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A m e n r i a
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Founded: Jun 08, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby A m e n r i a » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:48 am

Hinodia wrote:Also, to any newcomers here, we’re not all bad guys here. After all, that term is subjective as all hell at that point, given our opposition paints themselves as heroes while often causing as much collateral human damage as we do and disregarding international law even more frequently than we do.


Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.
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The Federation of Kendor
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby The Federation of Kendor » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:01 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Hinodia wrote:Also, to any newcomers here, we’re not all bad guys here. After all, that term is subjective as all hell at that point, given our opposition paints themselves as heroes while often causing as much collateral human damage as we do and disregarding international law even more frequently than we do.


Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.

Because you are an islamist. So you think that secular nation are immoral for not believing in God and rebelling against him, like Adam and Eve, and the sinners on hell
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Gagium
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Postby Gagium » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:00 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Hinodia wrote:Also, to any newcomers here, we’re not all bad guys here. After all, that term is subjective as all hell at that point, given our opposition paints themselves as heroes while often causing as much collateral human damage as we do and disregarding international law even more frequently than we do.


Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.

if you gotta point out you're not bad guys, chances are you're bad guys
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Lethen Empire
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Founded: Dec 03, 2017
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Postby Lethen Empire » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:13 am

Gagium wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.

if you gotta point out you're not bad guys, chances are you're bad guys


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Siberai
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Founded: Nov 04, 2017
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Postby Siberai » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:41 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Hinodia wrote:Also, to any newcomers here, we’re not all bad guys here. After all, that term is subjective as all hell at that point, given our opposition paints themselves as heroes while often causing as much collateral human damage as we do and disregarding international law even more frequently than we do.


Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.


Not really, we actively try not to kill innocents, but it ends up being inevitable in long, drawn out warfare. We're relatively peaceful, only fighting when threatened or when someone needs to be taught a lesson. Sae to say, we've freed some people from inept leaders, an example being Atkemri. We're heroes in our own sense, we're lawful chaotic.
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A m e n r i a
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Founded: Jun 08, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby A m e n r i a » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:45 am

The Federation of Kendor wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.

Because you are an islamist. So you think that secular nation are immoral for not believing in God and rebelling against him, like Adam and Eve, and the sinners on hell


Excuse me, but Adam and Eve are good, despite one little mistake that got mankind thrown into Earth. Adam is the first Muslim prophet.

Siberai wrote:
A m e n r i a wrote:
Umm, alignment is certainly NOT subjective. A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws. That being said, lemme ask you. Are you REALLY the bad guys? If you're monarchies then you shouldn't slaughter innocents because that's dishonorable and wrong, which is totally not something monarchies do. I'm thinking of joining, but I gotta clear this up because my nation is a poster boy for heroism.


Not really, we actively try not to kill innocents, but it ends up being inevitable in long, drawn out warfare. We're relatively peaceful, only fighting when threatened or when someone needs to be taught a lesson. Sae to say, we've freed some people from inept leaders, an example being Atkemri. We're heroes in our own sense, we're lawful chaotic.


How can something that avoidable be inevitable? Also, lawful is the opposite of chaotic, and I have a feeling you guys are leaning towards lawful, which is better.
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Hinodia
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Founded: Nov 28, 2016
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Postby Hinodia » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:54 am

A m e n r i a wrote:How can something that avoidable be inevitable? Also, lawful is the opposite of chaotic, and I have a feeling you guys are leaning towards lawful, which is better.

Civilian casualties tend to happen regardless of how careful one is in war, especially during sieges and bonbings, which are pretty necessary to take out an enemy’s production capabilities. Besides, war is not something so precise or easy to control. It is chaotic, and in the chaos mistakes are easily made.

As for the alignment thing, I believe Siberai meant to say something along the lines of Lawful Neutral. We’re not explicitly good or bad, but we do take out threats to the world as well as oust warmongers and inept leaders who rattle their sabers too much.
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A m e n r i a
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Founded: Jun 08, 2017
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Postby A m e n r i a » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:49 pm

Count me in then, here's an app:

IC Nation Name: Empire of Amenria
Type of Monarchy: absolute monarchy
Tech Level: Late PMT-Early FT
Are you willing to participate in wars?: Sure
Do you have Factbooks we can peruse to decide your placement?: Sure, most are WIP and I'm going to write new ones though
Do you Support Communism IC?: No, we're neutral with them
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Sinocentric Asian theocratic absolute monarchy. Set 28 years in the future. On-site factbooks are no longer canon. A 13.14 civilization, according to this index.
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Imperial Esplanade
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Founded: Dec 13, 2013
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:59 pm

IC Nation Name: Look above, silly boy.
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Tech Level: Future Tech
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Do you Support Communism IC?: We support the blowing up of Communist nations, is that what you meant?
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Siberai
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Founded: Nov 04, 2017
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Postby Siberai » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:00 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:IC Nation Name: Look above, silly boy.
Type of Monarchy: Constitutional Monarchy Hybrid (WIP)
Tech Level: Future Tech
Are you willing to participate in wars?: Are you suggesting I get to blow stuff up?
Do you have Factbooks we can peruse to decide your placement?: WIPs, but yes
Do you Support Communism IC?: We support the blowing up of Communist nations, is that what you meant?


After much deliberation, we Welcome you to the Pact.
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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Founded: Aug 29, 2017
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:38 pm

A m e n r i a wrote:A democratic and liberal nation is more likely to be bad guys because they're secular and ignore God's laws.


Not meaning to harp on this too much, but-

>Secular nation, with many sects of Christianity, alongside other religions such as Judaism and yes, some Muslims who agree with our methods
>Nation founded on quite a few Roman Catholic values
>Considered by many, even one in the Jupiter Pact, to be heroes in our own right

You don’t have to be completely theocratic to respect God. We know to respect Him regardless of how we worship- something the United States and we understood.

And many monarchies, namely much of the Jupiter Pact’s members, slaughter and oppress innocents- the reason why the Angel’s Alliance exists.
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Eclius
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Founded: Oct 24, 2015
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Postby Eclius » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:41 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:IC Nation Name: Look above, silly boy.
Type of Monarchy: Constitutional Monarchy Hybrid (WIP)
Tech Level: Future Tech
Are you willing to participate in wars?: Are you suggesting I get to blow stuff up?
Do you have Factbooks we can peruse to decide your placement?: WIPs, but yes
Do you Support Communism IC?: We support the blowing up of Communist nations, is that what you meant?

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Eclius
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Postby Eclius » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:44 pm

It's almost hilarious how lots of my buddies are in Jupiter
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Aureumterra
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Founded: Oct 25, 2017
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:46 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:And many monarchies, namely much of the Jupiter Pact’s members, slaughter and oppress innocents- the reason why the Angel’s Alliance exists.

You’re talking like AA nations don’t.
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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Founded: Aug 29, 2017
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:48 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:And many monarchies, namely much of the Jupiter Pact’s members, slaughter and oppress innocents- the reason why the Angel’s Alliance exists.

You’re talking like AA nations don’t.

And? You’re either going to use Atkemri (we’re not proud of everything he does) or Lunshan (he doesn’t use NS stats) as a case against us.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:48 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:You’re talking like AA nations don’t.

And? You’re either going to use Atkemri (we’re not proud of everything he does) or Lunshan (he doesn’t use NS stats) as a case against us.

Oh, I forgot, Exodia, Atkemri, Gagium, and Kendor to name a few
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Eclius
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Postby Eclius » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:And many monarchies, namely much of the Jupiter Pact’s members, slaughter and oppress innocents- the reason why the Angel’s Alliance exists.

You’re talking like AA nations don’t.

Lol, I've never seen JP members oppressing innocents, in fact, I'm beginning to think that AA is disturbing the peace people rightfully deserves and AA happens to be the agent of disturbance. Nonetheless, IC wise, I refuse to engage JP due to its members being very admirable nations.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 pm

Eclius wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:You’re talking like AA nations don’t.

Lol, I've never seen JP members oppressing innocents, in fact, I'm beginning to think that AA is disturbing the peace people rightfully deserves and AA happens to be the agent of disturbance. Nonetheless, IC wise, I refuse to engage JP due to its members being very admirable nations.

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Eclius
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Founded: Oct 24, 2015
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Postby Eclius » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:50 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Eclius wrote:Lol, I've never seen JP members oppressing innocents, in fact, I'm beginning to think that AA is disturbing the peace people rightfully deserves and AA happens to be the agent of disturbance. Nonetheless, IC wise, I refuse to engage JP due to its members being very admirable nations.

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I'm not gonna bring war to innocent lives, as AA members are trying to do.
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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Founded: Aug 29, 2017
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:51 pm

Eclius wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:You’re talking like AA nations don’t.

Lol, I've never seen JP members oppressing innocents, in fact, I'm beginning to think that AA is disturbing the peace people rightfully deserves and AA happens to be the agent of disturbance. Nonetheless, IC wise, I refuse to engage JP due to its members being very admirable nations.

Your testimony has been duly noted.
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Gagium
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Founded: Apr 08, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gagium » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:55 pm

Eclius wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:You’re talking like AA nations don’t.

Lol, I've never seen JP members oppressing innocents, in fact, I'm beginning to think that AA is disturbing the peace people rightfully deserves and AA happens to be the agent of disturbance. Nonetheless, IC wise, I refuse to engage JP due to its members being very admirable nations.

>>>literally bombing a whole city and removing an island from the globe just because

>>>>never seen JP members oppressing innocents

Yea k
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Gagium
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Postby Gagium » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:57 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:And? You’re either going to use Atkemri (we’re not proud of everything he does) or Lunshan (he doesn’t use NS stats) as a case against us.

Oh, I forgot, Exodia, Atkemri, Gagium, and Kendor to name a few

Quote one post in which I "oppressed innocents"? Please, I'm waiting
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Imperial Esplanade
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Founded: Dec 13, 2013
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Postby Imperial Esplanade » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:58 pm

Eclius wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:IC Nation Name: Look above, silly boy.
Type of Monarchy: Constitutional Monarchy Hybrid (WIP)
Tech Level: Future Tech
Are you willing to participate in wars?: Are you suggesting I get to blow stuff up?
Do you have Factbooks we can peruse to decide your placement?: WIPs, but yes
Do you Support Communism IC?: We support the blowing up of Communist nations, is that what you meant?

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She's still alive. :)

Great to see you around, bud.
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Eclius
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Founded: Oct 24, 2015
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Postby Eclius » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:01 pm

Imperial Esplanade wrote:
Eclius wrote:Imperial Esplanade!! Hi hi! Remember me? Queen Emmy?

She's still alive. :)

Great to see you around, bud.

To all AA members, you declare war on Imperial Esplanade, you're in war with me!
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Gagium
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Founded: Apr 08, 2017
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Postby Gagium » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:02 pm

Eclius wrote:
Imperial Esplanade wrote:She's still alive. :)

Great to see you around, bud.

To all AA members, you declare war on Imperial Esplanade, you're in war with me!

We're all (mostly) PMT though, Imperial Esplanade is FT, so I don't think there's really a problem
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