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Trenaka
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Founded: Aug 18, 2020
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Postby Trenaka » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:03 pm

Linkers Sha wrote:What if we just print some money and give it to macronesia ???

(OOC: Weimar Republic time)
The Kingdom of Trenaka
Königreich Trenaka

A unitary constitutional monarchy in Central Europe.
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Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

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Socialist Macronesia
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Founded: Jan 27, 2020
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Postby Socialist Macronesia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:04 pm

Navy Hill wrote:So the war bill would be,

GRAIL Losses
GRAIL Member Nations have to collectively pay 90 billion for 30,000 Fatalities
Despite 50 million recorded deaths, Zarconia Gets Nothing
Countless units expended blocking Gibraltar

GRAIL Gains
De-Escalating nuclear tensions

Opposition Losses
30,000 Men
Temporary state of emergency
Some Natural Resource Plants


Opposition Gains
189.2 Billion NSD
Knowing that they can make GRAIL bend to their will


If you'd been keeping up with the war, you'd know that it wasn't just 30,000 dead, it was 30,000 dead, and millions affected by radiation. We've uncovered 4 other plots set up by NC extremists to

- set off a Cobalt-60 salted bomb, which would have killed every single individual in SoMac and rendered it permanently inhabitable.
- use anthrax to assassinate the President
- use a hand grenade to assasinate the president
- openly murder over 40 innocent civvies

So more like

GRAIL Losses
GRAIL Member Nations have to pay 30 billion each for +30,000 Fatalities and millions affected
Zarconia has nothing to do with this war, but they are free to do as they wish.
Countless units used to block Gibraltar

GRAIL Gains
De-Escalating nuclear tensions
Positive public image
Achieving its main goal of promoting liberty, justice, and peace
Decline in international nuclear misuse (different from normal nuclear tensions)

Opposition Losses
30,000 Men, millions injured
State of emergency, which still has not ended
Natural Resource Plants destroyed, amounting to billions due to our nation's autarky policy and isolationism


Opposition Gains
189.2 Billion NSD
Knowing that they have GRAIL on their side

SO... We have a bunch of GRAIL states, supposed to promote liberty, freedom, and peace, who are refusing to pay 30 billion, even though they quite literally turned a blind eye to war crimes, who are now also planning to commit MORE war crimes by nuking an innocent nation?

How is that gonna feel on the front page of the news? Who's gonna want to be involved with you?

I'll try to get things sorted out between the two aggressors here, but even then they'll have to pay 500 billion each, which they likely cannot. But we shall see.

And again, we're isolationist. We never wanted war in the first place. All we want now is justice. Is that too much to ask? Or are you too blinded by your egos to allow yourselves to admit that you might be fighting for the wrong cause?

Because you're fighting for war criminals now, and, worse yet, you're trying to justify that.

So are you ready to send your troops in, who are going to have to gun down a bunch of unarmed soldiers? If we have to have pictures in the news of your coalition troops massacring our troops en masse, so be it. Because we aren't gonna shoot first.
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Linkers Sha
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Founded: May 21, 2020
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Postby Linkers Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:05 pm

Trenaka wrote:
Linkers Sha wrote:What if we just print some money and give it to macronesia ???

(OOC: Weimar Republic time)


Yup i meann why not muney is muney i guess
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Ministry of Health News : The Ministry of Health has started researching the causes for the increase in vision-related disorders in the populace, as the number of laser-surgeries for treating near-sightedness has skyrocketed in recent years.
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Trenaka
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Postby Trenaka » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:06 pm

(OOC: I actually didn’t know that was happening. Because of school starting again, I can’t be as active as usual. Sorry.)
The Kingdom of Trenaka
Königreich Trenaka

A unitary constitutional monarchy in Central Europe.
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Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

Bisexual atheist and social democrat.

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Zarnicovia nova
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Founded: Jun 03, 2020
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:06 pm

Linkers Sha wrote:What if we just print some money and give it to macronesia ???

uhh IDK he doesn't deserve it
and micronesia you do realize our military doesn't support GRAIL and it's policies and doesn't real give a sh** about committing war crimes and we didn't commit them
The Abrahamic Republic of Zarnicovia Nova


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Socialist Macronesia
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Founded: Jan 27, 2020
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Postby Socialist Macronesia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:09 pm

Linker Sha's news:

"Footage revealed by the military police from the now ended protest from Linker City: Police seen dragging protester in the ground to the police lines, police releases attack dog onto protester biting into someone legs, police seen throwing molotov cocktails and rocks at protester yes the police not the protester, special/new tear gas grenades the new gas somehow can go through ordinary gas mask but not mask that the police has, police seen charging, police seen firing non-lethal steel ammo at protestere using assault rifles, police seen smiling while beating protester, police seen singing and dancing at their victory against the protester"

ZN:
"and micronesia you do realize our military doesn't support GRAIL and it's policies and doesn't real give a sh** about committing war crimes and we didn't commit them"

NAVY HILL:
"Have you ever wanted to have the best propaganda curtailed to your needs? To keep your deranged people docile? To crush your varied oppositions with words and power?

Well! Our propoganda department will give you the Absolute best propaganda that you could ask for!

Fill out these forms and we'll deliver our propaganda to you discreetly without worry"


So... you think I'm the bad guy here?
Currently in the process of revamping all of my lore, including my signature. It's gonna probably take a while, better make yourself comfortable.

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Linkers Sha
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Founded: May 21, 2020
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Postby Linkers Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:11 pm

Socialist Macronesia wrote:Linker Sha's news:

"Footage revealed by the military police from the now ended protest from Linker City: Police seen dragging protester in the ground to the police lines, police releases attack dog onto protester biting into someone legs, police seen throwing molotov cocktails and rocks at protester yes the police not the protester, special/new tear gas grenades the new gas somehow can go through ordinary gas mask but not mask that the police has, police seen charging, police seen firing non-lethal steel ammo at protestere using assault rifles, police seen smiling while beating protester, police seen singing and dancing at their victory against the protester"

ZN:
"and micronesia you do realize our military doesn't support GRAIL and it's policies and doesn't real give a sh** about committing war crimes and we didn't commit them"

NAVY HILL:
"Have you ever wanted to have the best propaganda curtailed to your needs? To keep your deranged people docile? To crush your varied oppositions with words and power?

Well! Our propoganda department will give you the Absolute best propaganda that you could ask for!

Fill out these forms and we'll deliver our propaganda to you discreetly without worry"


So... you think I'm the bad guy here?


Well...shit
Linkers Sha
"For a greater Linkers Sha !!!"
For an armed, free and equal Linkers Sha !!!
Ministry of Health News : The Ministry of Health has started researching the causes for the increase in vision-related disorders in the populace, as the number of laser-surgeries for treating near-sightedness has skyrocketed in recent years.
News From Egypt: Egyptians from British and American-occupied territories of Egypt have now been granted permission to meet their families and loved ones separated from them in Linkers Sha-occupied Egypt. However, residents of LS-occupied Egypt have still not been granted permission to leave the region.
lots of Thanks and credits for New Carthagea

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Zarnicovia nova
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Posts: 10209
Founded: Jun 03, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:11 pm

Socialist Macronesia wrote:Linker Sha's news:

"Footage revealed by the military police from the now ended protest from Linker City: Police seen dragging protester in the ground to the police lines, police releases attack dog onto protester biting into someone legs, police seen throwing molotov cocktails and rocks at protester yes the police not the protester, special/new tear gas grenades the new gas somehow can go through ordinary gas mask but not mask that the police has, police seen charging, police seen firing non-lethal steel ammo at protestere using assault rifles, police seen smiling while beating protester, police seen singing and dancing at their victory against the protester"

ZN:
"and micronesia you do realize our military doesn't support GRAIL and it's policies and doesn't real give a sh** about committing war crimes and we didn't commit them"

NAVY HILL:
"Have you ever wanted to have the best propaganda curtailed to your needs? To keep your deranged people docile? To crush your varied oppositions with words and power?

Well! Our propoganda department will give you the Absolute best propaganda that you could ask for!

Fill out these forms and we'll deliver our propaganda to you discreetly without worry"


So... you think I'm the bad guy here?

we kinda spent too much on our military and it's now too powerful so we kinda lack control of it anyways we're semi able to control from doing it's just there generals don't support GRAIL they support zarnicoiva nova .
The Abrahamic Republic of Zarnicovia Nova


Free Palestine!


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Trenaka
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Founded: Aug 18, 2020
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Postby Trenaka » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:12 pm

Socialist Macronesia wrote:Linker Sha's news:

"Footage revealed by the military police from the now ended protest from Linker City: Police seen dragging protester in the ground to the police lines, police releases attack dog onto protester biting into someone legs, police seen throwing molotov cocktails and rocks at protester yes the police not the protester, special/new tear gas grenades the new gas somehow can go through ordinary gas mask but not mask that the police has, police seen charging, police seen firing non-lethal steel ammo at protestere using assault rifles, police seen smiling while beating protester, police seen singing and dancing at their victory against the protester"

ZN:
"and micronesia you do realize our military doesn't support GRAIL and it's policies and doesn't real give a sh** about committing war crimes and we didn't commit them"

NAVY HILL:
"Have you ever wanted to have the best propaganda curtailed to your needs? To keep your deranged people docile? To crush your varied oppositions with words and power?

Well! Our propoganda department will give you the Absolute best propaganda that you could ask for!

Fill out these forms and we'll deliver our propaganda to you discreetly without worry"


So... you think I'm the bad guy here?

Did I ever say that? No.
The Kingdom of Trenaka
Königreich Trenaka

A unitary constitutional monarchy in Central Europe.
Anthem
Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

Bisexual atheist and social democrat.

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Zarnicovia nova
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Founded: Jun 03, 2020
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:13 pm

so we're able to control them from committing war crimes well used too like we said we're in debt and our government is too large and in too much debt to tempt to stop it right now tho there are many improvements over the last few mounths.
The Abrahamic Republic of Zarnicovia Nova


Free Palestine!


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Socialist Macronesia
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Postby Socialist Macronesia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:16 pm

Trenaka, you're openly allied with ZN. So you are actively ignoring war crimes they have committed.

How did any of you make it into GRAIL?
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Linkers Sha
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Founded: May 21, 2020
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Postby Linkers Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:17 pm

Socialist Macronesia wrote:Trenaka, you're openly allied with ZN. So you are actively ignoring war crimes they have committed.

How did any of you make it into GRAIL?


Because of Big military maybe can help GRAIL kick asses
Linkers Sha
"For a greater Linkers Sha !!!"
For an armed, free and equal Linkers Sha !!!
Ministry of Health News : The Ministry of Health has started researching the causes for the increase in vision-related disorders in the populace, as the number of laser-surgeries for treating near-sightedness has skyrocketed in recent years.
News From Egypt: Egyptians from British and American-occupied territories of Egypt have now been granted permission to meet their families and loved ones separated from them in Linkers Sha-occupied Egypt. However, residents of LS-occupied Egypt have still not been granted permission to leave the region.
lots of Thanks and credits for New Carthagea

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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:17 pm

Socialist Macronesia wrote:Trenaka, you're openly allied with ZN. So you are actively ignoring war crimes they have committed.

How did any of you make it into GRAIL?

we don't support what the army did and when we joined the army was under controlled.
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Trenaka
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Postby Trenaka » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:18 pm

I do not support Zarnicovia Nova with everything. I honestly have no clue why Empirical Switzerland let an authoritarian state into GRAIL, when this alliance is about democracy.
The Kingdom of Trenaka
Königreich Trenaka

A unitary constitutional monarchy in Central Europe.
Anthem
Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

Bisexual atheist and social democrat.

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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:19 pm

Trenaka wrote:I do not support Zarnicovia Nova with everything. I honestly have no clue why Empirical Switzerland let an authoritarian state into GRAIL, when this alliance is about democracy.

I'm not authoritarian
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Linkers Sha
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Postby Linkers Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:19 pm

Trenaka wrote:I do not support Zarnicovia Nova with everything. I honestly have no clue why Empirical Switzerland let an authoritarian state into GRAIL, when this alliance is about democracy.


Hahaha i have no idea too
Linkers Sha
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For an armed, free and equal Linkers Sha !!!
Ministry of Health News : The Ministry of Health has started researching the causes for the increase in vision-related disorders in the populace, as the number of laser-surgeries for treating near-sightedness has skyrocketed in recent years.
News From Egypt: Egyptians from British and American-occupied territories of Egypt have now been granted permission to meet their families and loved ones separated from them in Linkers Sha-occupied Egypt. However, residents of LS-occupied Egypt have still not been granted permission to leave the region.
lots of Thanks and credits for New Carthagea

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Broader Confederate States
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Postby Broader Confederate States » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:20 pm

Socialist Macronesia wrote:How did any of you make it into GRAIL?

I kind of agree there. Navy Hill seems to me like the exact kind of thing GRAIL is against.
Also, we didn't exist until 2040, so we can't have participated in the SoMac-NC war.
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Trenaka
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Postby Trenaka » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:22 pm

My usual canon is 2045.
The Kingdom of Trenaka
Königreich Trenaka

A unitary constitutional monarchy in Central Europe.
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Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

Bisexual atheist and social democrat.

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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:23 pm

the military unforchinatly in the choas of a civil war competed war crimes mainly to prevent the advance of enemy armies and almost all war crimes the army committed we're non intenchinal.
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Linkers Sha
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Postby Linkers Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:25 pm

I mean we never do any war crimes unless using napalm is one
Linkers Sha
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For an armed, free and equal Linkers Sha !!!
Ministry of Health News : The Ministry of Health has started researching the causes for the increase in vision-related disorders in the populace, as the number of laser-surgeries for treating near-sightedness has skyrocketed in recent years.
News From Egypt: Egyptians from British and American-occupied territories of Egypt have now been granted permission to meet their families and loved ones separated from them in Linkers Sha-occupied Egypt. However, residents of LS-occupied Egypt have still not been granted permission to leave the region.
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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:25 pm

Linkers Sha wrote:I mean we never do any war crimes unless using napalm is one

it is by the WA
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Trenaka
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Postby Trenaka » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:26 pm

We do not commit war crimes, in any way or form.
The Kingdom of Trenaka
Königreich Trenaka

A unitary constitutional monarchy in Central Europe.
Anthem
Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.

Bisexual atheist and social democrat.

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Linkers Sha
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Postby Linkers Sha » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:27 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Linkers Sha wrote:I mean we never do any war crimes unless using napalm is one

it is by the WA

SHITTTTTTTTT
Linkers Sha
"For a greater Linkers Sha !!!"
For an armed, free and equal Linkers Sha !!!
Ministry of Health News : The Ministry of Health has started researching the causes for the increase in vision-related disorders in the populace, as the number of laser-surgeries for treating near-sightedness has skyrocketed in recent years.
News From Egypt: Egyptians from British and American-occupied territories of Egypt have now been granted permission to meet their families and loved ones separated from them in Linkers Sha-occupied Egypt. However, residents of LS-occupied Egypt have still not been granted permission to leave the region.
lots of Thanks and credits for New Carthagea

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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:27 pm

Trenaka wrote:My usual canon is 2045.

mine is the late 2049s the zarnicovian novan civil war was in the years of late 2048 and early 2049 BTW
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Zarnicovia nova
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:27 pm

GTG bye
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