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Arvan Irawer
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Posts: 411
Founded: Oct 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Arvan Irawer » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:18 am

(OOC: If we keep the clause in we could cause a fuss if SM does try to integrate and have proof it is not the real ICDN. We could even add a clause saying 'The name International Consortium of Democratic Nations, and all its direct subsidiaries, shall not be used for any purposes unless a majority of members at the time of disbandment agree to the use'.

This would mean SM technically couldn't use the name unless that cannon wasn't recognised. However, not recognising that cannon open a rabbit hole of problems, such as the ICDN still existing.)
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:24 am

Arvan Irawer wrote:(OOC: If we keep the clause in we could cause a fuss if SM does try to integrate and have proof it is not the real ICDN. We could even add a clause saying 'The name International Consortium of Democratic Nations, and all its direct subsidiaries, shall not be used for any purposes unless a majority of members at the time of disbandment agree to the use'.

This would mean SM technically couldn't use the name unless that cannon wasn't recognised. However, not recognising that cannon open a rabbit hole of problems, such as the ICDN still existing.)

Sedge already ruled that he can use it whenever he wants and that IP doesn't matter, so creating a direct successor is our best shot. He's decided that since his integration was passed before our disbandment, the GA has to approve of our dissolution.

At this point, making a direct successor is our best shot to knock him down a peg. Hell, we'll integrate the GA without their consent and see how they like it.
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Arvan Irawer
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Posts: 411
Founded: Oct 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Arvan Irawer » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:39 am

(OOC: A direct successor would be the way to go to keep the alliance. But, it will eventually decline like the ICDN. So we should see how many people join SM's version before.
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:41 am

Arvan Irawer wrote:(OOC: A direct successor would be the way to go to keep the alliance. But, it will eventually decline like the ICDN. So we should see how many people join SM's version before.

Eh, I'm willing to bet that it won't. Additionally, this isn't a "wait and see" thing. SM's "integration" is apparently giving everyone membership and claiming we're in the alliance. The only winning play here is to make a successor and stick it to SM.
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Arvan Irawer
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Founded: Oct 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Arvan Irawer » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:53 am

(OOC: I will support a challenge to SM's ICDN, but we will have to convince others that we are the real successor, which shouldn't be hard.)
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:58 am

Arvan Irawer wrote:(OOC: I will support a challenge to SM's ICDN, but we will have to convince others that we are the real successor, which shouldn't be hard.)

Yeah.

My plan right now is to set up a new alliance claiming direct heritage from the ICDN, leveraging the fact I'm currently leading the alliance in the claim, while using my reputation from other RPs to try to attract some II/NSRP heavyweights. Maybe try to push through a merger with CUSP, but they've been inactive for a while, so I doubt that will happen. Make a new flag, high quality OP, all those bells and whistles, and try to get the moral high ground through allowing members more freedom and input.

I'm thinking of naming it the "Free Nations Defense Association", how does that sound?
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Zarnicovia nova
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Posts: 10209
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:03 am

South Americanastan wrote:
Arvan Irawer wrote:(OOC: I will support a challenge to SM's ICDN, but we will have to convince others that we are the real successor, which shouldn't be hard.)

Yeah.

My plan right now is to set up a new alliance claiming direct heritage from the ICDN, leveraging the fact I'm currently leading the alliance in the claim, while using my reputation from other RPs to try to attract some II/NSRP heavyweights. Maybe try to push through a merger with CUSP, but they've been inactive for a while, so I doubt that will happen. Make a new flag, high quality OP, all those bells and whistles, and try to get the moral high ground through allowing members more freedom and input.

I'm thinking of naming it the "Free Nations Defense Association", how does that sound?

FNDS. Sounds like a political party and SM's whole point is internationalism and ya know that elftist internationalist party. Nah.
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Arvan Irawer
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Posts: 411
Founded: Oct 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Arvan Irawer » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:05 am

South Americanastan wrote:
Arvan Irawer wrote:(OOC: I will support a challenge to SM's ICDN, but we will have to convince others that we are the real successor, which shouldn't be hard.)

Yeah.

My plan right now is to set up a new alliance claiming direct heritage from the ICDN, leveraging the fact I'm currently leading the alliance in the claim, while using my reputation from other RPs to try to attract some II/NSRP heavyweights. Maybe try to push through a merger with CUSP, but they've been inactive for a while, so I doubt that will happen. Make a new flag, high quality OP, all those bells and whistles, and try to get the moral high ground through allowing members more freedom and input.

I'm thinking of naming it the "Free Nations Defense Association", how does that sound?

(OOC: I think it sounds alright.)
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:13 am

[quote="Zarnicovia nova";p="39258833"][quote="South Americanastan";p="39258828"]
Yeah.

My plan right now is to set up a new alliance claiming direct heritage from the ICDN, leveraging the fact I'm currently leading the alliance in the claim, while using my reputation from other RPs to try to attract some II/NSRP heavyweights. [i]Maybe[/i] try to push through a merger with CUSP, but they've been inactive for a while, so I doubt that will happen. Make a new flag, high quality OP, all those bells and whistles, and try to get the moral high ground through allowing members more freedom and input.

I'm thinking of naming it the "Free Nations Defense Association", how does that sound?[/quote]
FNDS. Sounds like a political party and SM's whole point is internationalism and ya know that elftist internationalist party. Nah.[/quote]
Eh, I think it sounds fine. And the entire point of this would be to oppose SM, so it going against his point isn’t a bad thing.

Plus, “FNDA” rolls off the tongue pretty well
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Arvan Irawer
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Posts: 411
Founded: Oct 07, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Arvan Irawer » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:15 am

(OOC: FNDA also sounds alright)
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Former Member of ICDN(defunct)

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Zarnicovia nova
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Posts: 10209
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:16 am

OOC: you guys have discord? Let's figure this out there.
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:20 am

I have a discord, though ICDNcord got shut down a bit ago.
I can put up a new one if you guys want.
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Zarnicovia nova
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Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:22 am

South Americanastan wrote:I have a discord, though ICDNcord got shut down a bit ago.
I can put up a new one if you guys want.

let's make a chat and discuss this. My tag is: zarnicov#7898
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:26 am

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:I have a discord, though ICDNcord got shut down a bit ago.
I can put up a new one if you guys want.

let's make a chat and discuss this. My tag is: zarnicov#7898

Alright. I'm Thatrandomguy#1405.
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:28 am

Alright, friend request should be sent.
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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:33 am

Arvan, what's your discord name?
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The Eurasian Revolution Front
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Posts: 62
Founded: Apr 22, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Eurasian Revolution Front » Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:15 pm

South Americanastan wrote:Alright, would you guys be okay if the clause regarding prohibition of a direct successor was removed?

I'm fucking done with SM trying to integrate this alliance so I'm planning on making a successor to rival him.


OOC:I would-
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Deblar
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Founded: Jan 28, 2021
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Deblar » Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:20 pm

South Americanastan wrote:Alright, would you guys be okay if the clause regarding prohibition of a direct successor was removed?

I'm fucking done with SM trying to integrate this alliance so I'm planning on making a successor to rival him.

OOC: i wouldn't be against it

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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:21 pm

Alright, if anyone interested could TG me their discord names so I could add them, that would be great.
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Countesia
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Posts: 1941
Founded: Oct 10, 2019
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Countesia » Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:49 am

Deblar wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Alright, would you guys be okay if the clause regarding prohibition of a direct successor was removed?

I'm fucking done with SM trying to integrate this alliance so I'm planning on making a successor to rival him.

OOC: i wouldn't be against it


Neither would i

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South Americanastan
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Founded: Jun 26, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby South Americanastan » Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:02 am

Countesia wrote:
Deblar wrote:OOC: i wouldn't be against it


Neither would i

It's already up.

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Chemgota
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Posts: 164
Founded: Apr 09, 2020
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Chemgota » Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:00 am

OOC: Is our old alliance still alive?
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