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by West Phoenicia » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:08 pm
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Yay- 3
Emir Khanabul
Marco Aurelia
Oliver Cohn
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Arana Direnni (President)
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Viscountess Nedda Bosniaa
John Caulfeld
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by Agarntrop » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:41 am
by Kowani » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:49 pm
by Allyrije » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:02 pm
by New Giliberafta » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:03 pm
by East Ares » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:59 pm
The Terrorism Abolishment Initiative
Overview: This bill would allow an IS nation to propose the invasion of a country, but only to stop a terrorist group directly related to that country. This bill is only to be enacted after a more diplomatic agreement has already been refused. The invasion itself would be carefully regulated, with the IS making sure no more harm is done than necessary. This is in response to SHADE attacks on East Ares, a group headquartered in Kardmiam. The Kardish leader has refused a diplomatic option, and we do not want to start warSection 1: This bill, the TAI, is attempting to limit foreign terrorist groups. It allows sufficient access to groups headquartered in countries that do not want a diplomatic option.
Section 2: The TAI can only be enacted if a diplomatic option has been attempted. This Diplomatic request will be presented to the International Senate during voting.
Section 3: The majority of the International Senate required to enact TAI is 2/3. All previous discussions with the nation housing the terrorist group will be presented.
Section 4: Once the vote has been passed, and a majority has been found, the International Senate will issue a notice proclaiming its decision. The nation housing the terrorist group is able to redecide its decision at this point, and any point forward.
Section 5: An small group of Ambassadors from countries that agree will be sent along with any military personnel that the nation invoking this bill sends. This is to make sure that all military operations are appropriate to the situation, and do not cause more harm then necessary. Other nations are permitted to send military personnel.
Section 6: At any point throughout this process, the nation that is subjected to the military operations is able to commit to stopping the terrorism. If they do is this, a 30-day period is created in which all military personnel must be removed. If the International Senate decides that the nation is not doing enough to stop the terrorist group, the TAI can be reenacted with a simple majority during the vote.
This bill is then honorably presented to the International Senate for consideration in order to stop foreign terrorism, to improve the global community, and is backed by Senator Howard Akara on 6-18-18
by Kowani » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:49 pm
If a nation does not want to work with you, and you want to avoid a war, calling down the IS on their heads is not much better, as you have effectively declared war by proxy. If these terrorists are entrenched at all, or if the country is sufficiently large, it would take more than 30 days. There is no clause detailing what should happen if the terrorist organization turns out to be state-backed, and that happens quite often.
Finally, and I believe this to be the most important part, Section 6 basically gives the IS an unlimited mandate to invade these countries. Say we go to Desert Nation A. We start out actually trying to clear out the terrorists. But that requires infrastructure of a military kind, so we have to build that. Now, due to most of us being more or less humane nations, the citizens affected by this conflict will have to be taken care of. That requires even more infrastructure. All of this will most likely take more than 30 days, so an extension is granted. Now, one could make the argument that in order to protect these civilians, either more troops are needed, or the host government will have to step in. But nobody negotiates with someone who came to their country against their will, claiming “national security”. So, more troops. We expand even more, allowing for this cycle to keep repeating itself until we effectively control enough of said country for Nation A’s leaders to declare war, and look reasonable while doing so.
I am aware that most of us here would probably oppose the TAI being used in such a manner, as it goes directly against our purpose here. However, all it takes is one bad apple, and we have a few dictatorships.
by Agarntrop » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:17 am
by Allyrije » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:57 am
by Gaine Moon » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:32 am
by Nepenisea » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:50 am
Well, this is a decent bill, I'll give you that. I do think that since terrorism is so difficult to combat it might be good to have allies. One point however: Shouldn't they just handle it themselves? If we invade Kardmiam, we create an enemy. I know my politics, and I think the best thing to do is let SHADE die out. Keep them out of the IS nations, and let them fight elsewhere. I would like to see the TAI again for domestic terrorism, and keeping terrorists out. I will have to abstain.
by New Giliberafta » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:21 am
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