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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:09 am
by Piikala
Lacienia wrote:Zarnicovia Nova, please listen to us. You need to amend your constitution or we will act against you. This action will not be violent, but it will be powerful. This loophole might bring you to face far worse opponents. This is for the safety of your nation, amend the constitution. Troops. can be provided to prevent a civil war. I, speaking for all of us, urge you to fix the error.

-Dr. William Tanner

The Imperial Piikalan state agrees with Dr Tanner and wants to see amendments made to ZN constitution to see that the CUSP will ensure that its members are upholding international to the best of their abilities. To not risk the image of the CUSP in the eyes of the world. The Imperial State of Piikala will also be willing to assist any member state in an external or internal conflict to uphold international law by allowing any non WMD asset that's owned by the Piikalan government or the use of people from the Piikalan government.

-Ailani Takahashi

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:57 am
by Old Tanokiana
"From what I've deduced on the situation, I think my government has the right man for these... *ahem*... "Religious wackos." Either our head of Labour Mr. Bratal, or out Judiciary Vaskachevo, both don't like the word of God being misused. As for their army's insubordination, surely your state of Zarnicovia has the ultimate rule of "Head of state must be head of Armed forces," no? If not, I'm sure there's a way to disarm them, like maybe using the Air Force or Navy. Of course, there are probably cultural or socio-political hubbaloo I've not understood. And also, I belatedly welcome the nation of Zarnicovia Nova to the Council."

-Dr. Metraque

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:40 am
by Zarnicovia nova
Old Tanokiana wrote:"From what I've deduced on the situation, I think my government has the right man for these... *ahem*... "Religious wackos." Either our head of Labour Mr. Bratal, or out Judiciary Vaskachevo, both don't like the word of God being misused. As for their army's insubordination, surely your state of Zarnicovia has the ultimate rule of "Head of state must be head of Armed forces," no? If not, I'm sure there's a way to disarm them, like maybe using the Air Force or Navy. Of course, there are probably cultural or socio-political hubbaloo I've not understood. And also, I belatedly welcome the nation of Zarnicovia Nova to the Council."

-Dr. Metraque

"No our head of government and state is not military. He is the monarch and a very civilian orientated person. And may I make it clear it's the officers who have the power. Almost all of the officers want to keep. We need to wait for a democratic means to fix this."

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:41 am
by Zarnicovia nova
Piikala wrote:
Lacienia wrote:Zarnicovia Nova, please listen to us. You need to amend your constitution or we will act against you. This action will not be violent, but it will be powerful. This loophole might bring you to face far worse opponents. This is for the safety of your nation, amend the constitution. Troops. can be provided to prevent a civil war. I, speaking for all of us, urge you to fix the error.

-Dr. William Tanner

The Imperial Piikalan state agrees with Dr Tanner and wants to see amendments made to ZN constitution to see that the CUSP will ensure that its members are upholding international to the best of their abilities. To not risk the image of the CUSP in the eyes of the world. The Imperial State of Piikala will also be willing to assist any member state in an external or internal conflict to uphold international law by allowing any non WMD asset that's owned by the Piikalan government or the use of people from the Piikalan government.

-Ailani Takahashi

"This cannot as the conservative and centralist part of our nation doesn't want any more amendments because will be more leftist policies."

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:17 am
by Piikala
Zarnicovia nova wrote:
"This cannot as the conservative and centralist part of our nation doesn't want any more amendments because will be more leftist policies."


I see may I suggest try what Piikala had done during the fifties to curtail a growing leftist movement in our northern China regions. Where we mandated a system where the people had to 'elect' members of each party so that there was a balance of power as the government was made up of a member of each different political faction who 'cooperated' together without annnyyyy military force at all... actually now that I think about it maybe that isn't the best example...

-Ailani Takahashi

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:19 am
by Zarnicovia nova
Piikala wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:
"This cannot as the conservative and centralist part of our nation doesn't want any more amendments because will be more leftist policies."


I see may I suggest try what Piikala had done during the fifties to curtail a growing leftist movement in our northern China regions. Where we mandated a system where the people had to 'elect' members of each party so that there was a balance of power as the government was made up of a member of each different political faction who 'cooperated' together without annnyyyy military force at all... actually now that I think about it maybe that isn't the best example...

-Ailani Takahashi

"When the leftists are in control of the Senate and presidency? No. Both the left centralist and right have agreed to gridlock on any more amndemnants."

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:35 pm
by Old Tanokiana
"And this all started because three customs agents died for checking someone's purse?"
- Metraque

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:59 pm
by Zarnicovia nova
Old Tanokiana wrote:"And this all started because three customs agents died for checking someone's purse?"
- Metraque

"No."

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:02 pm
by Old Tanokiana
Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Old Tanokiana wrote:"And this all started because three customs agents died for checking someone's purse?"
- Metraque

"No."


"Great, now I'm even more confused as my deduction is complete merde. Would you kindly reexplain this entire situation briefly?"
- Metraque

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:03 pm
by Zarnicovia nova
Old Tanokiana wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:"No."


"Great, now I'm even more confused as my deduction is complete merde. Would you kindly reexplain this entire situation briefly?"
- Metraque

"Some guard do9ing his job searched a diplomatic pocket and made a loophole preventing a change in the policy. Then they were murdered (redacted so I don't get banned from NS)."

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:12 pm
by Old Tanokiana
"...And this turned into a kerfuffle because beareaucracy, the left, the army, and the church? The leftist higher ups aren't willing to amend the loophole, the army is never happy, and the Church is being the Church, am I missing something?"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:13 pm
by Zarnicovia nova
Old Tanokiana wrote:"...And this turned into a kerfuffle because beareaucracy, the left, the army, and the church? The leftist higher ups aren't willing to amend the loophole, the army is never happy, and the Church is being the Church, am I missing something?"

"The left can't amend because the centralist and right doesn't want any more amendments."

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:24 pm
by Trenaka
"I would like to bring attention to our colonial issues. Mobs of nationalists have taken over most of our Pacific colonies, and have also seized military assets there, including a fleet that is being used to blockade some of the colonies. I would like to request aid from CUSP to put down the revolution."

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:05 am
by Piikala
Trenaka wrote:"I would like to bring attention to our colonial issues. Mobs of nationalists have taken over most of our Pacific colonies, and have also seized military assets there, including a fleet that is being used to blockade some of the colonies. I would like to request aid from CUSP to put down the revolution."

Piikala will be willing to send aid from its state of the Kingdom of Hawaii, Rapanui, and Samoa to assist in these efforts.

-Aiilani Takahashi

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:15 am
by Svenska-Britannia
Trenaka wrote:"I would like to bring attention to our colonial issues. Mobs of nationalists have taken over most of our Pacific colonies, and have also seized military assets there, including a fleet that is being used to blockade some of the colonies. I would like to request aid from CUSP to put down the revolution."




"His Imperial Majesty is mobilizing the forces of the United Imperium. against the Nationalists...a Deep Strike Corps will be sent to aid out militarily" - Ambassador Hans Schmeisser

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:44 am
by Trenaka
(OOC: Link to a signup page for the insurgency: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=497161)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:22 am
by Lacienia
Trenaka wrote:"I would like to bring attention to our colonial issues. Mobs of nationalists have taken over most of our Pacific colonies, and have also seized military assets there, including a fleet that is being used to blockade some of the colonies. I would like to request aid from CUSP to put down the revolution."

We have mobilized a division of marines. We hope they can quell the rebellion.

-Dr. William Tanner

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:27 am
by Trenaka
“With th current assembled forces, we should be able to secure a quick victory.”

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:55 pm
by Zarnicovia nova
"Our colonies are starting to rebel."

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 pm
by Svenska-Britannia
"Oh for the love of..another?! You will have to negotiate with those colonies and make a compromise..otherwise this will spiral out of control fast.." - Ambassador Hans Schmeisser

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 pm
by Zarnicovia nova
Svenska-Britannia wrote:"Oh for the love of..another?! You will have to negotiate with those colonies and make a compromise..otherwise this will spiral out of control fast.." - Ambassador Hans Schmeisser

"We have 15 million men. We're trying to keep them from rebelling."

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:00 pm
by Svenska-Britannia
"Military force alone will not deter those colonies from rebelling..you will have to coordinate with them and reach a diplomatic compromise.."

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:01 pm
by Zarnicovia nova
Svenska-Britannia wrote:"Military force alone will not deter those colonies from rebelling..you will have to coordinate with them and reach a diplomatic compromise.."

"What? We're in a cold war we can't lose anything! We are doing our best."

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:03 pm
by Svenska-Britannia
"Listen..if those colonies rebel..it will spark waves of nationalism within the colonies of other nations..and this 'Cold War' will evolve into a damm World War! you HAVE to reach a diplomatic compromise and make sure that none gets the lesser end of the deal!"

PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:04 pm
by Trenaka
“Are the rebels a majority of your colonists? If so, I recommend a diplomatic solution.”