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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:01 pm
by Free Ravensburg
Socialist Macronesia wrote:
Free Ravensburg wrote:Change of plans, e g g will hatch, but she will just be a normal raven (that talks). Also, bringing Ravenia to the Christmas party


Free Ravensburg wrote:E g g will hatch at the party


VALV-As:

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Forgive me for asking, but what are those?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:05 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Socialist Macronesia wrote:
Free Ravensburg wrote:Change of plans, e g g will hatch, but she will just be a normal raven (that talks). Also, bringing Ravenia to the Christmas party


Free Ravensburg wrote:E g g will hatch at the party


VALV-As:

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Ari with a knife and a bunch of etsáhla:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:15 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
Free Ravensburg wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:


VALV-As:

(Image)

Forgive me for asking, but what are those?


The VALV-A is the attack variant of the normal VALV. Most VALVs can be equipped with things like AGLs, MG's, rotary cannons, missiles, and rockets from the doors, but the VALV-A went all out and strapped as many 40mm AGLs, 30mm anti-armour chainguns, 7.62 rotary guns, Inferno and ATLAS anti-tank missiles, unguided anti-armor rockets, and armor that the engines would allow, and on top of all that it's a VTOL gunship that can hover in place or circle a location for extended periods of time. It can wipe an entire company out if you use it well enough, and if you can get several you could probably take on thousands of troops at a time with little to no risk of danger. It's practically invincible to anti-aircraft guns, and it can evade and/or jam and/or hard kill SAMs. The VALV-A can also be used to shred lightly and medium armored ships to gibs, if you can make it within the anti-air perimeter, which is pretty easy if you have anti-ship missiles and know where to aim; SoMac uses anti-ship missiles liberally, so this was never a problem.

In case you're wondering, there's the VALV-T (transport) C (cargo) A (attack) AS (anti ship/submarine) E (electronic warfare) S (stealth) and a few niche others. Those are the main ones.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:18 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Socialist Macronesia wrote:-snip-

So it's this?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:19 pm
by Free Ravensburg
Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:-snip-

So it's this?
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Leimstag would destroy them with a spoon

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:23 pm
by Brettenwald
Socialist Macronesia wrote:
Free Ravensburg wrote:Forgive me for asking, but what are those?


The VALV-A is the attack variant of the normal VALV. Most VALVs can be equipped with things like AGLs, MG's, rotary cannons, missiles, and rockets from the doors, but the VALV-A went all out and strapped as many 40mm AGLs, 30mm anti-armour chainguns, 7.62 rotary guns, Inferno and ATLAS anti-tank missiles, unguided anti-armor rockets, and armor that the engines would allow, and on top of all that it's a VTOL gunship that can hover in place or circle a location for extended periods of time. It can wipe an entire company out if you use it well enough, and if you can get several you could probably take on thousands of troops at a time with little to no risk of danger. It's practically invincible to anti-aircraft guns, and it can evade and/or jam and/or hard kill SAMs. The VALV-A can also be used to shred lightly and medium armored ships to gibs, if you can make it within the anti-air perimeter, which is pretty easy if you have anti-ship missiles and know where to aim; SoMac uses anti-ship missiles liberally, so this was never a problem.

In case you're wondering, there's the VALV-T (transport) C (cargo) A (attack) AS (anti ship/submarine) E (electronic warfare) S (stealth) and a few niche others. Those are the main ones.

So it's the result of a three-way between a Warthog,, a V-22, and an AC-130? I'll take your entire stock.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:24 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Socialist Macronesia wrote:-snip'd again-

Also, ngl this makes me want to revisit some of my older mil-catalog-style writing. It's just cool seeing stuff like this.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:25 pm
by Romextly
Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:-snip'd again-

Also, ngl this makes me want to revisit some of my older mil-catalog-style writing. It's just cool seeing stuff like this.

Ypu should make a storfront selling ancient weapons

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:28 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:-snip-

So it's this?
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Nope. It's bigger than a single fighter jet, but smaller than an AC-130. That's a single rotary gun, eight missiles, 32 rockets, and no more from the looks of things. The VALV has those, probably 2x or 4x the missiles, 4x, 6x, 8x the rockets, throw two more chainguns in, and a couple 40mm AGLs/ 7.62 miniguns mounted from the doors. That's the VALV-A.

You think it would weigh a lot, but after you start firing the weight drains off quite a bit.

Brettenwald wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:
The VALV-A is the attack variant of the normal VALV. Most VALVs can be equipped with things like AGLs, MG's, rotary cannons, missiles, and rockets from the doors, but the VALV-A went all out and strapped as many 40mm AGLs, 30mm anti-armour chainguns, 7.62 rotary guns, Inferno and ATLAS anti-tank missiles, unguided anti-armor rockets, and armor that the engines would allow, and on top of all that it's a VTOL gunship that can hover in place or circle a location for extended periods of time. It can wipe an entire company out if you use it well enough, and if you can get several you could probably take on thousands of troops at a time with little to no risk of danger. It's practically invincible to anti-aircraft guns, and it can evade and/or jam and/or hard kill SAMs. The VALV-A can also be used to shred lightly and medium armored ships to gibs, if you can make it within the anti-air perimeter, which is pretty easy if you have anti-ship missiles and know where to aim; SoMac uses anti-ship missiles liberally, so this was never a problem.

In case you're wondering, there's the VALV-T (transport) C (cargo) A (attack) AS (anti ship/submarine) E (electronic warfare) S (stealth) and a few niche others. Those are the main ones.

So it's the result of a three-way between a Warthog,, a V-22, and an AC-130? I'll take your entire stock.


It took the best parts: the A-10s survivability, the V-22s CTOL and VTOL capabilities, and the AC-130's loitering ability and sheer firepower. And it's fucking glorious.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:31 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Socialist Macronesia wrote:Nope. It's bigger than a single fighter jet, but smaller than an AC-130. That's a single rotary gun, eight missiles, 32 rockets, and no more from the looks of things. The VALV has those, probably 2x or 4x the missiles, 4x, 6x, 8x the rockets, throw two more chainguns in, and a couple 40mm AGLs/ 7.62 miniguns mounted from the doors. That's the VALV-A.

You think it would weigh a lot, but after you start firing the weight drains off quite a bit.

Yeah, it would; warheads weigh quite a bit. And you're right, the comparison I drew is only superficial; iirc the VTOL VR dev said that aircraft was explicitly meant to be an A-10-sized CAS VTOL.

It took the best parts: the A-10s survivability, the V-22s CTOL and VTOL capabilities, and the AC-130's loitering ability and sheer firepower. And it's fucking glorious.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT-

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:35 pm
by Main Nation Ministry
Kiu, how's that post going? I need that wholesome action!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:36 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Main Nation Ministry wrote:Kiu, how's that post going? I need that wholesome action!

It's coming. Busy IRL, gimme a bit.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:42 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Somac... the fact you've used Huey Lewis for Ross' picture means that I'm watching the video for this and I'm being forced to imagine it's literally just Ross and Ari's relationship summarized. Except for the end of it.

...actually, no, if you discard the "leaving him" part then it's just the karaoke bar scene. They're even walking towards a van at the end.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:46 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:Nope. It's bigger than a single fighter jet, but smaller than an AC-130. That's a single rotary gun, eight missiles, 32 rockets, and no more from the looks of things. The VALV has those, probably 2x or 4x the missiles, 4x, 6x, 8x the rockets, throw two more chainguns in, and a couple 40mm AGLs/ 7.62 miniguns mounted from the doors. That's the VALV-A.

You think it would weigh a lot, but after you start firing the weight drains off quite a bit.

Yeah, it would; warheads weigh quite a bit. And you're right, the comparison I drew is only superficial; iirc the VTOL VR dev said that aircraft was explicitly meant to be an A-10-sized CAS VTOL.

It took the best parts: the A-10s survivability, the V-22s CTOL and VTOL capabilities, and the AC-130's loitering ability and sheer firepower. And it's fucking glorious.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT-


1. The VALV itself is, however, designed to carry quite a bit. For reference, it's internal cargo bay was designed to hold a Commissioner APC, which makes it at least bigger than a V-22. And it can mount heavier stuff via sling load. Of course, there's also the as-of-yet-unnamed attack helicopter, which is VALV but smoler... and a helicopter.

2. Except it's more like a cacophony of guns, missiles, rockets, and cannons. It's probably actually more terrifying than the BRRTTT, because it doesn't have to make strafe runs, it can keep stuff coming at you as long as it needs to.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:Somac... the fact you've used Huey Lewis for Ross' picture means that I'm watching the video for this and I'm being forced to imagine it's literally just Ross and Ari's relationship summarized. Except for the end of it.


This is just Ari and Ross in SoMac.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:49 pm
by Main Nation Ministry


Frank Cross at the Christmas Party: I appear to be in fresh hell. It reeks of a banana republic and looks like a forgotten music video that was made before I was born.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:51 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Socialist Macronesia wrote:1. The VALV itself is, however, designed to carry quite a bit. For reference, it's internal cargo bay was designed to hold a Commissioner APC, which makes it at least bigger than a V-22. And it can mount heavier stuff via sling load. Of course, there's also the as-of-yet-unnamed attack helicopter, which is VALV but smoler... and a helicopter.

2. Except it's more like a cacophony of guns, missiles, rockets, and cannons. It's probably actually more terrifying than the BRRTTT, because it doesn't have to make strafe runs, it can keep stuff coming at you as long as it needs to.

This is just Ari and Ross in SoMac.

1. If it's not named the ROL I'll be disappointed. Rotary... O... L. See? The acronym's perfect!

2. So just *BOOM*.

3. ...fuck, why is it so accurate?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:59 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:1. The VALV itself is, however, designed to carry quite a bit. For reference, it's internal cargo bay was designed to hold a Commissioner APC, which makes it at least bigger than a V-22. And it can mount heavier stuff via sling load. Of course, there's also the as-of-yet-unnamed attack helicopter, which is VALV but smoler... and a helicopter.

2. Except it's more like a cacophony of guns, missiles, rockets, and cannons. It's probably actually more terrifying than the BRRTTT, because it doesn't have to make strafe runs, it can keep stuff coming at you as long as it needs to.

This is just Ari and Ross in SoMac.

1. If it's not named the ROL I'll be disappointed. Rotary... O... L. See? The acronym's perfect!

2. So just *BOOM*.

3. ...fuck, why is it so accurate?


1. Rotary Ordinance Launcher? Rotating Ordinance Launcher? Rotary, Ordinance Light? Rotary-wing, Ordinance Light?

2. No, more like
BRRRRR BANG BANG BANG RRRRRRR PSHWWWW BANG PSHWWW RRRRRRR THUD THUD BANG BANG RRRRRR THSHWWW PSSHHHHHH THUD BANG BANG RRRRT


3. the van would be little red corvette, right?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:10 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
Socialist Macronesia wrote:
Kiu Ghesik wrote:1. If it's not named the ROL I'll be disappointed. Rotary... O... L. See? The acronym's perfect!

2. So just *BOOM*.

3. ...fuck, why is it so accurate?


1. Rotary Ordinance Launcher? Rotating Ordinance Launcher? Rotary, Ordinance Light? Rotary-wing, Ordinance Light?

2. No, more like
BRRRRR BANG BANG BANG RRRRRRR PSHWWWW BANG PSHWWW RRRRRRR THUD THUD BANG BANG RRRRRR THSHWWW PSSHHHHHH THUD BANG BANG RRRRT


3. the van would be little red corvette, right?

1. I actually like the third, not gonna lie.

2. Is it better to be feared or respected?

3. y e s

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:15 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
Kiu Ghesik wrote:
Socialist Macronesia wrote:
1. Rotary Ordinance Launcher? Rotating Ordinance Launcher? Rotary, Ordinance Light? Rotary-wing, Ordinance Light?

2. No, more like
BRRRRR BANG BANG BANG RRRRRRR PSHWWWW BANG PSHWWW RRRRRRR THUD THUD BANG BANG RRRRRR THSHWWW PSSHHHHHH THUD BANG BANG RRRRT


3. the van would be little red corvette, right?

1. I actually like the third, not gonna lie.

2. Is it better to be feared or respected?

3. y e s


1. perhaps...

2. Probably respected. If people fear you, they might try to take you out early.

3. take me to the place where your horses run free...

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:23 pm
by Kiu Ghesik

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:27 pm
by Socialist Macronesia

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:29 pm
by Main Nation Ministry

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:32 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
Is there a Huey Lewis discussion thread already? Because a. we have just made one, b. I think there's some bank to be made off of that.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:34 pm
by Kiu Ghesik
I just realized you can literally use any frame from any of these videos and call it Ross without any of us batting an eye at it because I just associate any image of Huey Lewis with Ross

Somac beach party - Pt. 2

Socialist Macronesia wrote:Is there a Huey Lewis discussion thread already? Because a. we have just made one, b. I think there's some bank to be made off of that.

No, it's a John Ross discussion thread.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:40 pm
by Socialist Macronesia
I better get this thread back on track.

Anyone else think it's literally impossible to play the opening of Money For Nothing loud enough? I mean, seriously, it could be like 170 decibels and I'd still think it needed to be louder.

Andddd that could lead into Huey Lewis again. Damn it.