GRAIL Council Discussion Room (IC: GRAIL Members only!)

[Empirical Switzerland]

Everybody please welcome Palmyrion!

[Palmyrion]

"Is this purchase of slaves by a private entity? Or was it done by state agents of Kamilistan?" asked Mrs. Magtanggol-Reyes about Kamilistan's purchase of probe-slaves from Tupeia.

And this was a familiar theme for Elizabeth herself, a 55-year-old woman whose son was an officer serving in the currently raging war in New Sandau - the successor state to a nation that had the same abhorrent practices as Tupeia when it came to slaves.

[Empirical Switzerland]

"Is this purchase of slaves by a private entity? Or was it done by state agents of Kamilistan?" asked Mrs. Magtanggol-Reyes about Kamilistan's purchase of probe-slaves from Tupeia.

And this was a familiar theme for Elizabeth herself, a 55-year-old woman whose son was an officer serving in the currently raging war in New Sandau - the successor state to a nation that had the same abhorrent practices as Tupeia when it came to slaves.

We do not know, but we will talk to them as soon as they are online.

[Palmyrion]

"Is this purchase of slaves by a private entity? Or was it done by state agents of Kamilistan?" asked Mrs. Magtanggol-Reyes about Kamilistan's purchase of probe-slaves from Tupeia.

And this was a familiar theme for Elizabeth herself, a 55-year-old woman whose son was an officer serving in the currently raging war in New Sandau - the successor state to a nation that had the same abhorrent practices as Tupeia when it came to slaves.

We do not know, but we will talk to them as soon as they are online.

Hearing this, Elizabeth had more than enough reason to suspect something more sinister, something more insidious: private entities serving as less-than-legal underground proxies for the state of Kamilistan. Or it was just a human trafficking ring buying the slaves in bulk.

Now, Palmyrion had extensive experience dealing with both, but while the latter was still within Palmyrion's limits of moral palatability, the former overstepped it by a visible margin, particularly in the scale that such an effort involved. "You know, Your Honour,..." Elizabeth began, pausing to allow others to listen to what she would say, "...if we don't get the answers we are looking for then this would call for a probe."

[Empirical Switzerland]

We do not know, but we will talk to them as soon as they are online.

Hearing this, Elizabeth had more than enough reason to suspect something more sinister, something more insidious: private entities serving as less-than-legal underground proxies for the state of Kamilistan. Or it was just a human trafficking ring buying the slaves in bulk.

Now, Palmyrion had extensive experience dealing with both, but while the latter was still within Palmyrion's limits of moral palatability, the former overstepped it by a visible margin, particularly in the scale that such an effort involved. "You know, Your Honour,..." Elizabeth began, pausing to allow others to listen to what she would say, "...if we don't get the answers we are looking for then this would call for a probe."

"What do you mean by a probe?"

[Intergalactic Catholic Republic]

We do not know, but we will talk to them as soon as they are online.

Hearing this, Elizabeth had more than enough reason to suspect something more sinister, something more insidious: private entities serving as less-than-legal underground proxies for the state of Kamilistan. Or it was just a human trafficking ring buying the slaves in bulk.

Now, Palmyrion had extensive experience dealing with both, but while the latter was still within Palmyrion's limits of moral palatability, the former overstepped it by a visible margin, particularly in the scale that such an effort involved. "You know, Your Honour,..." Elizabeth began, pausing to allow others to listen to what she would say, "...if we don't get the answers we are looking for then this would call for a probe."

“This purchase was made by the state, more specifically higher ranking state entities in the kamalistanian order, More specifically ministers.” Dunning looks at his reports frantically for more information on the topic. “This display of thraldom is detestable, and must be persecuted swiftly and mercilessly”. Dunnings breath would be paced at this point. After asserting his point firmly and hastily.

[Greatdux]

You know what.. “Lesser” Kamilistan’s flag is about to be cooked in the oven, thrown in the trash, and get salty.

- Mikhail Jáhannes
(note: this isn’t flaming, god help me)

[Trenaka]

Hearing this, Elizabeth had more than enough reason to suspect something more sinister, something more insidious: private entities serving as less-than-legal underground proxies for the state of Kamilistan. Or it was just a human trafficking ring buying the slaves in bulk.

Now, Palmyrion had extensive experience dealing with both, but while the latter was still within Palmyrion's limits of moral palatability, the former overstepped it by a visible margin, particularly in the scale that such an effort involved. "You know, Your Honour,..." Elizabeth began, pausing to allow others to listen to what she would say, "...if we don't get the answers we are looking for then this would call for a probe."

“This purchase was made by the state, more specifically higher ranking state entities in the kamalistanian order, More specifically ministers.” Dunning looks at his reports frantically for more information on the topic. “This display of thraldom is detestable, and must be persecuted swiftly and mercilessly”. Dunnings breath would be paced at this point. After asserting his point firmly and hastily.

This is entirely against our principles! We must do something about this!

[Empirical Switzerland]

“This purchase was made by the state, more specifically higher ranking state entities in the kamalistanian order, More specifically ministers.” Dunning looks at his reports frantically for more information on the topic. “This display of thraldom is detestable, and must be persecuted swiftly and mercilessly”. Dunnings breath would be paced at this point. After asserting his point firmly and hastily.

This is entirely against our principles! We must do something about this!

"I assure you fellow liberty lovers, we shall, I have sent the president of Kamilistan a message, hopefully he responds soon enough. We may just have to kick a nation from GRAIL, or force their hand to never do it again. Either way, we will make a decision as one.

[Zarnicovia nova]

"Comrade Lord Bodie, i now have shocking news! Someone in Kamilistan order slaves from TUPEIA!"
~ Andrei, shocked

the empirical swiss government orders slaves if I'm correct

[Empirical Switzerland]

"Comrade Lord Bodie, i now have shocking news! Someone in Kamilistan order slaves from TUPEIA!"
~ Andrei, shocked

the empirical swiss government orders slaves if I'm correct

What the heck NO! /skip

[Zarnicovia nova]

the empirical swiss government orders slaves if I'm correct

What the heck NO! /skip

if my sources in the department of trade in the phastastan goerement are correct you did

[Empirical Switzerland]

What the heck NO! /skip

if my sources in the department of trade in the phastastan goerement are correct you did

"I bought them once, and I freed them all. That's the only reason why I did. I freed about 750,000 slaves."

[Zarnicovia nova]

if my sources in the department of trade in the phastastan goerement are correct you did

"I bought them once, and I freed them all. That's the only reason why I did. I freed about 750,000 slaves."

750,000 slaves? (I read it. it was 75 to 80 k not 750 k)

[Empirical Switzerland]

"I bought them once, and I freed them all. That's the only reason why I did. I freed about 750,000 slaves."

750,000 slaves? (I read it. it was 75 to 80 k not 750 k)

OOC: sorry, I meant that, but nonetheless I freed them all. That's why I bought them. I was trying to sell them out as well, we don't need to further discuss this.

[Palmyrion]

if my sources in the department of trade in the phastastan goerement are correct you did

"I bought them once, and I freed them all. That's the only reason why I did. I freed about 750,000 slaves."

Flabbergasted at what she heard, Elizabeth had to make a stand, and make a stand she did.

"You do realise, Your Honour, that your well-intentioned act of buying slaves for the purpose of freeing them..." Elizabeth said, pausing to let the horror of their actions sink in, "...has only fueled the demand for slavery and given the slave traders even more money with which to fund their activities?" she remarked, sternly. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and you, Your Honour, have paved it."

Now the Royal Commonwealth was obligated by the Amistad Declaration to declare war on any slaver state it encountered, and although Palmyrion was not one to take brash action it had to take action nonetheless - and action in the underworld it did, as deniable assets were already at play.

[Empirical Switzerland]

"I bought them once, and I freed them all. That's the only reason why I did. I freed about 750,000 slaves."

Flabbergasted at what she heard, Elizabeth had to make a stand, and make a stand she did.

"You do realise, Your Honour, that your well-intentioned act of buying slaves for the purpose of freeing them..." Elizabeth said, pausing to let the horror of their actions sink in, "...has only fueled the demand for slavery and given the slave traders even more money with which to fund their activities?" she remarked, sternly. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and you, Your Honour, have paved it."

"I only realized after I did so, however I saw they said the first sale would get extra money off, so I would take advantage of it. I plan not to buy slaves for this purpose again, thanks for telling me. We will find a way to free them sometime...I thought I may sell them out with how many I asked for."

[Empirical Switzerland]

(OOC: The place I freed the slaves from is now an ex nation anyways, no more slave selling for them.)

[Zarnicovia nova]

we request from GRAIL humanitarian support. as offer the last week over 50,000 acres burned in a recorded fire. over 56,000 people have been displaced and 45 dead 87 missing. the fire is near a population center with over 4.5 million people being at risk of losing their homes. another disaster is imminent, as hurricane meliskaa approaches the coast.

[Empirical Switzerland]

we request from GRAIL humanitarian support. as offer the last week over 50,000 acres burned in a recorded fire. over 56,000 people have been displaced and 45 dead 87 missing. the fire is near a population center with over 4.5 million people being at risk of losing their homes. another disaster is imminent, as hurricane meliskaa approaches the coast.

(OOC: I would love to help, however this doesn't belong with GRAIL. GRAIL is strictly for fighting for human rights, and secondly helping member states. I will make a Humanitarian aid GRAIL thread where we can add that, so you can get help.)

[Zarnicovia nova]

we request from GRAIL humanitarian support. as offer the last week over 50,000 acres burned in a recorded fire. over 56,000 people have been displaced and 45 dead 87 missing. the fire is near a population center with over 4.5 million people being at risk of losing their homes. another disaster is imminent, as hurricane meliskaa approaches the coast.

(OOC: I would love to help, however this doesn't belong with GRAIL. GRAIL is strictly for fighting for human rights, and secondly helping member states. I will make a Humanitarian aid GRAIL thread where we can add that, so you can get help.)

ok ty can you tell me when it's made (with link)

[Empirical Switzerland]

(OOC: I would love to help, however this doesn't belong with GRAIL. GRAIL is strictly for fighting for human rights, and secondly helping member states. I will make a Humanitarian aid GRAIL thread where we can add that, so you can get help.)

ok ty can you tell me when it's made (with link)

(OOC: I will. There will be different branches of GRAIL, humanitarian aid included, so I will notify everybody when done.)

[Ikheria]

All Representative, we confirm, Kamilistan are former member of Minsk International Defence and Economic Alliance. As them buy slaves from Tupeia, we thank god for make Kamilistan withdrawing its MIDEC membership so long before this happened.

~ Andrei

[Greater Kamilistan]

All Representative, we confirm, Kamilistan are former member of Minsk International Defence and Economic Alliance. As them buy slaves from Tupeia, we thank god for make Kamilistan withdrawing its MIDEC membership so long before this happened.

~ Andrei

*Cough Cough*
"Long ago? , Long ago , what nonsense is this , we withdraw it like 4 years ago , and....no , we do not order any slaves , we denind any of these , Greater Kamilistan order slaves blah blah blah"

Leokev took an pause to catch his breath , he knew all of these but who is spying on Kamilistan , he look at the Ikherian Abssador , literally Pissed off like serious Pissed off.

"And....if another person calls Lesser Kamilistan will get an nice whacking from me" Said Leokev as he fist smack the table

[Empirical Switzerland]

~ Andrei

*Cough Cough*
"Long ago? , Long ago , what nonsense is this , we withdraw it like 4 years ago , and....no , we do not order any slaves , we denind any of these , Greater Kamilistan order slaves blah blah blah"

Leokev took an pause to catch his breath , he knew all of these but who is spying on Kamilistan , he look at the Ikherian Abssador , literally Pissed off like serious Pissed off.

"And....if another person calls Lesser Kamilistan will get an nice whacking from me" Said Leokev as he fist smack the table

"Then why are there records of you buying from the Tuepians?"