Ku Klux Klan.

"¡Viva Cristo Rey!" is not only a cry of praise to Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe, in the context of the Cristeros, flawed that they were, it was a profession of their faith.

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[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Clara Österreich-Toskana Berlin, Karlsland 2021-05-19

@Jalnatzic the Greatest
It's also 2774 Ab urbe condita, 4718 since the Yellow Emperor, 2681 since Emperor Jimmu, 1443 in the Islamic calendar, ROC Year 110 et cetera et cetera. What's your point?

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[The Selkie]

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Jalnatzic the Greatest: The problem is, that I have yet to meet a young Bolriegian with a decent education, so...
And again, I am not asking you to answer any other question but "Define a working economy." If this would be a test in school, you would get zero points, failing grade and off you go back to basic reading classes.

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Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Eiko Michori: A lot of people might tell you that, but if we ever meet again, I'll do it. ; ) Promises aside, I was not referencing your past roles, but I want to give you a hug because of you yourself.

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Tea the Sabre-Maiden Scrín 2021-04-17

@Anastasija Kladnov: Well, try to get a positive spin out of your artistic career, then, so you won't mope all the time.
Thanks.

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[Bolrieg]

Anastasija Kladnov Shadforad, Bolrieg

@Tea the Sabre-Maiden Alright will do, it is hard sometimes but I do have those who do like what I so I haven’t failed at it. I also enjoy it if nothing else, I’ll see if anything comes up. You’re welcome, best of luck.

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Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River I’ve yet to see how you would define it also. At least I have gone over how the economy should work. All you’ve seem to have done is tell me how educated you are and how uneducated Bolriegians are. The Kingdom has a higher economic output than the Free Lands, so we must be doing something right even though we don’t have degrees.

So if I am so bad at defining how an economy should work why don’t you give it a try seeing as you’re so much more educated than I am.

@Clara Österreich-Toskana It makes up as much as a point when you and many others on the left keep going. “It’s the current year, did you know it’s the current year?” Usually as an argument against Christianity. Yes we know what year it is, it is the current year. It is in fact the current Year of Our Lord, I am a Christian in the Year of Our Lord 2021.

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[New Visayan Islands]

Bp. Vicente N. Ibarazaki II Cebu City, DH

@Jalnatzic the Greatest: For some reason, I do not believe that was the point @Clara Österreich-Toskana was trying to make.

Also, I realize that I made a typo in my post from earlier: it was supposed to be Martyr-Saints in the phrase Martyr-Saints of the Cristero War. And yes, the path to hate does make for strange bedfellows, bedfellows that may very well turn on each other when the common object of their hatred ceases to be.

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[Bolrieg]

Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Bp. Vicente N. Ibarazaki II Well many on the left keep making that stupid talking point as is if somehow pointing out the year somehow wins the argument. The Nifonese are against Cultural Gayness as are Bolriegians, I imagine you are as well. These people tend to not like traditional values and want to force everyone to accept their agenda.

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[The Imagination Animals]

Karkusha Saparo Rouziah, Crossoveria

Spreading positive messages is beautiful. Everyone here and all over the world should love themselves just they way they are.

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Maria Gadal Germanshyr, Crossoveria

@Bp.VincenteNIbarazkiII What a wonderful text. As a fellow Christian, I feel happy that you would remember this day.

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[Estado Novo Portugues]

Francisco Escudeiro Holy Catholic State of Portugal 21/5/2021

It is my honor to announce that I have been accepted to train as a Pontifical Guard (Guarda Pontifícia). Defending the Catholic faith and the Portuguese nation has been my life-long calling, and there is no better way to do so than this. For God, Fatherland and Family! Salve Salazar!

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River:
Here, I will answer your question. So hopefully you will stop picking on my fellow Christian.

A working economy is one that allows a society to grow to its fullest potential, within the bounds of traditional Christian moral values. In addition, it encourages individual citizens to live good faithful lives, so that they may get closer to Heaven. To that end, you must put the common good before the bottom line, something that is sorely lacking in most neo-liberal economies. This is why the Holy Catholic State has banned all foreign companies and imports, so that businesses will care about their workers and consumers, not chasing after ways to pinch pennies here and there.

But it is not just about social welfare—companies must take care to honor the Lord in everything they do. This is why we keep the Internet away from the public, to protect them from harmful and Satanic influences in foreign media, that could lead them astray from the true Christian faith. And why elective body modifications such as tattoos and plastic surgery are illegal here: every body is an individual temple for God, and defiling it would be the ultimate sacrilege. And do not forget about drugs. In my nation, drug trafficking is punishable by death, because it takes a very horrible kind of evil to take advantage of vulnerable people and pump the Devil's poison into them.

This is why I consider Afonso Salazar a great economist and a great leader. Unlike other politicians, he sees neo-liberalism for its true colors, and recognizes the harm it does to nations and people. Our science is nothing to be proud of, but we all know what acid does: it destroys everything it touches. And for a Christian society, that acid is neo-liberalism and cultural Marxism.

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[Bolrieg]

Anastasija Kladnov Shadforad, Bolrieg

@Francisco Escudeiro Good to see you again, congratulations on your promotion by the way.

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Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Francisco Escudeiro I think you have the right of it, this is what we believe in also. I think the problem is in The Free Lands political groups from what I have seen is composed of two Marxist groups and a Fake Conservative group. Glad we have a real choice in Bolrieg, even if the right choice is obvious. Also as I've said earlier good morality means a good economy, Christian countries are more likely to be wealthier than none Christian countries. A lot of countries with high levels of Athiesm also tend to have a high level of crime as they believe that morals are wrong and think stealing is good and they are protesting to get all crimes either legalised or decriminalised.

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[Dayganistan]

Kimiya Shaheen Kabul, Dayganistan
@Jalnatzic the Greatest I'm going to have to correct you about non-Christian countries being less likely to be wealthy. I can point to plenty of Islamic countries including my own that have quite strong economies. And I can point to plenty of highly religious Christian countries that aren't so wealthy. South America and some countries in sub-Saharan Africa come to mind here. Religion really has nothing to do with how wealthy a country will be in the long term. It just so happens that a lot of Christian countries happen to be located in parts of the world that gained wealth through exploiting weaker nations.

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I don't use NS stats so please keep that in mind. You can find my GDP in my factbooks.

[Bolrieg]

Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Kimiya Shaheen The countries in South America and Africa you point to as being poor have accepted Socialism which hates Christianity and believes that the state should take everyone’s money. They are examples of Athiesm ruining economies. Bolrieg is an example of a Christian country that is wealthy due to good morals, after all Andresus III who let the immoral Dralsdis and Marxist run around taking everything made us bankrupt, when the Regency was established there was Faith and Morality which helped us become an economic powerhouse. His Grand Majesty is also pro morality and has created even more success for us.

As for the Middle East, most of that wealth is oil wealth. Although saying that they also reject Atheism and Marxism which will improve their situation a lot.

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[Dayganistan]

Kimiya Shaheen Kabul, Dayganistan
@Jalnatzic the Greatest And plenty of these countries do not have socialist systems yet are still not in great economic situations. Or they have strong economies but the average person sees little of this wealth. There's a lot more to economic power than religion and whether or not you have a capitalist economic system.

And you would call my country atheist because we don't have religious laws and non-interference between religion and government. Yet somehow we can be a solid middle income nation which kind of proves your theory wrong.

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[The Selkie]

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Jalnatzic the Greatest: I already did.
And no, you have not "gone over how the economy should work." You have explained to me, how the Bolriegian Economy should work in the in the bright pink bubble that is what your Daddy tells you.
Also, of course Bolrieg has an higher absolute GDP. Bolrieg has a population several times the size of the Free Lands. You should rather ask for the GDP per capita. ; )
A small side note, though: Don't try to understand our political system or the different actors within it. We don't understand it ourselves, so you won't stand a chance.

@Francisco Escudeiro: Congratulations on your advancement in your job.
Sadly, I must make you aware, that you explained to me a specific case, but did not provide a definition, which is, what I didn't even ask of your Bolriegian Boyfriend, but asked of @President Joseph Monroe: To define 'a working economic system'.

Seriously, you two... homework over the weekend: Make a definition of an object on your desk. 100 words maximum. That object can be your screen, a pen, whatever - but make a definition of it. Task clear?

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(OOC, @Bolrieg: Small note at this point, I don't play by NS-Stats.)

[The Imagination Animals]

Greg Heffley, Secretary of the Crossoverian Treasury Crossoveriapolis

@JalnazticTheGreatest Crossoveria is located in the Middle East, but most of our wealth comes from the Industry, not from Petroleum.

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[Bolrieg]

Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Kimiya Shaheen The ones with a stronger Church influence as well as a market economy tends to have it better of than their neighbours. Gran Cuscatcalan is richer than their neighbours due to these things, Nifon is also richer than it’s neighbours. We are also richer than our neighbours because for most of the last century they were ruled by Communists, we luckily were able to avoid that. Even if these countries no longer have leftist governments they are still rebuilding from all that damage that they created.

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River I was using my nation as the example, these policies should also be implemented in the Free Lands as well, alongside other nations. I don’t really see what my parents have to do with what I said. Saying that strong families also helps make for strong economies and civilisations. As for our GDP yes it is very large, as for the average wage it is between W£50,000-80,000 a year, even the lowest incomes you’re going to be able to live off on. This will definitely improve under a Rexist government as we will increase wages.
Looking at your system it seems you have the Selkie equivalent of Dralsdis ruling the country with no High King to keep them in check, although to my knowledge someone tried to rectify that but failed. Also with your political organisations at least the three main ones are all on the left.

@Greg Heffley, Secretary of the Crossoverian Treasury Like I also said you lot also reject Marxism and Athiesm. Believing in both morality and enterprise is what builds economies, I also imagine you also believe in family.

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OOC: I don’t usually either, for the record.

[The Imagination Animals]

Greg Heffley, Secretary of the Crossoverian Treasury Crossoveriapolis

@JalnazticTheGreatest We do reject Marxism, but there's heated debate on Atheism. About economics, we do believe in morality and enterprise, and you are right when you said I believe in family.

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[The Selkie]

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Jalnatzic the Greatest: I asked (someone else, for that matter ; )) for a definition, you gave an example. Notice the difference?
As for the average wages, 50k to 80k of any currency is a pretty wide margin, so I presume, that whoever came up with that number threw everything and the kitchen sink into the calculation. But, out of interest, could you give us the average wage in NSD?
I'll not go into your brain-fart of the Free Lands, or anyone, taking past and present Bolrieg as an example for anything other then "How NOT to run a country", because there are so many counter-arguments, you would have to take your socks off to count them and wouldn't even be near the total number. And to be honest, I have better things to do then to list them all off.

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(OOC, @Bolrieg: Cool.)

[Estado Novo Portugues]

Francisco Escudeiro Holy Catholic State of Portugal 21/5/2021

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River:
Boyfriend? That is nonsense. I am faithfully married, to a woman for that matter. Every proper Christian, which you clearly are not, should be familiar with Leviticus 18.22 in the Bible. In addition, having relationships outside of marriage is illegal in the Holy Catholic State. But nothing says two people of the same gender cannot be friendly. Ever had a "girls' night out" with female friends? Then you have no place to accuse me of such scandalous conduct.

I literally just defined a working economy in my first sentence. "A working economy is one that allows a society to grow to its fullest potential, within the bounds of traditional Christian moral values." If you choose not to accept such a definition, that is up to you. And why is everyone so obsessed with homework, studying and tests? We got rid of that oppressive system decades ago, and have never looked back. An academic degree is nothing but a worthless piece of paper here.

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[The Selkie]

Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Leuda

@Francisco Escudeiro: Oh, by Belimaw, you just now realized, that I am not a 'faithful Christian'?! I'll give you one better: Not only am I in that weird middle between Selkie-Pagan and Spiorad-Pagan, I also have a girlfriend. Said girlfriend currently massaging my shoulders and giggling about you lot.
Also, he is your boyfriend. Did your wife get jealous already or can't she because that would be a mortal sin? (Is that what you call them?)

Where I am from, we test our stundents to make sure, that they learned, understood and can a apply the things they had in their lessons. Depending on the teacher, that can also mean thinking outside of the box of what one has been taught. Also, studying is a way of self-improvement and tests give one a good estimate of where one stands in attaining knowledge and wisdom.
Now, I grant you, that your first sentence was a part of a definition, by no means a complete one in my book, but that's just someone, who studies and has tests and aims for an academic degree for her future life and job. The rest, however, was not a definition and it was not what I asked for. If I were to give, say, five points for the task "Define 'a working economic system.'", you'd get one point.

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[Dayganistan]

Kimiya Shaheen Kabul, Dayganistan
@Francisco Escudeiro If acadecmic degrees are useless in your country how do you have doctors? Or engineers to build your infrastructure? Or do you just say "God wanted this bridge to collapse" or "God wanted them to die from cancer"? Sounds an awful lot like the jihadists in my country to be honest.

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[Bolrieg]

Anastasija Kladnov Shadforad, Bolrieg

@Francisco Escudeiro What is the new job like?

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Jalnatzic the Greatest Bolrieg

@Francisco Escudeiro Ah you see that is her being ‘clever’, as we oppose homosexuality she makes the joke we’re homosexuals because she wants to irritate us.

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River Our currency is a bit more a valuable than NSD so, if you were to ask an average Bolriegian the equivalent would probably be around 40,000 NSD, some might make less and others make more but that is good going I think.
Ok then if you’re going on about how terrible Bolrieg is economy wise, tell me what is so bad about it. Tax cuts, universal healthcare and high wages are example of what we have here, do you oppose these on the basis we have them in Bolrieg?

@Greg Heffley, Secretary of the Crossoverian Treasury Probably why things work over there, also don’t let the Atheists win.

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[The Imagination Animals]

Greg Heffley, Secretary of the Crossoverian Treasury Crossoveriapolis

@JalnazticTheGreatest This is not my concern.

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[New Visayan Islands]

Dr. Sergio Jose D. Mate, MD, PhD, FVSOG New Washington, PY

@Elin of the Banks of the Bán River, @Francisco Escudeiro: Don't mind me, just munching on the metaphorical popcorn here.

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[Dayganistan]

Kimiya Shaheen Kabul, Dayganistan
@Jalnatzic the Greatest High wages are one thing but I'm sure the prices are adjusted for wages because that usually happens. Prices are lower in countries where the wages are lower and prices are higher where wages are higher so people still end up having to spend roughly the same percentage of their monthly earnings on essential items and services. Your average yearly wage is around twice that of my country, but most people who have jobs aren't struggling to get by because prices are adjusted for wages.

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[Foxfound]

Kristalinn Wainwright Chena, Alaska
I ain't no commie, but I wouldn't be against socialism if it means I get some worker's self-management of my shop here. I can't believe corporate made me take the vintage comic book memorabilia off the walls. Something about rebranding.

Also, veeeery tempted to bend the rules on imagery to scare the new resident fundamentalist away. All in the spirit of good fun, of course.

@Anastasija Kladnov No problem!

Also ugh, accidentally lost my last post to the ether. Overwrote it instead of making a new one. This vexes me, but I suppose I only have myself to blame.

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