by Kreise » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:04 am
by Haring Bayang Katagalugan » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:36 am
The Repúbliká
of
❀ HARING BAYANG KATAGALUGAN ❁
❀ "Isáng Watawat, Isáng Bansá, Isáng Wikà!" ❁
☭ Heneral ♞ of The Srivijayan Consortium ☭
by Haring Bayang Katagalugan » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:35 am
The Repúbliká
of
❀ HARING BAYANG KATAGALUGAN ❁
❀ "Isáng Watawat, Isáng Bansá, Isáng Wikà!" ❁
☭ Heneral ♞ of The Srivijayan Consortium ☭
by United Auroran Empire » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:39 pm
by Camelone » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:05 pm
by De Scali » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:23 pm
by Kuronami » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:41 am
by Kreise » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:39 am
Haring Bayang Katagalugan wrote:Seeing that your government is having a hard time to wrap their head around the concept of having a female ruler, HBK would send representatives to convince the government that a female ruler would be beneficial.
United Auroran Empire wrote:I would like to be involved! I would like to think I would play the role of presenting a long-lost pretender to the throne. The UAE would present a man of your country's origin and produce document after document(which may or may not be forged) that he is the bastard child of the previous Duke. Political shenanigans insure. The man would be accompanied by a diplomat who would play the political ball game in tandem with the pretender( who may not actually be from the region at all).
Camelone wrote:I could play one of two scenarios, or both, one being a low ranking Camelonean noble who is a part of a far removed cadet branch of the destroyed previous family or a prestigious member of a patrician family within the Christhold Commonwealth, a vassal republic of the High Kingdom and the only Protestant area in Camelone, who has a small amount of the previous ruling families blood in his veins through a marriage a century or so ago. I could do both as well.
De Scali wrote:I would be in filling the role of a member of my nation (which would be a neighbor)'s royal family with our two houses having close familial ties. Sent by the king to be his eye in the situation.
Kuronami wrote:I'd be interested in showing support and helping in a smooth transition of powers in your government. This is actually almost similar to Kuronami's last succession where the Emperor left no heir so we'd be pretty helpful in this.
by Legio IX Hispania » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:06 pm
by Kreise » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:53 am
Legio IX Hispania wrote:I would like to join, perhaps by having one of my senior diplomats get in over his head by supporting one of the candidates, probably the United Auroran Empire's pretender.
by New Edom » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:40 am
by Legio IX Hispania » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by Tekistion » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:45 pm
by Haring Bayang Katagalugan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:20 pm
Tekistion wrote:Having read the IC and noticing you said there was a growing amount of people protesting for the abolition of the monarchy, I was wondering if I could join and play the role of some sort of undercover Tekisti secret police agitator that would try and destroy the people's faith in the monarchy and spread instability?
The Repúbliká
of
❀ HARING BAYANG KATAGALUGAN ❁
❀ "Isáng Watawat, Isáng Bansá, Isáng Wikà!" ❁
☭ Heneral ♞ of The Srivijayan Consortium ☭
by ChoclateTurtletopia » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:21 am
by Danceria » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:25 am
by Kreise » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:42 am
New Edom wrote:I'd like to propose that there is a member of a branch of the Edomite Royal Family (the House of Obed) descended from a Princess of Fuchsberg-Riesethal. I think that it would be interesting if this marriage took place a few generations ago, and that those descended from this princess would show an interest and put out feelers to see what happens. If you are interested, I would like to also know about economic prospects for closer ties.
by Kreise » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:52 am
Haring Bayang Katagalugan wrote:Tekistion wrote:Having read the IC and noticing you said there was a growing amount of people protesting for the abolition of the monarchy, I was wondering if I could join and play the role of some sort of undercover Tekisti secret police agitator that would try and destroy the people's faith in the monarchy and spread instability?
I'm down to do the same thing if that's cool?
by Tekistion » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:08 pm
Kreise wrote:
I have to think about this. Both of you are too vague, and I am worried that you might take it too far, like inciting riots etc. I should also note, that it would not be a secret policeman, but a spy. Also, there is really limited options here. At the moment, there is no Monarch that could be made unpopular. Rather the only line of attack is to attack the monarchists and especially the caretaker government. I suppose as actual candidates show up, criticizing them would be a good plan. Mostly though it would be a game of propaganda and misinformation. Similar to Russian interference in Western elections. Also, you must be ready to not be very successful.
by Kreise » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:18 am
Tekistion wrote:Kreise wrote:
I have to think about this. Both of you are too vague, and I am worried that you might take it too far, like inciting riots etc. I should also note, that it would not be a secret policeman, but a spy. Also, there is really limited options here. At the moment, there is no Monarch that could be made unpopular. Rather the only line of attack is to attack the monarchists and especially the caretaker government. I suppose as actual candidates show up, criticizing them would be a good plan. Mostly though it would be a game of propaganda and misinformation. Similar to Russian interference in Western elections. Also, you must be ready to not be very successful.
The goal would be to use a Stalinist-NKVD style of agitation - which is why I used the term secret policeman, rather than spy. This would include, as you said, a lot of political intrigue. The objectives would be to slowly empower the opposition while trying to eliminate unfavorable candidates.
For example in this case, you say there is a range of republican parties that have not crossed the party line of opposing the regent on both the left and the right, from right-wing populists to social democrats and radicals. One of the goals of a Tekisti network would be to try and empower the left win opposition through funding or international support to legitimize them so they can denounce the regency and the likes, and maybe try and make them form a united front (Sort of like the NKVD's efforts in Republican Spain) between the radicals and social democrats. At the same time, they may try to 'remove' opposition leaders that do not agree with the goals of Tekistion, which could have the effects of either strengthening Tekistion's stake in the matter (propping up a loyal party leader for the SocDems, for example) or weakening the opposition (accidentally splintering the party further). There is also the possibility of disseminating more propaganda in the nation if the power struggle lasts too long...
Personally I don't think this would be too over-powered. I imagine that while there could be a conflict between the republicans and the monarchists, both groups are ultimately at odds with themselves. After all, we've established that there might be several pretenders to the throne, and that the republican parties are pretty split across the spectrum. Of course we cannot make a monarch that isn't in place unpopular, but the idea is to further diminish the people's trust in the system because of the caretaker government. This would ultimately be a game of political intrigue and assassinations rather than trying to take over the government completely, and if you think that the espionage is going a little bit overboard then I can just tone it back.
by Tekistion » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:22 am
Kreise wrote:Ok, it helps to have more information, but according to Wikipedia, the NKVD operated in Spain during the Civil War and actually had prisons, they also assassinated people. That wouldn't work in Kreise, because the government is currently centrist, and assassinating a monarchist would discredit the republican movement.
by Danceria » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:26 am
by Kreise » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:34 am
Danceria wrote:Is it possible, for inheritance to occur matrilineally, that is to say, if a female member of your royal house would marry a male noble, have said male noble be "educated" or naturalized, or just kick the regency can down the road until the kid of aforementioned union is ready to take the reins?
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