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Ainslie wrote:If someone hasn't said it already - you're really going to need a dispatch to explain the difference between the USSR and this, as well as to distinguish yourselves from the now defunct Union of Eastern Socialist Republics.

(I just like seeing dispatches for international organisations as well.)

Am I right to see this as a kind of Warsaw Pact thing?

You are correct in your Warsaw Pact guestimation.

So my guess on history is this:

In the years following WW2 and as the Soviet block gains power, young socialist powers in The Western Isles begin to feel the heat of the cold war as the regional attitude turns against them. So, in 1954, the UCCR is created. Unlike its warsaw pact inspiration, this doesn't become a single republic. Instead, it becomes a mutual trade, defense, and political system of alliances. Throughout the 50s and 60s, the alliance works to grow in influence and maintain its members integrity through crises like the Thuzbek Famine of 1961, the Samuderan and Keomoran Withdraw in the 70s, the collapse of Socialist Balnik in 1982, and final nail in the coffin in 1986 when orsandia falls to the Godless Captialists(tm). In 1991, the fall of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw pact decreases confidence in the UCCR. While it was not officially dismembered like its European Counterpart, it was not reaffirmed in 1994 by the two remaining members and thus died a peaceful death.

The Starting date is placed here because two of the founding members did not become socialist until the early fifties. How do you guys feel about this kind of story for the now defunct (and soon to be revived) UCCR?

I’m gonna tag. Covonant obviously wouldn’t be a part of this but I want this one to be a success as it aids in developing my foreign policy. Look forward to its development.

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Balnik would have probably been a founding member as we became socialist in 1910 (mostly resembling Juche). Balnik itself was very hardline and aligned to the ideals of Marx. In the late 70's-80's the socialist way of thought and confidence in the ideals started to wane. Balnik did not officially pull out of the alliance but was de facto eliminated from it following the Horseshoe War.

Balnik wrote:Balnik would have probably been a founding member as we became socialist in 1910 (mostly resembling Juche). Balnik itself was very hardline and aligned to the ideals of Marx. In the late 70's-80's the socialist way of thought and confidence in the ideals started to wane. Balnik did not officially pull out of the alliance but was de facto eliminated from it following the Horseshoe War.

Hmmm I would be down for Balnik actually having hosted the talks in your capital. Especially since mine would be wrecked from months of fighting in 1954. You, Weinam, and I could be founding members.

Thuzbekistan wrote:

Balnik wrote:Balnik would have probably been a founding member as we became socialist in 1910 (mostly resembling Juche). Balnik itself was very hardline and aligned to the ideals of Marx. In the late 70's-80's the socialist way of thought and confidence in the ideals started to wane. Balnik did not officially pull out of the alliance but was de facto eliminated from it following the Horseshoe War.

Hmmm I would be down for Balnik actually having hosted the talks in your capital. Especially since mine would be wrecked from months of fighting in 1954. You, Weinam, and I could be founding members.

Sounds good, Balnik would've been in an excellent state at the time so it would be perfect to accommodate journalists and diplomatic guests at the time with Rustov as the capital.

Balnik wrote:

Thuzbekistan wrote:Hmmm I would be down for Balnik actually having hosted the talks in your capital. Especially since mine would be wrecked from months of fighting in 1954. You, Weinam, and I could be founding members.

Sounds good, Balnik would've been in an excellent state at the time so it would be perfect to accommodate journalists and diplomatic guests at the time with Rustov as the capital.

Coolio. We will see who all responds on the thread.

If this is in the past, I invite the UCCR to Kaski Island Wars.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=435241&p=33814931#p33814931

It was a war between capitalist city-states and communist Hangates (eventually giving rise to dem-soc Athara Magarati Democratic Hangate).

Depends if we were using the UCCR as an outlet of projected influence or strictly defense. Personally I'm against it being a combined projection power as subversive activities and such can be done individually.

I agree on balnik

There was a failed socialist revolution in 1954 (or so.. i need to look again). Most of them were exiled, to Linaviar and probably other socialist nations. Then the years dragged on and i got into a war with Linaviar in which i lost. The peace agreement included terms about the return of many socialist to Samudera in 1963. The true revolution started again in 1965, toppling the already weak capitalist government.

The end would come in 1991 with the arrival of mass hungers (classic). International pressure forced me to abandon socialism.

So no, i joined in 1966 and left in 1992

Samudera wrote:There was a failed socialist revolution in 1954 (or so.. i need to look again). Most of them were exiled, to Linaviar and probably other socialist nations. Then the years dragged on and i got into a war with Linaviar in which i lost. The peace agreement included terms about the return of many socialist to Samudera in 1963. The true revolution started again in 1965, toppling the already weak capitalist government.

The end would come in 1991 with the arrival of mass hungers (classic). International pressure forced me to abandon socialism.

So no, i joined in 1966 and left in 1992

Cool. That works.

I guess I would be historically involved in the UCCR.

Orsandian Revolution - 1952 (Communist state established, Marxist/Stalinist dicatorship)

Not sure how our intra nation actions go, but the commies reign in Orsandia 1952-1978, when the commies are overthrown by Orsandian rebels, anti-communist neighbors, etc.

Ok Historically we have the UCCR set with it's members, formation and closure alongside that of the real Soviet Union.
A modern day equivalent is tricky as most members of the UCCR broke away into other treaties, groups and pacts. I would love a modern day version I am unsure of how many members would be present. I'm thinking about 3-4 ?

Weinam wrote:Ok Historically we have the UCCR set with it's members, formation and closure alongside that of the real Soviet Union.
A modern day equivalent is tricky as most members of the UCCR broke away into other treaties, groups and pacts. I would love a modern day version I am unsure of how many members would be present. I'm thinking about 3-4 ?

We are the only currently active commies.

Thuzbekistan wrote:

Weinam wrote:Ok Historically we have the UCCR set with it's members, formation and closure alongside that of the real Soviet Union.
A modern day equivalent is tricky as most members of the UCCR broke away into other treaties, groups and pacts. I would love a modern day version I am unsure of how many members would be present. I'm thinking about 3-4 ?

We are the only currently active commies.

Vucari ?

Would Keomora and/or others consider returning to commie ways over a period of time ?

Weinam wrote:

Thuzbekistan wrote:We are the only currently active commies.

Vucari ?

Would Keomora and/or others consider returning to commie ways over a period of time ?

God knows why vuc is still on the map and no others have plans to become commie

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=thu ... id=1028569

This is what I have on the UCCR so far. We should include specific events that tie into various economic crises throughout the later half of the 20th century.

Going over my history, I could have received UCCR aid when my famine hit in 1961. From 1961-1994 my history is an open book.

I'm probably gonna need some funding for the Hekongists-Shahiristas because they full a huge role in my nation's history. They're a group like the tupamaros or So, trying to have an urban guerilla war due to spacial constraints. Me and Samu have already agreed to do some funding during the 60s-70s, but more the merrier. Negarakita at the time was a weak democracy then a military dictatorship like Pinochet, and heavily anticommunist so would have been a good target. On the assumption that they are terrorists, they are, but in the same way any other leftist group was. They operated similarly to the IRA but on a tiny island.

Negarakita wrote:I'm probably gonna need some funding for the Hekongists-Shahiristas because they full a huge role in my nation's history. They're a group like the tupamaros or So, trying to have an urban guerilla war due to spacial constraints. Me and Samu have already agreed to do some funding during the 60s-70s, but more the merrier. Negarakita at the time was a weak democracy then a military dictatorship like Pinochet, and heavily anticommunist so would have been a good target. On the assumption that they are terrorists, they are, but in the same way any other leftist group was. They operated similarly to the IRA but on a tiny island.

I'm down with this

Negarakita wrote:I'm probably gonna need some funding for the Hekongists-Shahiristas because they full a huge role in my nation's history. They're a group like the tupamaros or So, trying to have an urban guerilla war due to spacial constraints. Me and Samu have already agreed to do some funding during the 60s-70s, but more the merrier. Negarakita at the time was a weak democracy then a military dictatorship like Pinochet, and heavily anticommunist so would have been a good target. On the assumption that they are terrorists, they are, but in the same way any other leftist group was. They operated similarly to the IRA but on a tiny island.

Sounds Groovy

Alrighty, neg just put the uccr in your history as backers and I'll write up a bit of history for it.

Thuzbekistan wrote:Alrighty, neg just put the uccr in your history as backers and I'll write up a bit of history for it.

They are already in, although will get more love during the fall of the Union of Sanggar and afterwards until their defeat in late 70s

Negarakita wrote:Me and Samu have already agreed to do some funding during the 60s-70s,

Funding the Shahiristas? I thought we agreed about a failed communist uprisings and subsequent guerilla phase in the 50s and 60s?