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Romextly
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Postby Romextly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:30 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:
Romextly wrote:"So you are saying that Isaanistan is no longer except for Somalia?"

"To a degree yes, but our goal is still to reestablish/reclaim enemy territory and hand it over to the isaani government"

"Are you claiming that the Isaani government is in exile?

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New Antarcticania
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Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:32 pm

Romextly wrote:
New Antarcticania wrote:"To a degree yes, but our goal is still to reestablish/reclaim enemy territory and hand it over to the isaani government"

"Are you claiming that the Isaani government is in exile?

"No, we still believed that isaanistan is a country and not in exile"
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Romextly
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Postby Romextly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:33 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:
Romextly wrote:"Are you claiming that the Isaani government is in exile?

"No, we still believed that isaanistan is a country and not in exile"

"Then why are you trying to 'reestablish/reclaim enemy territory and hand it over to the isaani government'"?

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New Antarcticania
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Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:37 pm

"Although we still state that isaanistan is still s county, this does not ignore the fact the the republic of rayane is inciting rebellions inside insaanistan. And this does not ignore the fact that isaanistan has lost more than half of their territory"
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Romextly
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Postby Romextly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:38 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:"Although we still state that isaanistan is still s county, this does not ignore the fact the the republic of rayane is inciting rebellions inside insaanistan. And this does not ignore the fact that isaanistan has lost more than half of their territory"

"So you call them rebels?"

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New Antarcticania
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Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:44 pm

Romextly wrote:
New Antarcticania wrote:"Although we still state that isaanistan is still s county, this does not ignore the fact the the republic of rayane is inciting rebellions inside insaanistan. And this does not ignore the fact that isaanistan has lost more than half of their territory"

"So you call them rebels?"

We belive that the factions founding was not caused by rayane infulance, rather than president mustafa's demise"
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Postby Romextly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:46 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:
Romextly wrote:"So you call them rebels?"

We belive that the factions founding was not caused by rayane infulance, rather than president mustafa's demise"

"Yet, we do not call ISIS, even though they have pronounced that they are a state, do we?"

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Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:48 pm

Romextly wrote:
New Antarcticania wrote:We belive that the factions founding was not caused by rayane infulance, rather than president mustafa's demise"

"Yet, we do not call ISIS, even though they have pronounced that they are a state, do we?"

"Isis is not a country, its a terrorist organization, a terrible one at that"
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Postby Romextly » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:49 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:
Romextly wrote:"Yet, we do not call ISIS, even though they have pronounced that they are a state, do we?"

"Isis is not a country, its a terrorist organization, a terrible one at that"

"But they still claim to be a state, like these rebels."

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Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:54 pm

Romextly wrote:
New Antarcticania wrote:"Isis is not a country, its a terrorist organization, a terrible one at that"

"But they still claim to be a state, like these rebels."

"ISIS is always on the move, from one place to another. Unlike a state"
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South Cayriya
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Postby South Cayriya » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:08 pm

Shall we move onto Langenia now?
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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:10 pm

South Cayriya wrote:Shall we move onto Langenia now?


OOC: What did I do?
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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South Cayriya
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Postby South Cayriya » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:12 pm

Langenia wrote:
South Cayriya wrote:Shall we move onto Langenia now?


OOC: What did I do?

you used nuclear weapons

violation of article 51 of the geneva conventions 1977
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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:15 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
Langenia wrote:
OOC: What did I do?

you used nuclear weapons

violation of article 51 of the geneva conventions 1977


"We are not signatory to the 1977 Geneva Convention. Also, we didn't use it against civilians. Finally, our nuclear weapons were small, controlled explosions like those created by a Davy Crockett nuke. The radiation doesn't get far. And we didn't fire many."
Last edited by Langenia on Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:29 pm, edited 3 times in total.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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New Antarcticania
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Founded: Oct 25, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:18 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
Langenia wrote:
OOC: What did I do?

you used nuclear weapons

Then why are we obliged to follow the same article?
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South Cayriya
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Founded: Sep 23, 2020
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Postby South Cayriya » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:18 pm

Langenia wrote:
South Cayriya wrote:you used nuclear weapons

violation of article 51 of the geneva conventions 1977


OOC: We are not signatory to the 1977 Geneva Convention. Also, we didn't use it against civilians. Finally, our nuclear weapons were small, controlled explosions like those created by a Davy Crockett nuke. The radiation doesn't get far. And we didn't fire many.

Then where did you launch it?
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ABOUT MOI
"History will tell you even if [Hong Kongers] did fail, they did put up a good fight, they didn't just take it lying down" -Author Unknown "It's their future, it's their Hong Kong, they have every right to fight for it" -Author Unknown

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Langenia
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Founded: Apr 22, 2020
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Postby Langenia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:19 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
Langenia wrote:
OOC: We are not signatory to the 1977 Geneva Convention. Also, we didn't use it against civilians. Finally, our nuclear weapons were small, controlled explosions like those created by a Davy Crockett nuke. The radiation doesn't get far. And we didn't fire many.

Then where did you launch it?


"At some fields or valleys where I assume there was a large concentration of communist Insaani soldiers."
Last edited by Langenia on Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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South Cayriya
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Founded: Sep 23, 2020
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Postby South Cayriya » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:23 pm

Langenia wrote:
South Cayriya wrote:Then where did you launch it?


OOC: At some fields or valleys where I assume there was a large concentration of communist Insaani soldiers.

OOC: then that would be fine.
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM STAND WITH HONG KONG


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Hong Kong Protesters, Thai Protesters, Milk Tea Alliance, and Milk Tea
Hong Kong Mob Beatings, Hong Kong Police Force, Beijing China, Fake Milk Tea
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ABOUT MOI
"History will tell you even if [Hong Kongers] did fail, they did put up a good fight, they didn't just take it lying down" -Author Unknown "It's their future, it's their Hong Kong, they have every right to fight for it" -Author Unknown

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New Antarcticania
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Founded: Oct 25, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:24 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
New Antarcticania wrote:"Yes"

The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), or the Nuclear Weapon Ban Treaty, is the first legally binding international agreement to comprehensively prohibit nuclear weapons with the ultimate goal being their total elimination.

You have clearly violated this treaty.

So uhh, why do I get a violation for this for this when langleia is also launching nukes?
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Langenia
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Postby Langenia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:25 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:
South Cayriya wrote:The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), or the Nuclear Weapon Ban Treaty, is the first legally binding international agreement to comprehensively prohibit nuclear weapons with the ultimate goal being their total elimination.

You have clearly violated this treaty.

So uhh, why do I get a violation for this for this when langleia is also launching nukes?


OOC: South Cayriya, as long as the nation did not sign the TPNW, they are not breaking any laws. He is not violating any treaty.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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South Cayriya
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Posts: 667
Founded: Sep 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby South Cayriya » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:25 pm

New Antarcticania wrote:
South Cayriya wrote:The Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW), or the Nuclear Weapon Ban Treaty, is the first legally binding international agreement to comprehensively prohibit nuclear weapons with the ultimate goal being their total elimination.

You have clearly violated this treaty.

So uhh, why do I get a violation for this for this when langleia is also launching nukes?

Because you launched it at civilians
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM STAND WITH HONG KONG


also plz stand in silence for Chow Tsz-Lok thank you
Member of SETA, Member of the ISC
Hong Kong Protesters, Thai Protesters, Milk Tea Alliance, and Milk Tea
Hong Kong Mob Beatings, Hong Kong Police Force, Beijing China, Fake Milk Tea
click here plz
ABOUT MOI
"History will tell you even if [Hong Kongers] did fail, they did put up a good fight, they didn't just take it lying down" -Author Unknown "It's their future, it's their Hong Kong, they have every right to fight for it" -Author Unknown

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Langenia
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Founded: Apr 22, 2020
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Postby Langenia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:26 pm

-snip-
Last edited by Langenia on Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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South Cayriya
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Posts: 667
Founded: Sep 23, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby South Cayriya » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:26 pm

Langenia wrote:
New Antarcticania wrote:So uhh, why do I get a violation for this for this when langleia is also launching nukes?


OOC: South Cayriya, as long as the nation did not sign the TPNW, they are not breaking any laws. He is not violating any treaty.

He is committing a war crime by targeting civilians with a nuclear bomb. The TPNW did not even go into effect yet, not even IRL.
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM STAND WITH HONG KONG


also plz stand in silence for Chow Tsz-Lok thank you
Member of SETA, Member of the ISC
Hong Kong Protesters, Thai Protesters, Milk Tea Alliance, and Milk Tea
Hong Kong Mob Beatings, Hong Kong Police Force, Beijing China, Fake Milk Tea
click here plz
ABOUT MOI
"History will tell you even if [Hong Kongers] did fail, they did put up a good fight, they didn't just take it lying down" -Author Unknown "It's their future, it's their Hong Kong, they have every right to fight for it" -Author Unknown

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Langenia
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Founded: Apr 22, 2020
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Postby Langenia » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:27 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
Langenia wrote:
OOC: South Cayriya, as long as the nation did not sign the TPNW, they are not breaking any laws. He is not violating any treaty.

He is committing a war crime by targeting civilians with a nuclear bomb. The TPNW did not even go into effect yet, not even IRL.


"Yeah, targeting civilians is wrong, but just using nukes isn't as long as you don't sign the TPNW."
Last edited by Langenia on Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
Langenia is an MT Latin American nation, the result of European powers not successfully colonizing the region but leaving their mark. We outpollo PolloHut.
Military oversight? Checks on executive powers? Nah.
Our foreign policy: a t t a c k. Also, war?

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New Antarcticania
Minister
 
Posts: 3039
Founded: Oct 25, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby New Antarcticania » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:28 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
Langenia wrote:
OOC: South Cayriya, as long as the nation did not sign the TPNW, they are not breaking any laws. He is not violating any treaty.

He is committing a war crime by targeting civilians with a nuclear bomb. The TPNW did not even go into effect yet, not even IRL.

I think the effect thing means "effective until"
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