by Athara Magarat » Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:54 am
by New Aapelistan » Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:41 am
by Almorea » Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:37 am
by Athara Magarat » Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:58 pm
New Aapelistan wrote:During the 1750-1800s, Aprosia was not an independent nation but under Noronican control as a colony. Either directly under Noronican rule or under an Aprosian puppet ruler and a Noronican governor-general, the detail is still to be deternined between me and Noronica. My current history is pretty much like that so take this with a grain of salt.
Aprosia was colonised by Noronica during the late 1600s and early 1700s through waging war against individual states at first and a coalition of states in the end. The individual states ceased to exist as the entirety of Aprosia was unified under one of the systems of governance said above and was an important step in creating a pan-Aprosian national consciousness. Overall, the entire Noronican colonial period of Aprosia was an important thing in the formation of pan-Aprosian nationalism and by extension, the modern ideology of Aprosian socialism.
Almorea wrote:Almorea in 1800 was barely a decade into its current republican system, and was teetering on the edge of dictatorship as the first president, Robert William Howard, ran for a fourth term in office.
By c. 1810, the domestic situation was stabilized, but Almorea was drifting into a violent naval war with Noronica. Noronica had, of course, colonized Almorea during the 17th century and independence was not achieved until 1763.
Almorea, as a young nation, would have sent delegates to this Congress with the aim of ensuring that the colonial empires of the Isles would respect its sovereignty, and also keep their markets open to Almorean goods. The outlook would have been generally anti-Noronnican.
by Athara Magarat » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:02 pm
by New Aapelistan » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:46 pm
Athara Magarat wrote:New Aapelistan wrote:During the 1750-1800s, Aprosia was not an independent nation but under Noronican control as a colony. Either directly under Noronican rule or under an Aprosian puppet ruler and a Noronican governor-general, the detail is still to be deternined between me and Noronica. My current history is pretty much like that so take this with a grain of salt.
Aprosia was colonised by Noronica during the late 1600s and early 1700s through waging war against individual states at first and a coalition of states in the end. The individual states ceased to exist as the entirety of Aprosia was unified under one of the systems of governance said above and was an important step in creating a pan-Aprosian national consciousness. Overall, the entire Noronican colonial period of Aprosia was an important thing in the formation of pan-Aprosian nationalism and by extension, the modern ideology of Aprosian socialism.Almorea wrote:Almorea in 1800 was barely a decade into its current republican system, and was teetering on the edge of dictatorship as the first president, Robert William Howard, ran for a fourth term in office.
By c. 1810, the domestic situation was stabilized, but Almorea was drifting into a violent naval war with Noronica. Noronica had, of course, colonized Almorea during the 17th century and independence was not achieved until 1763.
Almorea, as a young nation, would have sent delegates to this Congress with the aim of ensuring that the colonial empires of the Isles would respect its sovereignty, and also keep their markets open to Almorean goods. The outlook would have been generally anti-Noronnican.
Great information from both of you. Thanks.
BTW, any chance other powers could have been involved in your independence wars (not necessarily me)? By that I mean like how France, Spain and others were involved in the American Independence War.
Also, I assume you guys would be republics and fight against monarchists during the First (and possibly Second) Central Argus War?
by Townside » Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:56 am
by Athara Magarat » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:08 am
New Aapelistan wrote:
by Athara Magarat » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:18 am
Townside wrote:Spoiler contains irrelevant information I wrote but don’t have the heart to deletePre-1707 background for those who are not AM
The Chhantyal Hangate has ruled over the island for six centuries since 1066, either directly or indirectly in some parts through its tributary state - Wianamatta, which was nominally ruled over by the Ainur (Ipachi) minority. By the late 1600s, there was conflict between Wianamatta and Chhantyal, with the former struggling for freedom from the latter. Meanwhile, a swushbuckling adventuring English soldier Francis Light, comes along and decides to help the Ipachi in their fight, and they defeat the Chhantyal. Francis Light annexes some land from the Chhantyal Hangate and receives a grant of land from the grateful Wianamatta, and forms his own country - the Kingdom of Townisde. Rather than destroy the Chhantyal Hangate, they decide to let the Hangate continue in order to minimise unrest and unhappiness, on the condition that the Chhantyal Hangate enter into a confederation with Wianamatta and Townisde for the purposes of mutual defence and foreign policy. Thus by 1707, the island has three sovereign countries, although united in the realm of foreign policy and defence.
Post-1707 and the treaty and congress
The reason why I give this long and rather irrelevant background is because this is all I have for the history of Townisde.
Nothing interesting happens to Townisde after 1707 up until the late 1900s (other than the usual nerdy things I like such as infrastructure development, farming, economic growth etc). It’s a clean canvas you all can help me dirty between 1750 and 1800s in regards to the treaty and congress,
Some other potentially relevant facts (I’m making some of these up as I go, based on what has already been said):
- By 1750, the confederation is 43 years old. By 1800, the confederation is already 93 years old, enough time for it to grow stable.
- The confederation consists of three sovereign countries: Townisde, Chhantyal Hangate, and Wianamatta, united for the purposes of mutual defence and foreign policy.
- Although Francis Light was English, Townisde was a sovereign country and was never part of the British Empire.
- The Chhantyal Hangate still exists and is pretty much sovereign except in the realm of foreign policy and defence. Also, they now no longer recognise the authority of the Mahang, and the majority of Chhantyals associate less with Vendriothos (mainland Athara Magarat)
- Nevertheless, the Hangma of Chhantyal is a descendant of the Mgar dynasty.
- All three countries in the confederation are monarchies.
- Peace and stability since 1707, and mutual interests and work between the three countries solidified their trust as well as reliance on one another. Marriages between the Whites, Chhantyals, and Ainur create a more cohesive society. While the three people groups maintain distinct identities it becomes easier for them to mutually associate with a pan-island identity and a form of Insular Nationalism is born, prioritising the interests of all three countries equally, and protecting them from other countries outside the confederation.
- Delegates to the Congress would thus try to protect the sovereignty of all three countries against the colonial empires of TWI.
- Townisde does not have any special relationship with any particular TWI nation, so it’ll act without fear or favour towards any particular nation.
- Nevertheless, extreme sectors of each country existed. White Nationalists wanted to expel and massacre the Chhantyals and Ainur to create a white Christian island. Ainur Nationalists believed the islands were originally Ainur and should return to that.
- Chhantyal Nationalists wanted to dominate the Ainur and Whites and install the Mgar Hangma of Chhantyal as the all powerful Mahang. As the other hangates fell, the Chhantyal Hangate endured, making these extreme Chhantyal nationalists believe that they are somehow superior to the other hangates and thus their Hangma deserved to be Mahang (not least because of her Mgar bloodj
by Athara Magarat » Wed Dec 25, 2019 5:30 am
by The Aziran Islands » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:22 am
by Austrovik-Germania » Wed Dec 25, 2019 7:34 am
The Aziran Islands wrote:I'm thinking that by the mid 19th century, the Aziran Empire would be weak and stagnant, and many nation's would be carving up imperial territory into spheres of influence, and using various royal houses and military factions as proxies. This would break out into a civil war in the 1860s-1870s, which would essentially be a proxy war between several nations. The war would end with an Austrovya-backed faction winning, and would lead to Aziria becoming an Austrovyan colony
by Athara Magarat » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:35 pm
Almorea wrote:Aha, thank you for noticing my civil war from 1861 to 1864. Any foreign intervention is welcomed.
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