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Athara Magarat
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:So the war ends with a loss for AM despite being a military stalemate. Alright. So, Athara, I didn't see a clear picture of who the communists are. What is AM's relationship with the communists, who are they, and how would the UCCR best become involved?

Ultimately, I plan for this war to be the reason the UCCR doesn't reconvene in 1994. Right now it's they "just didn't".

Communists would have initially been some radical youths and their professors plus some labor unions protesting for workers rights in Chuli.

In 1954, the Chuli Hangate (it is an extremely mountainous region that puts communist guerrillas at advantage) is over run by an alliance of various armed communist insurgents. Since Chuli had historically been the landlocked and useless Magarati region, virtually no one pays any attention to what even happened (I think even the UCCR is barely a year old at this point).

You see, after the Imperial War, the Magarat region has been divided into twelve hangates, each of whom are puppets to a different Free Powers nation. Chatha and Jaring are now fascist states like their protector San Montagna. Polar Svalbard has hegemony over the affairs of Tamuwan. Tamsaling is a vassal of Razzgriz while Dothrakia occupies Arun Valley.

The communists in Chuli rename their after ideology dominant in UCCR; like "X-ist". They rally people of other hangates with news propaganda and so on. Like "your rulers have betrayed your nation as foreign dogs" stuff.

In 1969 is when the People's Republic of Chuli is declared. By this time, the hangates with red text have fallen to communist revolutions as well and united under Chuli's leadership. The PRC continues its propaganda; portraying its forces as heroic soldiers marching to break the foreign chains of capitalist states.

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Situation in Magarat region in 70s. The red text are communist states in the People's Republic of Chuli federation.

The 70s are basically the peaceful decade with both PRC and the southern hangates now under guardianship of power blocs. In the 80s, Marubhumi, Sinja and Tamsaling have fallen to PRC supported communist revolutions one by one. Chatha and Jaring are the only ones remaining. And this blows into war in 1991 as the 30th Parallel War.

After the 30th Parallel War, the People's Republic of Chuli transitions into Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates. Its economy is now mixed market with heavy welfare schemes.
Last edited by Athara Magarat on Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Dothrakia
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Postby Dothrakia » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:14 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:So the war ends with a loss for AM despite being a military stalemate. Alright. So, Athara, I didn't see a clear picture of who the communists are. What is AM's relationship with the communists, who are they, and how would the UCCR best become involved?

Ultimately, I plan for this war to be the reason the UCCR doesn't reconvene in 1994. Right now it's they "just didn't".

Communists would have initially been some radical youths and their professors plus some labor unions protesting for workers rights in Chuli.

In 1954, the Chuli Hangate (it is an extremely mountainous region that puts communist guerrillas at advantage) is over run by an alliance of various armed communist insurgents. Since Chuli had historically been the landlocked and useless Magarati region, virtually no one pays any attention to what even happened (I think even the UCCR is barely a year old at this point).

You see, after the Imperial War, the Magarat region has been divided into twelve hangates, each of whom are puppets to a different Free Powers nation. Chatha and Jaring are now fascist states like their protector San Montagna. Polar Svalbard has hegemony over the affairs of Tamuwan. Tamsaling is a vassal of Razzgriz while Dothrakia occupies Arun Valley.

The communists in Chuli rename their after ideology dominant in UCCR; like "X-ist". They rally people of other hangates with news propaganda and so on. Like "your rulers have betrayed your nation as foreign dogs" stuff.

In 1969 is when the People's Republic of Chuli is declared. By this time, the hangates with red text have fallen to communist revolutions as well and united under Chuli's leadership. The PRC continues its propaganda; portraying its forces as heroic soldiers marching to break the foreign chains of capitalist states.

Image
Situation in Magarat region in 70s. The red text are communist states in the People's Republic of Chuli federation.

The 70s are basically the peaceful decade with both PRC and the southern hangates now under guardianship of power blocs. In the 80s, Marubhumi, Sinja and Tamsaling have fallen to PRC supported communist revolutions one by one. Chatha and Jaring are the only ones remaining. And this blows into war in 1991 as the 30th Parallel War.

After the 30th Parallel War, the People's Republic of Chuli transitions into Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates. Its economy is now mixed market with heavy welfare schemes.


I think focusing on the imperial war would be a good strategy to explain the growth of communism. The people of AM feel like the Free Powers occupying are abusing their power, (maybe have Free Power companies eliminating local companies and expanding rapidly in respective spheres of influence like U.S companies after WW2).
Because your more higher up national leaders were most likely eliminated from the war the communist leaders who were most likely more low level or not associated with the gov are able to survive and become the leaders of an "AM first" style of movement focusing on protecting the people from the Free Powers.

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Athara Magarat
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Postby Athara Magarat » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:15 am

Dothrakia wrote:


I think focusing on the imperial war would be a good strategy to explain the growth of communism. The people of AM feel like the Free Powers occupying are abusing their power, (maybe have Free Power companies eliminating local companies and expanding rapidly in respective spheres of influence like U.S companies after WW2).
Because your more higher up national leaders were most likely eliminated from the war the communist leaders who were most likely more low level or not associated with the gov are able to survive and become the leaders of an "AM first" style of movement focusing on protecting the people from the Free Powers.

Exactly!

I mentioned in my history dispatch as well that most high-level officials of the Empire of Magarat were executed or imprisoned by the Free Powers when the Imperial War ended.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:36 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:So the war ends with a loss for AM despite being a military stalemate. Alright. So, Athara, I didn't see a clear picture of who the communists are. What is AM's relationship with the communists, who are they, and how would the UCCR best become involved?

Ultimately, I plan for this war to be the reason the UCCR doesn't reconvene in 1994. Right now it's they "just didn't".

Communists would have initially been some radical youths and their professors plus some labor unions protesting for workers rights in Chuli.

In 1954, the Chuli Hangate (it is an extremely mountainous region that puts communist guerrillas at advantage) is over run by an alliance of various armed communist insurgents. Since Chuli had historically been the landlocked and useless Magarati region, virtually no one pays any attention to what even happened (I think even the UCCR is barely a year old at this point).

You see, after the Imperial War, the Magarat region has been divided into twelve hangates, each of whom are puppets to a different Free Powers nation. Chatha and Jaring are now fascist states like their protector San Montagna. Polar Svalbard has hegemony over the affairs of Tamuwan. Tamsaling is a vassal of Razzgriz while Dothrakia occupies Arun Valley.

The communists in Chuli rename their after ideology dominant in UCCR; like "X-ist". They rally people of other hangates with news propaganda and so on. Like "your rulers have betrayed your nation as foreign dogs" stuff.

In 1969 is when the People's Republic of Chuli is declared. By this time, the hangates with red text have fallen to communist revolutions as well and united under Chuli's leadership. The PRC continues its propaganda; portraying its forces as heroic soldiers marching to break the foreign chains of capitalist states.

Image
Situation in Magarat region in 70s. The red text are communist states in the People's Republic of Chuli federation.

The 70s are basically the peaceful decade with both PRC and the southern hangates now under guardianship of power blocs. In the 80s, Marubhumi, Sinja and Tamsaling have fallen to PRC supported communist revolutions one by one. Chatha and Jaring are the only ones remaining. And this blows into war in 1991 as the 30th Parallel War.

After the 30th Parallel War, the People's Republic of Chuli transitions into Athara Magarati Federation of Hangates. Its economy is now mixed market with heavy welfare schemes.

The UCCR could support the PRoC throughout the 70s and have put tons of propaganda and economic aid into the PRoC throughout the 60s as well. I'm not sure there is a dominant ideology. It's a very diverse group. But in the 70s, we could start building bases and deploying troops there. Thuzbek Marines would be useful here. So in 1991, we have been there for quite some time and helped each revolution gain ground. We would devote a lot to the war.
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Athara Magarat
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:38 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:The UCCR could support the PRoC throughout the 70s and have put tons of propaganda and economic aid into the PRoC throughout the 60s as well. I'm not sure there is a dominant ideology. It's a very diverse group. But in the 70s, we could start building bases and deploying troops there. Thuzbek Marines would be useful here. So in 1991, we have been there for quite some time and helped each revolution gain ground. We would devote a lot to the war.

Wonderful. I like where this is going :)
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Covonant - It's a different unique concept which is nice to have. I love that in TWI is not just Western modeled states but states of different cultures and ideologies which makes the RP more interesting.

Polar Svalbard - 8/10 would bang.




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Postby Thuzbekistan » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:37 am

Athara Magarat wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:The UCCR could support the PRoC throughout the 70s and have put tons of propaganda and economic aid into the PRoC throughout the 60s as well. I'm not sure there is a dominant ideology. It's a very diverse group. But in the 70s, we could start building bases and deploying troops there. Thuzbek Marines would be useful here. So in 1991, we have been there for quite some time and helped each revolution gain ground. We would devote a lot to the war.

Wonderful. I like where this is going :)

Using this, write us in as you see fit, then submit it here:) I'll talk to the gang and get back to you afterwards.
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Postby Balnik » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:55 pm

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Razzgriz
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Postby Razzgriz » Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:48 pm

Map of the Central Argus Theater:
Image

I was told I should post this here, so besides national boarders, a map key, lighting and shading effects, what should I add to this map? I want it as detailed as possible.

Side note: Tried to represent the mountains with height maps I found off google, but that didn't go so well.


-edit-

I may change the color of the PRC to a different shade of red, because for some odd reason my mind thinks of Dr.Pepper when I look at them on the map
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Athara Magarat
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Postby Athara Magarat » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:30 pm

Razzgriz wrote:Map of the Central Argus Theater:
(Image)

I was told I should post this here, so besides national boarders, a map key, lighting and shading effects, what should I add to this map? I want it as detailed as possible.

Side note: Tried to represent the mountains with height maps I found off google, but that didn't go so well.


-edit-

I may change the color of the PRC to a different shade of red, because for some odd reason my mind thinks of Dr.Pepper when I look at them on the map

Neat. Details would depend on when exactly is this map.
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Polar Svalbard - 8/10 would bang.




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Postby Razzgriz » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:32 am

Athara Magarat wrote:
Razzgriz wrote:Map of the Central Argus Theater:
(Image)

I was told I should post this here, so besides national boarders, a map key, lighting and shading effects, what should I add to this map? I want it as detailed as possible.

Side note: Tried to represent the mountains with height maps I found off google, but that didn't go so well.


-edit-

I may change the color of the PRC to a different shade of red, because for some odd reason my mind thinks of Dr.Pepper when I look at them on the map

Neat. Details would depend on when exactly is this map.

I assume 1991 as that is when the war is officially declared.
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Postby Brulafi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:35 pm

As a UCCR member, I'd like to see how this develops.
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Postby Miklania » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:56 pm

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