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Posted: **Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:39 pm**

I've decided to rework the canon of my nation, Crisac, to turn it into an enclave surrounded by another state willing to provide some land and willing to share borders with me.

I have nothing to offer other than the potential that this deal could create opportunities for coordinated roleplays and provide an interesting feature for your own canon by having a close, small, progressive, and supported neighbor within your borders.

If this sounds interesting to you, please do review the following requirements/conditions/terms for this arrangement before posting your application:

1. Crisac should be treated as existing and part of the host state's canon. Since my nation will be entirely surrounded by yours, you have to treat me as if Crisac was existing simultaneously with your nation and in your roleplay world-view. That said, the host nation should not be a closed roleplaying nation and or belong to a closed roleplay world but be open to and part of the wider NS multiverse/dimension.
2. Crisac is a Modern-Tech Nation and can be PMT. The host nation will be a human civilization.
3. Crisac will be about ~~115~~ 47 square kilometers, land area wise that is. We prefer flat lands, with ample vegetation/forests. No need to have us near a coast, though I should warn you as early as now I plan to negotiate leasing a port from your nation which I will link by rail or road to Crisac.
4. It has to be geographically located near an economically strong/vibrant/developed region of the host state, because Crisac will be a rich city-state. Supply chains, road, and rail connections are vital and preferred to rationalize our canons.
5. Crisac will have a population of 2.4 million people
6. Crisac will not pose a military/security threat. We are more focused on tourism, casinos, banking and finance, trade etc. We have a police force and a military but will not be problem.
7. Crisac does not have an official state religion nor will we adopt one.
8. Crisac, will not be a heavy polluter. Ours is a green city.
9. Crisac will be importing a lot of products from you.
10. Crisac will hopefully have immigration and customs agreement with the host nation.
11. I will never roleplay taking a combative position against the host nation, military or otherwise. This rule will be waived if the host nation attacks Crisac or undermines Crisac's independence and security.
12. If the host nation will prefer a physical border, say a fence or a wall, I will be okay with that.
13. Crisac, will be a friend of the host nation. We will support your policies, positions in the international community so long as they do not run contrary to ours. That said, the host nation should not expect Crisac to be a puppet or colony of its own. I will still decide on the laws, policies, events and reactions of Crisac and everyone within it.

If these are agreeable, please telegram my nation the following details:

Nation Name:
Have you read the terms and conditions of the agreement in the forums?:
Do you agree with the terms and conditions of the agreement in the forums?:
What made you interested in the set-up, why do you want Crisac to be an enclave within your nation?:
Do you have other comments or suggestions?:

If you have questions, you can post below or telegram me also.

Thanks! I hope to decide by 14 October depending on the number of responses I receive.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:33 am**

I would say I'm interested, as this island nation (or to be more accurate, the DEAT'd account this one replaced) originally shared a northwestern land border with a far smaller state, which broke away more than a thousand years ago, was thereafter involved in hundreds of years of cold war that got settled only when its economic and technological progress outstripped this nation in the nineteenth century, enabling it to offer money and military hardware in return for things I have long forgotten... yeah, I discarded that a long time ago, as trying to learn Arabic was too much for me.

However, as you can see with the above description, it's not exactly the sort of thing you're looking for, as this nation is supposed to be underdeveloped, if in unique ways -- for instance, windup technology of the sort you'll see here powers all sorts of appliances and vehicles, thanks to serious efforts at R&D, first in the '50s, then from the '80s onwards.

So let's say that if you have no other options, and can put up with a moderate amount of compromise to your vision of a nation, feel free to shoot me a TG or something, even as I pull the rug from under you with this invitation to your invitation.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:16 am**

I am also interested in this, as it would provide plenty of potential conflict for my canon and a place for intrigue and economic activity. Sandau-Nikolsburg is very nationalistic and fiercely holds onto its traditional conservative values. So a enclave with differing values neighboring us would be for some intriguing interaction. Sanday-Nikolsburg is both coastal, mountainous and agrarian and is surrounded by beautiful forests.

Perhaps you could be right beyond Hallstadt?

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:38 pm**

Duhon wrote:I would say I'm interested, as this island nation (or to be more accurate, the DEAT'd account this one replaced) originally shared a northwestern land border with a far smaller state, which broke away more than a thousand years ago, was thereafter involved in hundreds of years of cold war that got settled only when its economic and technological progress outstripped this nation in the nineteenth century, enabling it to offer money and military hardware in return for things I have long forgotten... yeah, I discarded that a long time ago, as trying to learn Arabic was too much for me.

However, as you can see with the above description, it's not exactly the sort of thing you're looking for, as this nation is supposed to be underdeveloped, if in unique ways -- for instance, windup technology of the sort you'll see here powers all sorts of appliances and vehicles, thanks to serious efforts at R&D, first in the '50s, then from the '80s onwards.

So let's say that if you have no other options, and can put up with a moderate amount of compromise to your vision of a nation, feel free to shoot me a TG or something, even as I pull the rug from under you with this invitation to your invitation.

Thanks. I will keep this in mind.

Posted: **Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:39 pm**

Sandau-Nikolsburg wrote:I am also interested in this, as it would provide plenty of potential conflict for my canon and a place for intrigue and economic activity. Sandau-Nikolsburg is very nationalistic and fiercely holds onto its traditional conservative values. So a enclave with differing values neighboring us would be for some intriguing interaction. Sanday-Nikolsburg is both coastal, mountainous and agrarian and is surrounded by beautiful forests.

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Perhaps you could be right beyond Hallstadt?

Thanks for your reply! First question, isn't your nation small too? I mean, can you fit in my land requirement?

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:50 am**

some questions you might want to add the answers for to your OP:

Posted: **Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:47 pm**

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:some questions you might want to add the answers for to your OP:

1. what does the name "Crisac" mean? i know i know but the name of a place sort of determines a lot about the history and everything

2. what's the history of Crisac?

3. what's the culture of Crisac?

I haven't developed Crisac fully yet because I am waiting on an interesting player/nation to host my landlocked country. After receiving the preliminary applications, there will be succeeding conversations about other aspects of Crisac including those you mentioned, so that there will be a seamless integration of Crisac into the host's canon.

Posted: **Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:45 am**

I think I might be interested for the future RP potential.

Page has an MT population of 100 million people. It's composed of 3 major islands and several smaller ones, there's a map in my factbook. If Page were to have an enclave, it could be on the southern island of Radi where the capital is, or it could be on the mainland. Page is fairly far north in latitude. The climate on Radi would be maritime, comparable to that of London, whereas on the mainland it could be compared to Calgary if one is in the more arid East, Rekjavik in the West, and like Moscow if in the middle of the mainland. The point is, Page is a cold place so if you're looking for something tropical it's not for you.

Page was an absolute monarchy until circa 2010 when the King willingly abdicated and called for a referendum on a new Constitution, which resulted in the implementation of a democratic and socialist constitution - socialism here meaning a guaranteed right to food, housing, health care, and other needs. The Pagian economy is mixed, there is capitalism but trade unions are very strong in most industries and some institutions like health care and utilities are completely nationalized. Page is quite libertarian in terms of civil liberties - freedom of speech, freedom of the press, bodily autonomy, etc. Page doesn't have an exact IRL equivalent but it could be thought of us similar to Western European countries but more economically left and more socially libertarian. Page has peaceful relations with most of the nations of the world and has a huge tourism industry. A strong military is maintained including a small arsenal of nuclear weapons, but there has not been a major war in the last 10 years and there are no conflicts with any great powers right now.

If Page were to have Crisac as an enclave then it is open to a currency union, soft borders, and a military alliance.

Posted: **Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:56 pm**

Page wrote:I think I might be interested for the future RP potential.

Page has an MT population of 100 million people. It's composed of 3 major islands and several smaller ones, there's a map in my factbook. If Page were to have an enclave, it could be on the southern island of Radi where the capital is, or it could be on the mainland. Page is fairly far north in latitude. The climate on Radi would be maritime, comparable to that of London, whereas on the mainland it could be compared to Calgary if one is in the more arid East, Rekjavik in the West, and like Moscow if in the middle of the mainland. The point is, Page is a cold place so if you're looking for something tropical it's not for you.

Page was an absolute monarchy until circa 2010 when the King willingly abdicated and called for a referendum on a new Constitution, which resulted in the implementation of a democratic and socialist constitution - socialism here meaning a guaranteed right to food, housing, health care, and other needs. The Pagian economy is mixed, there is capitalism but trade unions are very strong in most industries and some institutions like health care and utilities are completely nationalized. Page is quite libertarian in terms of civil liberties - freedom of speech, freedom of the press, bodily autonomy, etc. Page doesn't have an exact IRL equivalent but it could be thought of us similar to Western European countries but more economically left and more socially libertarian. Page has peaceful relations with most of the nations of the world and has a huge tourism industry. A strong military is maintained including a small arsenal of nuclear weapons, but there has not been a major war in the last 10 years and there are no conflicts with any great powers right now.

If Page were to have Crisac as an enclave then it is open to a currency union, soft borders, and a military alliance.

Thank you for your interest and for offering your nation! Crisac being part of Page does look like it's gonna be interesting. Nothing seems to be too irreconcilable between Page and Crisac for the arrangement. Just a couple of quick questions:
Given our terms, are all they acceptable and workable with you?
When you said the middle portion's climate is similar to Moscow, do you mean warm, or hot, somewhat humid summers and long, cold winters?

If you'd like to discuss these further, we can do it by telegram

Posted: **Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:26 pm**

Paging Delmonte, who is also big with enclaves and the like.

As for Diarcesia, I shall review this and see if Crisac being surrounded by it could be a good fit, no pun intended.

Posted: **Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:23 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:Paging Delmonte, who is also big with enclaves and the like.

As for Diarcesia, I shall review this and see if Crisac being surrounded by it could be a good fit, no pun intended.

Thank you! I look forward to your comments

And good one!

Posted: **Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:09 pm**

Crisac wrote:
Sandau-Nikolsburg wrote:I am also interested in this, as it would provide plenty of potential conflict for my canon and a place for intrigue and economic activity. Sandau-Nikolsburg is very nationalistic and fiercely holds onto its traditional conservative values. So a enclave with differing values neighboring us would be for some intriguing interaction. Sanday-Nikolsburg is both coastal, mountainous and agrarian and is surrounded by beautiful forests.

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Perhaps you could be right beyond Hallstadt?

Thanks for your reply! First question, isn't your nation small too? I mean, can you fit in my land requirement?

Well we are more or less medium sized and surrounded by several large countries.

Posted: **Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:40 pm**

I have to tell you something before I can proceed: Diarcesia will get to control the entire planet by 2064, including Crisac if it ends up there.

In practice, at this point, its component countries retain much self-government in most aspects with the notable exception of foreign diplomacy and defense. It is more of a way to deal with a neighboring planetary power and stabilization of some major crises that occurred a few years before.

Is Crisac in Diarcesia still in consideration, or would it be ruled out?

Posted: **Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:48 pm**

Huh.

Name a state or province and we'll consider it

Posted: **Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:11 pm**

Nation Name: Diarcesia
Have you read the terms and conditions of the agreement in the forums?: Yes
Do you agree with the terms and conditions of the agreement in the forums?: Yes
What made you interested in the set-up, why do you want Crisac to be an enclave within your nation?: An opportunity to worldbuild a corner of the nation
Do you have other comments or suggestions?: As mentioned in my prior post, Diarcesia will get to control the entire planet by 2064, including Crisac by default if it ends up there. It will be located within the city of Simeopota. It is surrounded by forests with wetlands to the southwest. The city's population (including the hypothetical enclave) is 3.4 million. It is at the crossroads of a major road and rail connection to the capital city of Arcesius and the cities across the border to two other countries.

Precipitation: 2500 mm
Biome: Tropical rainforest
Average temperature: 24ºC
Elevation: 36 m
Rural population: 200000
Economically known for: Tropical fruits

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:41 pm**

Sandau-Nikolsburg wrote:
Crisac wrote:
Thanks for your reply! First question, isn't your nation small too? I mean, can you fit in my land requirement?

Well we are more or less medium sized and surrounded by several large countries.

Would your area permit the land requirement I mentioned?

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:42 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:I have to tell you something before I can proceed: Diarcesia will get to control the entire planet by 2064, including Crisac if it ends up there.

In practice, at this point, its component countries retain much self-government in most aspects with the notable exception of foreign diplomacy and defense. It is more of a way to deal with a neighboring planetary power and stabilization of some major crises that occurred a few years before.

Is Crisac in Diarcesia still in consideration, or would it be ruled out?

Wait, are you FT?

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:43 pm**

Crisac wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:I have to tell you something before I can proceed: Diarcesia will get to control the entire planet by 2064, including Crisac if it ends up there.

In practice, at this point, its component countries retain much self-government in most aspects with the notable exception of foreign diplomacy and defense. It is more of a way to deal with a neighboring planetary power and stabilization of some major crises that occurred a few years before.

Is Crisac in Diarcesia still in consideration, or would it be ruled out?

Wait, are you FT?

All techs actually. My current year is 2019 and is MT, though starting inroads to PMT territory.

Posted: **Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:38 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:
Crisac wrote:
Wait, are you FT?

All techs actually. My current year is 2019 and is MT, though starting inroads to PMT territory.

Ohh.. got it. Well, I think I will have to pass for now. If Diarcesia is on track to take control of the entire planet by 2064, Crisac would have fought to maintain its independence and I think that will run against what you had in mind for your nation. Thanks though!

Posted: **Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:33 pm**

Crisac wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:
All techs actually. My current year is 2019 and is MT, though starting inroads to PMT territory.

Ohh.. got it. Well, I think I will have to pass for now. If Diarcesia is on track to take control of the entire planet by 2064, Crisac would have fought to maintain its independence and I think that will run against what you had in mind for your nation. Thanks though!

Just for the sake of completeness, I have to say that what I have in mind on that event in 2064 was that it's more like a result of nations comprising >90% of planet's area voluntarily joining Diarcesia in the aftermath of some serious global crises and contact with a neighboring planetary civilization.

Posted: **Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:01 pm**

Diarcesia wrote:
Crisac wrote:
Ohh.. got it. Well, I think I will have to pass for now. If Diarcesia is on track to take control of the entire planet by 2064, Crisac would have fought to maintain its independence and I think that will run against what you had in mind for your nation. Thanks though!

Just for the sake of completeness, I have to say that what I have in mind on that event in 2064 was that it's more like a result of nations comprising >90% of planet's area voluntarily joining Diarcesia in the aftermath of some serious global crises and contact with a neighboring planetary civilization.

Got it.. Thanks again for your interest and offering your nation for consideration.

Posted: **Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:19 pm**

Crisac wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:
Just for the sake of completeness, I have to say that what I have in mind on that event in 2064 was that it's more like a result of nations comprising >90% of planet's area voluntarily joining Diarcesia in the aftermath of some serious global crises and contact with a neighboring planetary civilization.

Got it.. Thanks again for your interest and offering your nation for consideration.

Sure thing.

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:55 pm**

Just an updated, I decided to lower my land requirement from 115 to 47 square kilometers.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:19 pm**

Posted: **Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:57 am**

Out-of-Character information: Hi Crisac! Let me know if you’re still interested.

I’m an open-minded N&I RP writer. I write with other writers from both open-world and closed-world regions. I write with just about anyone. The fictional nation of Yohannes is an established concept on NationStates National and International Roleplaying. Out-of-Character, I’m not a power writer—that is, I concentrate on storytelling and relaxed writing (with a mix of interesting trade and commerce focus), not strategic end-game win-lose scenario (Unless other writers’ nations try to bully my nation In-Character)

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