Here's a good example: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520 (thanks, AM!), but in his case I would like to see really any fleshed out factbooks about his nation
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by Corindia » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:38 am
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by The Free Alliance » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:10 am
Corindia wrote:Dothrakia wrote:What type of fact books should we have for our modules, any sources/suggestions
Here's a good example: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520 (thanks, AM!), but in his case I would like to see really any fleshed out factbooks about his nation
by Corindia » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:19 pm
The Free Alliance wrote:Corindia wrote:Here's a good example: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520 (thanks, AM!), but in his case I would like to see really any fleshed out factbooks about his nation
I'll take a swing at a bit of world building over the next few days, time permitting.
Based on my issues over the last few years I have a few baselines for my nation.
1. Nuclear power and weapons.
2. A military funded space program (separate from the civilian program).
3. A information technology industry, requiring lots of satellites.
4. Huge government spending on science.
5.
I think I'll initially focus on a ICBM converted to a launch vehicle, like the Soviet R7 series of rockets, which not only got humanity into orbit, but also evolved into the Soyuz rocket.
The Alliance is supposed to be a big nation, so maybe we can provide launch facilities or something. (If I get the factbooks written)
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by Vancouvia » Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:56 pm
The Free Alliance wrote:Corindia wrote:Here's a good example: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520 (thanks, AM!), but in his case I would like to see really any fleshed out factbooks about his nation
I'll take a swing at a bit of world building over the next few days, time permitting.
Based on my issues over the last few years I have a few baselines for my nation.
1. Nuclear power and weapons.
2. A military funded space program (separate from the civilian program).
3. A information technology industry, requiring lots of satellites.
4. Huge government spending on science.
5.
I think I'll initially focus on a ICBM converted to a launch vehicle, like the Soviet R7 series of rockets, which not only got humanity into orbit, but also evolved into the Soyuz rocket.
The Alliance is supposed to be a big nation, so maybe we can provide launch facilities or something. (If I get the factbooks written)
by The Free Alliance » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:50 pm
Vancouvia wrote:The Free Alliance wrote:
I'll take a swing at a bit of world building over the next few days, time permitting.
Based on my issues over the last few years I have a few baselines for my nation.
1. Nuclear power and weapons.
2. A military funded space program (separate from the civilian program).
3. A information technology industry, requiring lots of satellites.
4. Huge government spending on science.
5.
I think I'll initially focus on a ICBM converted to a launch vehicle, like the Soviet R7 series of rockets, which not only got humanity into orbit, but also evolved into the Soyuz rocket.
The Alliance is supposed to be a big nation, so maybe we can provide launch facilities or something. (If I get the factbooks written)
You also should/need to become a member nation
by Scantarbia » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:17 pm
by Corindia » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:50 am
Scantarbia wrote:In line with my space capability revamp, Scantarbia is able to provide a module to the station. That, or the truss section.
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by Alteran Republics » Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:01 am
Corindia wrote:Scantarbia wrote:In line with my space capability revamp, Scantarbia is able to provide a module to the station. That, or the truss section.
Ironically considering your space activity I don't know if we have you down for a full module. There's the arm, panels, and I think some of the life support under your name though which is significant. One thing I wanted to add still was something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransHab or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_II, which I think would be a very achievable way for us to further expand the system if necessary, so if you're interested in that we can send one up at some point.
by Corindia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:35 pm
Alteran Republics wrote:Corindia wrote:Ironically considering your space activity I don't know if we have you down for a full module. There's the arm, panels, and I think some of the life support under your name though which is significant. One thing I wanted to add still was something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransHab or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_II, which I think would be a very achievable way for us to further expand the system if necessary, so if you're interested in that we can send one up at some point.
Altera would be on board for collaborating with a/several nations on such a module; particularly the electronics and the radiation and ballistic shielding.
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by Ioudaia » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:04 pm
by Corindia » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:10 am
Ioudaia wrote:If people can still join, I'd like to propose a microgravity applications module, for the study of making things in orbit. Ioudaia can provide that, but since I'm still working on my space program, I don't know if it'll be able to launch it.
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by Ioudaia » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:40 pm
Corindia wrote:Ioudaia wrote:If people can still join, I'd like to propose a microgravity applications module, for the study of making things in orbit. Ioudaia can provide that, but since I'm still working on my space program, I don't know if it'll be able to launch it.
I don't think we really have the capability for a dedicated module,
Corindia wrote:Ioudaia wrote:but the https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520 could certainly make microgravity experiments possible
by Corindia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:32 am
Ioudaia wrote:Corindia wrote:I don't think we really have the capability for a dedicated module,
I'm not sure I follow. What sort of capability do we lack? We seem to have people with heavy-lift launchers, and since the station seems to be modular, it's just another module to stick on to some empty attachment port.
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by Corindia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:35 am
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by Ioudaia » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:57 am
Corindia wrote:Ioudaia wrote:I'm not sure I follow. What sort of capability do we lack? We seem to have people with heavy-lift launchers, and since the station seems to be modular, it's just another module to stick on to some empty attachment port.
I think we should probably be conservative with the modules we add, this is intended to be more of a Mir size station than an ISS size one simply because us having a station is already pushing the bounds of realism.
Corindia wrote:If we were to really buckle down and audit the realism of everyone in the region, the scope of our space programs probably wouldn't be defensible, and while I don't think we should do that, I think it's best we keep in mind that we don't want to push the envelope too far on what our nations can accomplish.
Corindia wrote:It's easy to slip from MT to 15 minutes into the future. There's already going to be an inflatable module added as well, and I'd like to somewhat limit further scope creep.
Corindia wrote:The kg of LEO launch capacity per capita of this region must be at least 100 times higher than that of the real world, if we based our actual satellite tonnage off of that we'd be in a strange place.
by Corindia » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:19 pm
Ioudaia wrote:Corindia wrote:I think we should probably be conservative with the modules we add, this is intended to be more of a Mir size station than an ISS size one simply because us having a station is already pushing the bounds of realism.
OK, got it.Corindia wrote:If we were to really buckle down and audit the realism of everyone in the region, the scope of our space programs probably wouldn't be defensible, and while I don't think we should do that, I think it's best we keep in mind that we don't want to push the envelope too far on what our nations can accomplish.
Yeah, I've been trying to figure out how TWI balances fun and realism while looking at people's factbooks, and I've come to the conclusion that fun is more important. Or government spending is a far greater share of GDP than people admit.Corindia wrote:It's easy to slip from MT to 15 minutes into the future. There's already going to be an inflatable module added as well, and I'd like to somewhat limit further scope creep.
Could I get three minutes into the future?Corindia wrote:The kg of LEO launch capacity per capita of this region must be at least 100 times higher than that of the real world, if we based our actual satellite tonnage off of that we'd be in a strange place.
Right. So, any advice on how we should look at spending on space programs and/or launch capacity? Before I saw this thread, I was thinking of starting a thread on the region developing manned spaceflight, not realizing how many countries already had their own programs. Silly me.
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by Ioudaia » Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:14 pm
by Corindia » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:55 pm
Ioudaia wrote:We'd still like to contribute, so is there room in any of the planned modules for equipment for microgravity experiments? I was thinking something like Microgravity Glove Box and a rack for plugging in self-contained experiment modules.
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by Corindia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:19 am
Corindia wrote:Ioudaia wrote:We'd still like to contribute, so is there room in any of the planned modules for equipment for microgravity experiments? I was thinking something like Microgravity Glove Box and a rack for plugging in self-contained experiment modules.
There is, both external and internal!
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by Vancouvia » Fri Jan 31, 2020 11:13 pm
by Ioudaia » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:09 pm
Corindia wrote:Corindia wrote:There is, both external and internal!
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520
More specifically, the existing external racking and internal storage space would be found on this module. That said, if you want to provide your own racking then it could potentially be attached to the Brulafi made structure which the heat dissipation is mounted on, and then serviced by the ScantARM. That also gives us some more room for external experiments
by Alteran Republics » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:18 pm
by Corindia » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:29 pm
Ioudaia wrote:Corindia wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1285520
More specifically, the existing external racking and internal storage space would be found on this module. That said, if you want to provide your own racking then it could potentially be attached to the Brulafi made structure which the heat dissipation is mounted on, and then serviced by the ScantARM. That also gives us some more room for external experiments
Oooh! If there's external space, how about something like the Wake Shield Facility? Perhaps it could be mounted on a boom, and the ScantArm used to move it back to an airlock so astronauts could change the experiment modules on it.
Ioudaia wrote:Based on my extravagant spending on unmanned missions, I'm going to say that my manned space program is still under development. Since you wanted to avoid getting "15 minutes into the future" what about a spacecraft that combines technologies from previous/existing ships? For example, a heavily modifed Soyuz using the Space Shuttle's ceramic tiles for full reuseablity, and landing like the prototyped Gemini hang-glider system. It doesn't break any new scientific ground, it's just a little clever engineering. I don't think it's too different in concept from many of the weapons people are selling in the region.
Vancouvia wrote:Who is supplying the solar arrays themselves
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by Corindia » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:36 pm
Alteran Republics wrote:If we're talking about walking the line between realism and sci-fi, I guess I should stay quiet for now ...
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