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Corindia
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Postby Corindia » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:29 pm

Noronica would you want your nation to be influencing corindia in this time period as well?

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Postby Noronica » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:14 am

Corindia wrote:Noronica would you want your nation to be influencing corindia in this time period as well?

If you would be fine with that then I'd be happy to! Would that have any effect on your plans for the Great Gael War?

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Postby Noronica » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:19 am

Verdon wrote:If this is the case, your chief goals would probably to curtail DS's influence in central Gael, and to undermine Verdon's plan of a fully controlled Eterna Sea. There are probably many ways to do this, but the first I can think of is to re-arm your former subject, Ostehaar.

Ostehaar wrote:Oh indeed.

That would be the plan! I might join the war slightly late then, selling arms and supplies to friendly combatants and then initiate an entrance into the war.
Thuzbekistan wrote:Ultimately I think I would ally myself with noronica as we had warmed our relations at this point. We would take a supporting role on the ground in ostehaar durung the war and engage in naval combat with verdon. Prior to the war, noronica and I would have grown closer, establishing a naval base of his on the western coast of Turvin at Barshlon in 1895.

Noronica, what do you think?

That makes sense to me! It would be an interesting addition to our relations today, as despite our cooling relations we still attend war commemorations in unity.
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Postby Corindia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:24 am

Noronica wrote:
Corindia wrote:Noronica would you want your nation to be influencing corindia in this time period as well?

If you would be fine with that then I'd be happy to! Would that have any effect on your plans for the Great Gael War?

I didn't really have too too many plans for the war, I'm not in Gael after all

could go for some sort of japan in wwi sort of thing where it's mostly pillaging overextended bases

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Postby Noronica » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:41 am

Corindia wrote:
Noronica wrote:If you would be fine with that then I'd be happy to! Would that have any effect on your plans for the Great Gael War?

I didn't really have too too many plans for the war, I'm not in Gael after all

could go for some sort of japan in wwi sort of thing where it's mostly pillaging overextended bases

If others are fine with this, then I think that would be a nice addition! Would you say that Corindia would be directly allied with Noronica due to the influence on Corindia or would there be a treaty/understanding that heavily implies Corindia's closeness to Noronnican military actions?

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Postby Corindia » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:56 am

Noronica wrote:
Corindia wrote:I didn't really have too too many plans for the war, I'm not in Gael after all

could go for some sort of japan in wwi sort of thing where it's mostly pillaging overextended bases

If others are fine with this, then I think that would be a nice addition! Would you say that Corindia would be directly allied with Noronica due to the influence on Corindia or would there be a treaty/understanding that heavily implies Corindia's closeness to Noronnican military actions?

direct alliance is fine, could be something we signed ages ago to give you some sort of "Corindia's oldest ally" mystique too like the US and France

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Postby Samudera » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:25 am

Damn. I missed this thread somehow.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Thu Sep 13, 2018 3:40 pm

Samudera wrote:Damn. I missed this thread somehow.

Be more active on the RMB ;)
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Postby Torom » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:24 pm

Torom wouldn't try to be very involved or possibly be even involved at all because GAW did things, unless someone allied to me *cough* Townside *cough* gets in the war and makes me do stuff.

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:42 pm

Lots happened here, cool. Sorry for not being around, life caught up to me and I had to take some time to settle myself in.

However, I would love to continue work on this so here’s a few things we could cover:

1) A name change: I’ve heard it said that the name of this was is beyond uncreative, and is unsuitable while the Great Argus Wars remains canon, I agree. I will be glad to hear any suggestions to a change in the name (probably to “X Years War” if we want to give it a set length, the “Republican-Verdonian War” (Republican in this context refers to Dormill-Stiuraians), or others).

2) Should we try to do an RP of this war, or should we leave it as nationbuilding? I’m mostly open to either option but I lean on the nationbuilding side considering my situation.

3) Connections between this war and other events in TWI during this time.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:51 pm

Historical rps die quickly. I would suggest keeping this at a collaboration level.
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Postby Ostehaar » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:35 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:Historical rps die quickly. I would suggest keeping this at a collaboration level.

I second this.

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Postby Athara Magarat » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:01 pm

Well, I must say this format ain't so bad (though I may be biased :P )

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=401034
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Postby Verdon » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:22 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Lots happened here, cool. Sorry for not being around, life caught up to me and I had to take some time to settle myself in.

However, I would love to continue work on this so here’s a few things we could cover:

1) A name change: I’ve heard it said that the name of this was is beyond uncreative, and is unsuitable while the Great Argus Wars remains canon, I agree. I will be glad to hear any suggestions to a change in the name (probably to “X Years War” if we want to give it a set length, the “Republican-Verdonian War” (Republican in this context refers to Dormill-Stiuraians), or others).

2) Should we try to do an RP of this war, or should we leave it as nationbuilding? I’m mostly open to either option but I lean on the nationbuilding side considering my situation.

3) Connections between this war and other events in TWI during this time.

What's wrong with the name? It's not creative, but at least it fits well. I don't see how it's unsuitable if another Great X War exists, that doesn't seem mutually exclusive to me. "X Years War" only really makes sense if there is another war in Gael of this magnitude and for the same purposes that we need to differentiate this one. I also can't really not think about European conflict when I hear it. I guess the second one works, especially since the other conflicts mentioned in the timeline are already labeled. If we go with this, I'd like it to be 'Verdonese' instead of Verdonian - I'm trying to shift demonyms.

I think historical events are better suited to RP 'accounts' similar to the citizens thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=360717
There was talk of starting one for historical stuff, I don't know if that ever got done.

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Postby Verdon » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:23 pm

Athara Magarat wrote:Well, I must say this format ain't so bad (though I may be biased :P )

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=401034

yeah, like that

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Postby Torom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:42 am

Verdon wrote:[quote="Dormill and Stiura";p="34731689"If we go with this, I'd like it to be 'Verdonese' instead of Verdonian - I'm trying to shift demonyms.

To this day, I can still see Toromish instead of Toroman

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:38 am

Verdon wrote:
Dormill and Stiura wrote:Lots happened here, cool. Sorry for not being around, life caught up to me and I had to take some time to settle myself in.

However, I would love to continue work on this so here’s a few things we could cover:



I think historical events are better suited to RP 'accounts' similar to the citizens thread viewtopic.php?f=4&t=360717
There was talk of starting one for historical stuff, I don't know if that ever got done.

That's actually an excellent idea, but the citizens thread has been used in such a manner. I also believe that the the current thread doesnt recieve enough traffic as is. Making another thread that would be less used and less viewed wouldnt make sense.
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Postby Samudera » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:03 am

I think i wouldn't be involved much in this War, since i was still partitioned into DS' and Ainslie's part. However, should the two nations wanted to use my territory as a battlefield during this war, there should be no problem. This time period is still mostly a blank slate for me.

The Independence movement of Samudera could probably be involved in some way since this could be a chance to regain their independence after sixty years of partition between Ainslie and Dormill-Stiura. The Ahnslen part of Samudera, as Ain stated earlier on, was in a heap of secession from early 1920 to 1936 where it finally granted independence. Meanwhile the DS' part of Samudera, i assume there would be a massive repercussion on the Independence movement.

The Independence movement could be leaning into Verdonese side during this war, hoping for them to 'liberate' DS' held-Samudera
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Postby Athara Magarat » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:38 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1111967

I added the Great Gael War to this list. Tell me what I did wrong please :)
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Postby Verdon » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:22 pm

Yo, I wanna go ahead and finalize some details on this - I'd like to incorporate it into my history dispatch, also potentially create a specific event dispatch.
Anyway, this is how I understand the factions to be, with borders starting at the end of the First Oster War.
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I separated out members of each faction by their involvement.
Dashed lines mark relative zones of naval control
Flames mark areas of major conflict
Guns mark flow of munitions from supportive nations
Roendavar is striped, as per it's side-switching
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Postby Razzgriz » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:37 pm

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Postby Ruios » Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:42 pm

I suppose I should get in on this in some way shape or form.
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Postby Verdon » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:41 pm

Razzgriz wrote:Well hello

Yeah, you have a conflict during this time period, right?
Ruios wrote:I suppose I should get in on this in some way shape or form.

Looks like you're still a French/Spanish dominion at this point, I'm not sure you'd be allowed to interfere - and reciprocation from non-TWI nations would be messy and something we want to avoid.

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Postby Razzgriz » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:38 am

Verdon wrote:
Razzgriz wrote:Well hello

Yeah, you have a conflict during this time period, right?
Ruios wrote:I suppose I should get in on this in some way shape or form.

Looks like you're still a French/Spanish dominion at this point, I'm not sure you'd be allowed to interfere - and reciprocation from non-TWI nations would be messy and something we want to avoid.


Yes, the Osean-Elerian War with Flandrian, assuming you'd be supporting my government during the civil war, which now involves The Oseamar Empire (razzgriz & cheoju), Elerian Empire (Flandrian), Thuriclia (Dothrakia), Nezaeva, and you as well I believe.

I figured this event would be part of the war due to Verdon's involvement our war as well as the Oseans returning the favor and joining the Great Gael War on Verdon's side as an Eterna split between Verdon and the OE was much better than one held by the UR or the Elerian Empire.

I figured the Osean-Elerian war could end in an uneasy cease-fire similar to the Korean War and a dmz set up in the South Eterna Sea, setting both Flandrian and me up for involvement in the Imperial War.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:51 am

Verdon wrote:Yo, I wanna go ahead and finalize some details on this - I'd like to incorporate it into my history dispatch, also potentially create a specific event dispatch.
Anyway, this is how I understand the factions to be, with borders starting at the end of the First Oster War.
(Image)

I separated out members of each faction by their involvement.
Dashed lines mark relative zones of naval control
Flames mark areas of major conflict
Guns mark flow of munitions from supportive nations
Roendavar is striped, as per it's side-switching
Question Mark near Samudera as potential for Verdon-allied independence movement

I like this here, it's all accurate to the situation I envisioned.

On the two questions of a Noronnican blockade and a Verdon-aligned uprising in Samudera. With Noronica, the two of us have been basically been in a naval stalemate for a while, neither of us really capable of effecting a blockade on the other but tying down a significant portion of our navies in making sure the other side doesn't grow too powerful. In Samudera, it would be fun to see Razzgriz attempt to incite an Ipachi uprising that drags the Osean-Elerian War into the wider conflict.

In addition, with the Third Central Argus War canon again, my forces are going to be spread pretty thin to fight in all of the fronts in the conflicts, maybe this could help explain the prevalence of trenches in some areas of the front, with the United Republics trying to hold their positions while their other forces are trying to do some kind of Schlieffen Plan in Central Argus or something.
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