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Postby Uprea » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:36 pm

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1657038

This is the finished timeline, as I extracted it from prior postings in this thread. Fell free to correct me if I made a mistake or if you would like to add something.
As everything here is fictional. Statements made do NOT represent my IRL views.

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:44 pm

Uprea wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1657038

This is the finished timeline, as I extracted it from prior postings in this thread. Fell free to correct me if I made a mistake or if you would like to add something.

Looks good, I'll add this into the Sawneeak dispatch alongside the updated map within the week.
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Postby The Kayevies » Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:12 pm

It seemed from the dispatch that Sawneeak Atoll wasn't fully claimed, and The Kayevies would like to be involved if possible. Imagining a national wildlife refuge on one smaller island, funded and operated by governmental scientists from The Kayevies, with possible international support or cooperation. As The Kayevies are quite pacifist, they'd avoid a standing civilian or military population, or interference in any military operations present on other islands. I could write up some biological review papers on the Sawneeak Quail and the unique climate features as a lead-in to RP, as well as a history of the founding of the refuge (thinking recent, early 2000s perhaps).
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Postby Swedesttanossa » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:36 am

I would like to have the Panko, I'll tell you the history by Sunday.
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Re: Hintuwani Sawaneeak proposal

Postby Hintuwan » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:25 pm

as the title says

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Actual area of Hintuwani Sawaneeak


- Sawaneeak Atoll is (according to legend) visited in the 3rd century AD by the semi-historical explorer Dupok who spreads word of an advanced civilization to the Batara Dynasty. Datu Makadag, another mythic Hintuwani hero, does some adventuring in the atoll and was allegedly crowned as some sort of king or chosen one among the Sawaneeakers. All of this is according to one imperial copperplate written in the 16th century so it's very likely it was made up, but that's the basis for Hintuwan claiming the whole atoll.
- Actual historical figure Ramaya Perpat confirms its location circa 4th century, but evidence suggests Hintuwani settlement doesn't begin in earnest until the early 6th century. The first ruler of Hintuwani Sawaneeak is called Datu Ili, who names his fief "Lupah Ilijay" (short for "land where Ili's balanghai sailed"). Small communities of Hintuwanis are created but really exist as nothing more than trade enclaves just like in a lot of other places. However, while Hintuwani trade enclaves elsewhere fall, this one survives because of its strategic geography.
- After the Mok Wars and the rebellion of Ivolshok, Hintuwan becomes more forceful in integrating the Sawaneeakers into Hintuwani society. Local Datu are compelled by the Lakan to fill their harems with natives, creating a culture/race known as the "Tauili" (The Ili People). Rebellious natives band together and form a series of barbarian coalitions, referred to simply by the Hintuawani as the "Kematau" (Inner-folk).
- Hintuwan is colonized by the Pordhesians, who also colonize Lupah Ilijay. The territory becomes a refuge for religious and political dissenters. The Tauili Republic is established in defiance of Pordhesian rule and briefly gains independence after they leave, but D&S eventually conquers it. D&S uses Lupah Ilijay as a jumping point to reinforce their troops fighting in Hintuwan.
- Hintuwan gains independence from D&S and a referendum is held to determine Tauili independence. 60%~ vote against. Hintuwani dictator Cagalangan focuses on upgrading the territory's infrastructure and bolstering nationalistic propaganda to hinder secessionist sentiments. Tauili and Kematau rebels are armed by communist powers during the Cold War. Reforms are made in the 90s granting Lupah Ilijay autonomous republic status. Rebels continue to be a threat to Hintuwani rule although most of the population still generally wants to stay with Hintuwan (similar to the Falklands).
- Lupah Ilijay's industrialization under Cagalangan caused massive ecosystem-threatening pollution to the point of condemnation by the int'l community however successive liberal governments have tried to make up for it. Most of the native culture was wiped out centuries ago and mass graves from previous genocides continue to be discovered by archaeologists. It's Hawaii but full of Filipinos (aka just regular irl Hawaii tbh).
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Postby Hintuwan » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:36 pm

Hintuwan wrote:-snip-


Since I realize I've just made up a lot of terms that may sound strange to non-malay people, I have also decided to come up with a pronunciation guide for the weird names of the places/groups iterated:

Datu Makadag: Mah - kah - dahg
Ramaya Perpat: Rah - Mah - Yah, Per - Paht
Lupah Ilijay: Lu - pah, Illy - hai (as in the word "high")
Tauili: Tah - willy
Kematau: Key - mah - tau (as in the "Tao" in "Taoism")
Bayugay: Bah - yuh - guy (as in the word "guy")
Tisir: Tih - seer
Angeminos: Ang - heh - mee - nos (as in "knows")
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Postby Hintuwan » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:44 am

Are my claims approved?
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Postby Ainslie » Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:52 pm

Swedesttanossa wrote:I would like to have the Panko, I'll tell you the history by Sunday.

We do not give out bold territories on the basis of expanding one's territory or to add to their existing canon. Rather, we allocate them on the basis of who is able to make use of them to create engaging and inclusive storylines for the region at large. Until I can see a clear reason how you would use Panko to improve the depth of role-play in this region, I will not sign off on you managing it. Your overview factbook is a good start, but I really need to see more before I do anything to officially allow an acquisition to take place.

Hintuwan wrote:Are my claims approved?

yes, consider it approved. you shall also have ooc management over it [sawneeak atoll] for the forseeable future.
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Postby Swedesttanossa » Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:47 am

From the Independence to the Settlement to the Peace Negotiator to Panko.

After the 1991 Independence, there was a lot of discrimination against the lesbians or the gays. So, to stop this discrimination, the Swedesttanossan Government started the movement "Protection of Civil Rights", which ensured to motivate people not to discriminate against someone for some small, puny details in their bodies, or how two men or women live with each other.

Another really hurting thing was one simple American ad, where one lady was dressed up in a hijab and it was written below "Is it Iran?", and after that, she opened up her hijab, and in no time, she was wearing short clothes. This ad really angered the minds of the Muslims living in the Danrooqan Province. This ad also angered the Muslim Arabic people living in the Middle East, Nothern Africa and Southern Asia (on the western side of India).

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To spread this movement up at full speed, they sailed away from Swedesttanossa, and landed up on an island called Panko, which was a small island below Linaviar and beside San Javier and Charbagnia. Here, they setted up a small city, to spread the message of pacifism and inclusiveness. The people who started the movement lived here for 2 months when all the nations supported the movement. In 2 months, they found some important resources, like mines with coal, natural gas, petroleum and even gold and diamond deposits. They thought that if all of this was just under a small (I mean really small) island, then, we can claim it as a part of Swedesttanossa, and start mining here!!! So, in 1993, they finally named the village "Hal Travenchorakhent", designed a flag and signed a treaty with Linaviar.

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Shortly after, the Buddhist Revolution took place in Swedesttanossa, regarding no discrimination and some self-esteem and self-respect for the Buddhists living in Swedesttanossa, because the locals called the "GREAT GODS for nothing!!!", short-eyed, no clothe etc. This really hurt those Buddhists.

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This was a picture was taken by Reporter MurraldhKar Hijumbussen from CNN World, while he was quickly leaving out of a Buddhist Monaestry in San Lompdadino. He then showed this own the official CNN channel, the support and influence for Swedesttanossa took off dramatically. All the Buddhist Followers around the world protested about this discrimination. There were protests in Bhutan, China, Japan, Myanmar, Indonesia, S.Korea etc. They told, ''This discrimination should really put a Full Stop in from of this discrimination!!!

To stop this, the government held a meeting in Hal Travenchorakhent, Swedesttanossan Panko in a Flatiron-Syled Building. After that, Panko gained the name "Peace and Negotiator Island". All the peaceful talk and discussions currently takes place in the city of Hal Travenchorakhent.

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Postby Roendavar » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:18 pm

Swedesttanossa wrote:From the Independence to the Settlement to the Peace Negotiator to Panko.


Good day, Swedesttanossa.

While we appreciate your interest in the bold territory of Panko and that you have taken the time to create canon for it, we have problems with what you are proposing.

(1) Before posting, please link images properly so that we may be able to see what you want to show us. As of now, they remain as text and they provide no context to what you're saying.
(2) You made references to "Muslim Arabic people living the Middle East, Northern Africa and Southern Asia". You also made reference to "protests in Bhutan, China, Japan, Myanmar, (etc.)" As current canon in TWI dictate, we do not make references to Earth nations and effects between TWI and Earth, unless it was made during the colonial/imperialist period. While there have been exceptions, Earth nations cannot DIRECTLY bear consequence to the Western Isles, especially in nearer times.
(3) While I appreciate the sentiment that they are refugees escaping and creating an inclusive nation of their own, you have done poorly in justifying it. A hurtful ad and protests from places that do not hold any bearing with the Western Isles is not a threat and is flawed justification. If you are writing it as a protest or a stunt, then it would be better as a one-off event and not the founding of an entire society. If you are persistent in wanting it to be as a bold territory, then we would need better reasoning than what you have provided so far.
(4) Have you spoken to Linaviar regarding your plans? Rules dictate that before roping in other nations to your plans, you must inform them first and discuss it with them to determine the best move forward for the canon. If they have not agreed yet, you cannot include them.
(5) How were they able to find coal, natural gas, petroleum, and gold and diamond deposits in 2 months? Bear in mind, as I see it, these are people who went there to protest, not to dig under the ground. They would not have the necessary materials to determine that there were indeed these resources in Panko unless they would have known about it beforehand, they managed to sneak in machinery in Panko, or they just magically saw it beneath the ground.
(6) We understand that writing is a daunting task to undertake. However, please make sure that it is, at least, consistent and coherent. Aside from obvious mistakes, the story is really hard to follow and make sense of. Connect ideas and statements with one another as that would create a better story for you and for the readers. "This happened + this happened" and so on without providing context is stilted and does not provide a clear picture of what you want Panko to be as apart from the obvious.

As of now, and of my personal opinion, with whatever weight that holds, your proposal for the bold territory of Panko is DECLINED. I am sure that other members of the government would say the same. Being granted canon over a bold territory is, as was said, is for those who can use them to create engaging and inclusive (not literally) storylines for the entire region. What is in it for the region? Are you introducing something that would make us want to know more? Does it make members of TWI want to engage with the bold territory?

I suggest that you work on it further, both in idea and in writing. Understand how societies form. Take into account realism and what can be achieved realistically. Refer to other proposals within this thread that have been approved and take notes from those. Do not be afraid to ask for help, especially from the members of the region and the government.

I hope that this does not discourage you from trying to further canon in the Western Isles. Again, I sincerely appreciate your will to turn Panko into something better, but it must be done properly.

I hope you have a good day.
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Postby Telbnis » Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:43 pm

<blows thick layer of dust from the top of the thread>
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So, I was thinking that I would want to get involved in bold territories (recommended as a good place for new-to-the-map nations by Ainslie) and not being very experienced in long established RPing in already claimed territories, I figured I could try and get permission to manage the unclaimed territory of Carisso OOCly.
This dispatch I did isn't very long but this is the main idea for Carisso-
CARISSO TIMES
DEVASTATING WILDFIRES SPREAD FURTHER

Over the past three weeks in Carisso, over 1000 homes have been destroyed following the uncontrolled wildfire which started after an illegal bonfire. The flames have now spread to the largest town, Avilneve, and an estimated 4000 people have been evacuated. Our environmental correspondent Irina Retsa interviewed one of those people-
(This conversation has been edited for clarity.)
Irina- We all know the fires are affecting everyone, but how are they affecting you in particular?

I've lost my home, so now I'm in a small apartment trying to convince the council to let me keep my sheep in the courtyard- they have nowhere to go after all the grasslands were burned.

Irina- What did you take with you when you had to evacuate?

Nothing- there was no time. We all thought we were safe in the town but the flames weren't slowing down.

Irina- Thank you for that. This must be very hard for you.[hr]With this year being Carisso's hottest year on record due to climate change, it doesn't seem as though the fires will be stopping any time soon. What used to be schools and town halls are now scorched ruins, and there is a widespread shortage of fruit, vegetables, and grains due to not only the fires, but severe storms off the coast of Carisso making it difficult to import fresh goods. Families are mourning the loss of treasured possessions- wedding photos, loved ones' ashes, children's toys- and they need someone to blame.
The emergency services have come under fire for evacuating households without giving them time to pack anything, even when it was later shown that the fire was an hour away.
Forestry managers have come under fire for not cutting firebreaks into their woodlands, which could have prevented such a blaze in the first place.
The atmosphere in Carisso is fraught, but the locals are not backing down.
We will bring you further news tomorrow.

The IC report didn't explain my idea very well (too short and not enough details, but I'm bad at long reports) so here is some further explanation:

The main tensions in Carisso are the fires, which through shortages and evacuations are stirring up unrest. This is a big deal because one of the big parts of Carissese society is how friendly and polite people are to each other, which has now very suddenly broken down into people raiding abandoned houses for supplies.
This is also a big shock to the rest of TWI, because Carisso was famed for its idyllic, Arcadian countryside and way of life, yet the tempestuous seas around it (climate change for you) make aid difficult.
I think there could be a lot of possible RP in-
-the rescue services work- The island's one major hospital was caught in the fires, so there's a lot of makeshift ambulances around.
-other countries trying to help but having trouble in storms.
-the local people. As with basically every other RP, you always need a bit of it to be based around characters, and I think there's a lot of plot that can come out of the ordinary people trying to rebuild (or cause chaos).

I'd love to know who likes my idea, especially if they include Roendavar, Ainslie, Vancouvia, and other members of TWI' government.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:01 pm

Gday TWI.

One of the pet projects that I have been working on for a while was to hit the reset button on the International District as a bold territory and create a more realistic (and less legally ambiguous) nation in the place of the current bold territory. While I recognize the long history of the ID as it stands and the relevance of maintaining a distinct international territory to host the League, so long as the League as it is remains in disuse and undeveloped, the less future use can be expected. This is also the reason why I launched the office for the Undersecretary for the ID and League, to provide these important institutions as permanent as possible management from the Office of Roleplay.

In recognition of my previous attempt to solidify the history of this bold territory, this new one will make as few changes to existing canon as possible, and will instead focus on building context and setting the territory up for future use. Utilizing the system I've used for these proposals in the past, I present Meridian for your consideration.

1. Name: Republic of Meridian
2. De Facto Rule: Under a Vancouvian-backed Military Junta.
3. Status: Independent, functional Vancouvian puppet state.
4. Nations Involved: Vancouvia, Ainslie
5. Description: A state born from the crossroads of Gael and Argus, Meridian's existence has been constantly tested by international conflict. Though it had attempted to assert itself as a neutral state after the Imperial War, being the host of the highly valued International District, corruption wormed through the nation and to its highest offices, prompting a civil war and international coalition in 2015. Since then, the Council, a junta backed by the highly capable Vancouvian Special Forces, has ruled Meridian and transformed the neutral state into a platform for Vancouvian ambitions in the region, leveraging the very connection to the International District that Meridians once saw as the key to their independence as the tool of the state's subservience. As life slowly improves, will the Meridian people try to restore their democracy, or will the Council's safety triumph?
6. RPs: Vancouvia assumes protection of the ID: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=25524321
Independent District RP: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=356343
7. Other Info: ID factbook, on which most of Meridian was built: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1143323
The previous reformation effort for the ID: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=455830
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