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Verona Beach
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Postby Verona Beach » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:28 pm

Okay I know I didn't use the UO and I will in the future, but can I run some airstrikes on the PLF using some planes I have for my air force in the area? My target areas would be military installations around Lahpso Tala and Lihai and will constitute a weeklong sustained campaign.
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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:50 pm

Tag.

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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:22 pm

What I didn't Mention in my recent post:

My forces will now be moving south rapidly. using SA-25s, they would be keeping the jets at bay for the moment, I think (will consult Mik on this). Perhaps now would be a good time to accuse Thuzbekistan publicly of supporting the PLF.

My forces will be moving rapidly to the South, aiming at Lihai.
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Dormill and Stiura
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:26 pm

I'll mention it here that'll I'll prepare an OOB (Order of Battle) for my forces involved in the intervention into Orsandia, and then have my next IC post be the military reaction to the fall of Lahpso Tala, with a parallel post in my maintenance thread about the political reaction. Probably following with my first news post in a while to tie up loose ends.
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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:29 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:I'll mention it here that'll I'll prepare an OOB (Order of Battle) for my forces involved in the intervention into Orsandia, and then have my next IC post be the military reaction to the fall of Lahpso Tala, with a parallel post in my maintenance thread about the political reaction. Probably following with my first news post in a while to tie up loose ends.

That'll be useful to know.

Orsandia and yourself will need to coordinate.
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Jorvvik
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Postby Jorvvik » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:01 pm

Jorvvik is happy to assist with military assistance once placed on the map in Gael, extremely close to Orsandias western border. If Dormill and Stiura can allow passage through its airspace, we can assist from that side, perhaps a joint op?
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:53 pm

Dormill and Stiura
- Commanding Officer: Lt. General Palmer Van Horn
Ground Forces
2nd Land Defense Corps, Commander: Lt. General Palmer Van Horn
- 2nd Mechanized Division, Commander: Major General Denis Henson
-- 5th Brigade (QRF)
--- 9th Regiment (QRF)
---10th Regiment
-- 6th Brigade
--- 11th Regiment
--- 12th Regiment
-- 7th Brigade (QRF)
--- 13th Regiment (QRF)
--- 14th Regiment
-- 8th Brigade
---15th Regiment
---16th Regiment

Manpower Deployed: (QRF) 6,720, (Total) 13,440

Naval Forces
Coastal Assault Force Dormill, Commander: Captian Armel Tuckthaem
- DSN Dormill SCV-501, Commander: Captian Armel Tuckthaem
- DSN Rangi CG-404, Commander: Leon Émile
- DSN Chery DDG-301, Commander: Commander John Womack
- DSN Veaux DDG-302, Commander: Commander Timothé Agthoven
- DSN Lukas Monet Sr. FF-201
- DSN Rémy de Launey FF-202

Manpower Deployed: ~2,020

Air Forces
South Air Force Combat Command: South Volksstad Air Force Base, Volksstads Joint Base, South Volksstad, Upper Kaelectia, North Volksstad, Lower Kaelectia
- 6th Fighter Wing, Equipment: FM5Ed
- 9th Fighter Wing, Equipment: FM5Ed
- 15th Fighter Wing, Equipment: Gaelfighter
- 3rd Airlift Wing, Equipment: C-45J


Manpower Deployed:~5,000


Special Notes: Within 3 Days, the 9th and 13th Regiments will be ready for tasking in Orsandia. Within 1 Week, both the 5th and 7th Brigades will have deployed. If it is necessary, the 6th and 8th Brigades will respond as reserve forces, but only if necessary.
Jorvvik wrote:Jorvvik is happy to assist with military assistance once placed on the map in Gael, extremely close to Orsandias western border. If Dormill and Stiura can allow passage through its airspace, we can assist from that side, perhaps a joint op?

I'll think it over. For now though, just wait until you're on the map and then prepare yourself for refugees.
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Orsandia
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Postby Orsandia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:29 pm

Jorvvik wrote:Jorvvik is happy to assist with military assistance once placed on the map in Gael, extremely close to Orsandias western border. If Dormill and Stiura can allow passage through its airspace, we can assist from that side, perhaps a joint op?


Before you get your feet wet, I think you should consult with Mik about your military structure, im not sure if any Gaeltic nations IC have an aircraft carrier in our immediate vicinity.
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Jorvvik
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Postby Jorvvik » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:11 pm

Orsandia wrote:Before you get your feet wet, I think you should consult with Mik about your military structure, im not sure if any Gaeltic nations IC have an aircraft carrier in our immediate vicinity.

I've adjusted my military more accordingly. Jorrvik can provide fairly comprehensive air support and ground units, as well as means for the anticipated refugee's.

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Aruia
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Postby Aruia » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:48 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:What I didn't Mention in my recent post:

My forces will now be moving south rapidly. using SA-25s, they would be keeping the jets at bay for the moment, I think (will consult Mik on this). Perhaps now would be a good time to accuse Thuzbekistan publicly of supporting the PLF.

My forces will be moving rapidly to the South, aiming at Lihai.

I am going to do it in my today news post
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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:30 am

Aruia wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:What I didn't Mention in my recent post:

My forces will now be moving south rapidly. using SA-25s, they would be keeping the jets at bay for the moment, I think (will consult Mik on this). Perhaps now would be a good time to accuse Thuzbekistan publicly of supporting the PLF.

My forces will be moving rapidly to the South, aiming at Lihai.

I am going to do it in my today news post

I'd talk to ors first.
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Ostehaar
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Postby Ostehaar » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:10 am

Jorvvik wrote:
Orsandia wrote:Before you get your feet wet, I think you should consult with Mik about your military structure, im not sure if any Gaeltic nations IC have an aircraft carrier in our immediate vicinity.

I've adjusted my military more accordingly. Jorrvik can provide fairly comprehensive air support and ground units, as well as means for the anticipated refugee's.

Why would it, though? Why would your soldiers fight other nations' wars? Before you decide if and how you'd want to intervene - first think about your motivations and agendas for being involved in the first place. Also, remember that there are already several military forces involved, namely from two neighboring nations. Think if your nations would really have an advantage or not...
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Jorvvik
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Postby Jorvvik » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:41 am

Why? Because our point of view this has the ability to escalate even further and spill out wider. With the influx of refugees, Jorvvik would want to nip this crisis in the bud before its inundated with more refugees then it can handle. Jorvvik wouldn't just ignore it's neighbours in trouble, that would be deemed bad for international relations.

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Ostehaar
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Postby Ostehaar » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:58 am

Jorvvik wrote:Why? Because our point of view this has the ability to escalate even further and spill out wider. With the influx of refugees, Jorvvik would want to nip this crisis in the bud before its inundated with more refugees then it can handle. Jorvvik wouldn't just ignore it's neighbours in trouble, that would be deemed bad for international relations.

I'm not talking about ignoring - there are many options like humanitarian aid, diplomacy, etc. - not just military involvement. Three armed forces from Gael are already involved in this, not including the insurgents themselves and Thuzbekistan. Ask yourself if you really see a good reason to throw yet another military force into the mix - let alone not a neighboring one.

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Aruia
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Postby Aruia » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:29 am

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Aruia wrote:I am going to do it in my today news post

I'd talk to ors first.

Aruia already slammed Thuzbekistan for incitement in the passed. It would only seem logic to continue you it while Aruia advance the refugee program. I don't really follow where it requires further development.
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Jorvvik
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Postby Jorvvik » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:40 am

Ostehaar wrote:
Jorvvik wrote:I'm not talking about ignoring - there are many options like humanitarian aid, diplomacy, etc. - not just military involvement. Three armed forces from Gael are already involved in this, not including the insurgents themselves and Thuzbekistan. Ask yourself if you really see a good reason to throw yet another military force into the mix - let alone not a neighboring one.


Jorvvik would happily send humanitarian aid and supplies. Diplomacy would seem mute by this point as action is already being undertaken. I wouldn't send humanitarian aid into a war zone until I knew it was relatively safe to do so, hence the offering of sending further military assistance to bring the fighting to a faster close and then deploy medical, humanitarian and refugee aid. That was all I was suggesting.

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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:47 pm

Aruia wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:I'd talk to ors first.

Aruia already slammed Thuzbekistan for incitement in the passed. It would only seem logic to continue you it while Aruia advance the refugee program. I don't really follow where it requires further development.

I just like everyone to be on the same page.
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Aruia
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Postby Aruia » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:38 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Aruia wrote:Aruia already slammed Thuzbekistan for incitement in the passed. It would only seem logic to continue you it while Aruia advance the refugee program. I don't really follow where it requires further development.

I just like everyone to be on the same page.

So long as there is no objection i think i am in the fine.
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Thuzbekistan
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:52 pm

Aruia wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:I just like everyone to be on the same page.

So long as there is no objection i think i am in the fine.

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Orsandia
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Postby Orsandia » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:42 pm

Aruia wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:I just like everyone to be on the same page.

So long as there is no objection i think i am in the fine.


You are good to go, bud.
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Aruia
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Postby Aruia » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:48 pm

Posted in News, next step will be RP post. possibly tomorrow atleast a flash back post on AIRAS preparations
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Jorvvik
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Postby Jorvvik » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 pm

Orsandia, Jorvvik is ready to assist your government with military and humanitarian aid. Jorvvik would need permission to fly into your airspace if agreeable to our inclusion.

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Ostehaar
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Postby Ostehaar » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:41 pm

Jorvvik wrote:Orsandia, Jorvvik is ready to assist your government with military and humanitarian aid. Jorvvik would need permission to fly into your airspace if agreeable to our inclusion.

You are not on the map yet - please wait until you are before actually getting involved in RP.

Also, Ors, just letting you know - ICly Ostehaar would be against allowing any nation (other than Dorm, Ostehaar, and Orsandia) the use of your airspace. Three air forces is already crowded enough...

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Jorvvik
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Postby Jorvvik » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:01 pm

I would be if people hurried up and added to the map...

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Orsandia
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Postby Orsandia » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:41 pm

Aruia , good news post, but you gotta edit it bud. We aren't at the IC stage where Thuzbekistan has even officially been implicated as a co-conspirator in the Orsandian conflict yet. What you can do though to edit this post, instead of saying you "know" Thuz is behind it, you can strongly accuse him of doing so, and acting in a manner that you choose. Just remember, its gonna be a while until Thuz and Samu are unveiled to behind plf aid.
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