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Postby Romextly » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:45 pm

Vronreli wrote:
Romextly wrote:So communism



No we are not communists, fascism is our ideology, we are gonna send the communists to the camps

Then why is there high standards?

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Postby Belize and Honduras » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:46 pm

this has turned into an argument
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:46 pm

The Tinhamptonian Government urges Barbar Zeitler, or whoever is the ruler of Vronreli, not to engage in the genocide, removal or deprivation of rights of those his adminstration has labelled "undesirable."

If such an appeal does not prove convincing, Tinhampton is currently willing to accept a limited number of refugees from the Zeitler regime - but will not accept offers of deportation from the government of Vronreli, whether forced or suggested. All applications are to be sent to Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4 Gasworks Road, Tinhampton, TI1 1AD.
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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:50 pm

Romextly wrote:
Vronreli wrote:

No we are not communists, fascism is our ideology, we are gonna send the communists to the camps

Then why is there high standards?



So it’s technically not a labor camp

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Postby Middle Barael » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:51 pm

“We will take them for you, that way you don’t have to spend money on detaining these Undesirable scum”
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Postby Romextly » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:51 pm

Middle Barael wrote:“We will take them for you, that way you don’t have to spend money on detaining these Undesirable scum”

OOC: We will free them and let them live as refugees in our city of Nebo.
ZEITLER HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING THIS, SO DONT METAGAME

That's what we are trying to do

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Postby Middle Barael » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:53 pm

Romextly wrote:
Middle Barael wrote:“We will take them for you, that way you don’t have to spend money on detaining these Undesirable scum”

OOC: We will free them and let them live as refugees in our city of Nebo.
ZEITLER HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING THIS, SO DONT METAGAME

That's what we are trying to do

Well we can split them I guess, since I didn’t I doubt either of us can easily manage millions of refugees at once

Also we can take all of the leftists if you want, seeing as your nation is more right-wing
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Postby Romextly » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:54 pm

Middle Barael wrote:
Romextly wrote:That's what we are trying to do

Well we can split them I guess, since I didn’t I doubt either of us can easily manage millions of refugees at once

Also we can take all of the leftists if you want, seeing as your nation is more right-wing

Me has millions of sqiare miles. Sure

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Postby Langenia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm

Langenia wrote:
Vronreli wrote:Does anybody have any suggestions?


You can exile them to places like this, or set up camps. Or we can send secret police to train yours in crushing dissent and making them disappear. This is for all communist, globalist, activists, and pro-democracy dissidents, protestants, criminals, and rebels. Now, for other religions and races, leave them alone, don't start a genocide, unless they are fervently anti-catholic.


Bump again.
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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm

Tinhampton wrote:The Tinhamptonian Government urges Barbar Zeitler, or whoever is the ruler of Vronreli, not to engage in the genocide, removal or deprivation of rights of those his adminstration has labelled "undesirable."

If such an appeal does not prove convincing, Tinhampton is currently willing to accept a limited number of refugees from the Zeitler regime - but will not accept offers of deportation from the government of Vronreli, whether forced or suggested. All applications are to be sent to Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4 Gasworks Road, Tinhampton, TI1 1AD.


We would like to accept you offer however your wording of regime is very inaccurate. In fact we are a very free country with lots of privileges. Now we need to deport/get rid of all the undesirables for logical reasons as we are running out of space and to save vital resources. Many of them also depend on welfare so getting rid if them whether violently or peacefully will free up our nation. We must get rid of them whatever means nesscary

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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:55 pm

Langenia wrote:
Langenia wrote:
You can exile them to places like this, or set up camps. Or we can send secret police to train yours in crushing dissent and making them disappear. This is for all communist, globalist, activists, and pro-democracy dissidents, protestants, criminals, and rebels. Now, for other religions and races, leave them alone, don't start a genocide, unless they are fervently anti-catholic.


Bump again.



Will you help us build camps then?

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Postby Langenia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:57 pm

Vronreli wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Bump again.



Will you help us build camps then?


Yes, and provide you with training for a secret police force, provided you don't commit genocide.
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Postby Middle Barael » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:59 pm

Langenia wrote:
Vronreli wrote:

Will you help us build camps then?


Yes, and provide you with training for a secret police force, provided you don't commit genocide.

Judging from their prior posts, this seems like a bad idea...
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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:00 pm

Langenia wrote:
Vronreli wrote:

Will you help us build camps then?


Yes, and provide you with training for a secret police force, provided you don't commit genocide.



Of course not.... genocide would be a waste of money... we will keep them in camps at worst no death. Now we also wish to expand our nation so we may need help with that as well

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Postby Langenia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:02 pm

Vronreli wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Yes, and provide you with training for a secret police force, provided you don't commit genocide.



Of course not.... genocide would be a waste of money... we will keep them in camps at worst no death. Now we also wish to expand our nation so we may need help with that as well


Fine, we can help your armed forces.
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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:06 pm

Langenia wrote:
Vronreli wrote:

Of course not.... genocide would be a waste of money... we will keep them in camps at worst no death. Now we also wish to expand our nation so we may need help with that as well


Fine, we can help your armed forces.



Now is there any small nations or piece of land we can have?

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Postby Langenia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:09 pm

Vronreli wrote:
Langenia wrote:
Fine, we can help your armed forces.



Now is there any small nations or piece of land we can have?


You can look around in Global Economics and Trade and ask nations to sell land to you.
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Postby Langenia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:09 pm

Realpolitik 8)
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Postby Belize and Honduras » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:10 pm

Langenia wrote:Realpolitik 8)

yay!

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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:17 pm

Anyone else want to help?

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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:26 pm

/bump

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Postby Langenia » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:26 pm

Vronreli wrote:/bump


Wait for longer periods of time to bump this, maybe like once a day.
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Postby Romextly » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:39 pm

The Empire of Romextly officiially condemns this nation

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Postby Vronreli » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:40 pm

Romextly wrote:The Empire of Romextly officiially condemns this nation


“Why we had done nothing wrong?”

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Postby Middle Barael » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Romextly wrote:The Empire of Romextly officiially condemns this nation

As will we, unless Vronreli promptly hands over their Undesirables to the governments of Middle Barael and Romextly

If you do not comply and give us your Undesirables, we will have no choice but to sanction and boycott Vronreli along with our allied nations

So please hand us over your Undesirables, we will “handle it from here”
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