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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:10 pm

I'll make this brief because I'm pretty livid: Is there ANYTHING I MUST know about the course of this RP that I MUST pay attention to so I can post the correct thing at the correct time so I don't look like a complete jackass who doesn't know how to write a proper post?
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:11 pm

It appears that I need to update:

Samudera and I are discussing sending supplies to Orsandia. The first one was lucky to get through naval patrols. The next shipments are attempting to be much more coordinated and will have a decoy part to them as well.
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Postby Orsandia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:48 pm

My apologies for not using this OOC thread more frequently, and I am sorry it messed up your post D&S.

But yes, the main thing we are working on / should focus on is BUILD UP and intelligence based operations ala "cat and mouse" between Oste, D&S, and I and Samudera/Thuzbekistan. This should be the main focus of the Spectre for at least the next two to three weeks.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:56 pm

Orsandia wrote:My apologies for not using this OOC thread more frequently, and I am sorry it messed up your post D&S.

But yes, the main thing we are working on / should focus on is BUILD UP and intelligence based operations ala "cat and mouse" between Oste, D&S, and I and Samudera/Thuzbekistan. This should be the main focus of the Spectre for at least the next two to three weeks.

It'll make the actual fighting and results that much more satisfying
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Postby Orsandia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:12 pm

So what will happen after that, Ostehaar has suggested that :

Another option is that we do find out about it, but our decision-making level is too slow to respond, the PLF, Thuzbek Spec Ops find out they've been compromised and start the offensive sooner than they planned.
which would be cool and ironic, since our actions would influence the situation and backfire
and it would also be a classic case of "low level people do the right thing, politicians fail"


So basically after the intel based cat and mouse, The intel teams from Dormill & Stiura, Ostehaar, and Orsandia begin to catch on the secret developments and intentions of the PLF, causing the PLF leader, and Thuzbek advisors to greenlight an attack in Lahpso Taha in the Urching Autonomous Region in Southern Orsandia. Due to slow actions by our politicians, and having the Orsandian Army caught off guard, a Lahpso Taha falls to the PLF, and a military base in Lahpso Taha is raided, with several troops defecting to the PLF with equipment. Those who were captured, continued to fight, or resisted the PLF are "dealt" with. The fall of Lahpso Taha and surprise defeat launches Orsandia in to full mobilization, with its allies seemingly following suit with a heightened level of alertness. This will we will transition full time into war RP mode.

You may all begin to plan your roles and specific involvements in anticipation of future developments. State them here and try to refer to the OOC for planning. I will be trying to post here more.

So to end our RP efforts should be focused on
-Intelligence Gathering, Counter-Intel ops, and Secret dealings (Samu/Thuz)
-Diplomatic Channels and interactions (World leaders, ambassadors)
- Early Armed Forces actions, (i.e- pre-emptive buildup, heightening alertness level, or even limited engagement if they choose.


THIS SHALL STRETCH 2-6 WEEKS
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Postby Ostehaar » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:21 am

Dormill and Stiura wrote:...so I don't look like a complete jackass who doesn't know how to write a proper post?[/size]

Just for the record, in case this isn't clear - you don't like a complete jackass. There was a little misunderstanding, that's all. :P

EDIT: On a more general note, I'd like to add that I find this RP very enjoyable, even so early on, and I like where it is heading.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:38 am

Ostehaar wrote:
Dormill and Stiura wrote:...so I don't look like a complete jackass who doesn't know how to write a proper post?[/size]

Just for the record, in case this isn't clear - you don't like a complete jackass. There was a little misunderstanding, that's all. :P

EDIT: On a more general note, I'd like to add that I find this RP very enjoyable, even so early on, and I like where it is heading.

I concur
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Postby Samudera » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:55 am

After i finished my conversation with Thuz (just need one more post if i'm not mistaken), I will start posting about my intelligence gathering and my effort to communicate with the rebels. And of course the gun smuggling operation

Orsandia wrote:But yes, the main thing we are working on / should focus on is BUILD UP and intelligence based operations ala "cat and mouse" between Oste, D&S, and I and Samudera/Thuzbekistan. This should be the main focus of the Spectre for at least the next two to three weeks.


How will the "cat and mouse" intelligence ops be done?
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Postby Ostehaar » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:59 am

Samudera wrote:How will the "cat and mouse" intelligence ops be done?

My suggestion is to think of it like a story about police detective trying to find criminals. The criminals are always at least one step ahead, but the detective is gradually filling in the holes and closing in on them. On their part, the criminals try to leave as few clues behind them as possible.

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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:21 am

Ostehaar wrote:
Samudera wrote:How will the "cat and mouse" intelligence ops be done?

My suggestion is to think of it like a story about police detective trying to find criminals. The criminals are always at least one step ahead, but the detective is gradually filling in the holes and closing in on them. On their part, the criminals try to leave as few clues behind them as possible.

And what clues we do leave (ships with unregistered cargo linking back to thuzbekistan, for instamce) will be purposely misleading.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:59 am

Ostehaar, I was thinking that there could be a good use of your Intel assets in my nation at this time. While I'm sending decoy ships to orsandia, the real weapons are being sent mixed with real cargo to samudera. After the raid, you would know my civilian shipping is involved. Might be enough to activate an agent to try and figure out which port is being used, what ships are being sent, and where they're being sent.

Edit: I also find it funny that when I took this role, you were nervous as to my ability. Now we are working well together.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:10 am

Good good.

So I had this idea to keep the rp in the news during this build up period. So far the riots gave been just that- riots. Angry people. Yong Jun has been hard at work, though, trying to unite the smaller groups under the plf. I was thinking that if the plf and the smaller groups performed an orderly parade to attempt to show that destruction wasn't all this was about, then it would help make a lot of leaders more tense regarding the nature of these riots. But, just to throw a political wrench in the whole thing, the group representing the smaller faction unfurled the old flag of orsandia and the thuzbej flag. It would throw my governm ent into fit of distancing itself which would affect the thuzbek relationship with the PLF
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Postby Aruia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:11 pm

Orsandia wrote:So what will happen after that, Ostehaar has suggested that :

So to end our RP efforts should be focused on
-Intelligence Gathering, Counter-Intel ops, and Secret dealings (Samu/Thuz)
-Diplomatic Channels and interactions (World leaders, ambassadors)
- Early Armed Forces actions, (i.e- pre-emptive buildup, heightening alertness level, or even limited engagement if they choose.


THIS SHALL STRETCH 2-6 WEEKS


already started that part. Aruia basically received the intel it needed on the most basic levels something even shared by media on what is going on with the riots, its already starting pre-emptive build up.
in that part i WILL need some diplomatic co op from those i share a border with.
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Postby Orsandia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:18 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:Good good.

So I had this idea to keep the rp in the news during this build up period. So far the riots gave been just that- riots. Angry people. Yong Jun has been hard at work, though, trying to unite the smaller groups under the plf. I was thinking that if the plf and the smaller groups performed an orderly parade to attempt to show that destruction wasn't all this was about, then it would help make a lot of leaders more tense regarding the nature of these riots. But, just to throw a political wrench in the whole thing, the group representing the smaller faction unfurled the old flag of orsandia and the thuzbej flag. It would throw my governm ent into fit of distancing itself which would affect the thuzbek relationship with the PLF


I can do an RP, and news post about it, if you're up to it.
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Postby Aruia » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:Good good.

So I had this idea to keep the rp in the news during this build up period. So far the riots gave been just that- riots. Angry people. Yong Jun has been hard at work, though, trying to unite the smaller groups under the plf. I was thinking that if the plf and the smaller groups performed an orderly parade to attempt to show that destruction wasn't all this was about, then it would help make a lot of leaders more tense regarding the nature of these riots. But, just to throw a political wrench in the whole thing, the group representing the smaller faction unfurled the old flag of orsandia and the thuzbej flag. It would throw my governm ent into fit of distancing itself which would affect the thuzbek relationship with the PLF

that sounds like a nice idea, i would also like a response from your government from my government slamming them on encouraging the riots
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Postby Samudera » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:43 pm

thuzbekistan, Yong Jun shouls met with my agent in Orsandia, and maybe with Serhan too
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:53 pm

Samudera wrote:thuzbekistan, Yong Jun shouls met with my agent in Orsandia, and maybe with Serhan too

Should meet? Ok, during the next meeting with him about the parade and all we can do that]]

Edit: Before I go here and post, I want to express admiration for Oste's post. I don't know if it was intentional, but the cold wet windy kind of weather just fit perfectly with what I described merely 150-300 miles south of the safehouse there. If that was intentional, I have to give a round of applause to paying attention to that detail.
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:22 am

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=970826

As always, secret stuff is secret.

I plan for my listening post in Samudera and one I'm going to establish by the fishing dock we will use for cargo to aid in tracking patrols, helping my subs keep out of sight, and directing shipping through the patrol lanes.

viewtopic.php?p=33449318#p33449318

Just a news post
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Postby Oturia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:00 pm

I still need approval to send the democratic military supplies and weapons
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:09 pm

Oturia wrote:I still need approval to send the democratic military supplies and weapons

What you need to do is some serious world building. Your factbooks are pretty bare, my dude.
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Postby Oturia » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:12 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:
Oturia wrote:I still need approval to send the democratic military supplies and weapons

What you need to do is some serious world building. Your factbooks are pretty bare, my dude.


Well telegram me some ideas
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:14 pm

Oturia wrote:
Thuzbekistan wrote:What you need to do is some serious world building. Your factbooks are pretty bare, my dude.


Well telegram me some ideas

I'll shoot you a tg
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Postby Samudera » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:32 am

The protest and riot that resulted in Ahnslen consulate evacuation is in Yangkong right? And has the protest anywhere else in Orsandia escalated into a riot?
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Postby Samudera » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:43 am

Just posted in IC thread. Next meeting will be when our agents met, Thuz

Also for next news post i'll write about my embassy issuing warning in anticipation of riots escalation
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:27 am

Samudera wrote:Just posted in IC thread. Next meeting will be when our agents met, Thuz

Also for next news post i'll write about my embassy issuing warning in anticipation of riots escalation

Orsandia and I were talking about my p arade idea and he is just going to have a couple protesters unfurl a flag during a riot. More realistic.
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