Council of Nations - General Council

by **Tectonix** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:56 pm

"Found it!" he yells as he waves the unfinished manuscript, which he projects onto the big screen behind him.

http://pastebin.com/qbWSqv6a

by **Kihdis** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:07 pm

After reading the existing parts of the charter, Mouzla stands again.

"Excellent! It is good that we're outlining the duties of the executive members, but I have one question. The last few executives - Intervention Secretary, Attorney General and Supreme Allied Commander of the Peacekeepers - I believe we should have established wings of the Council for them to be the heads of, seeing as these positions relate to peacekeeping and international law. May I suggest that we establish the creation of these bodies before detailing these leaders' roles? That way we may have their positions in context."

by **Tectonix** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:42 pm

Kihdis wrote:After reading the existing parts of the charter, Mouzla stands again.

"Excellent! It is good that we're outlining the duties of the executive members, but I have one question. The last few executives - Intervention Secretary, Attorney General and Supreme Allied Commander of the Peacekeepers - I believe we should have established wings of the Council for them to be the heads of, seeing as these positions relate to peacekeeping and international law. May I suggest that we establish the creation of these bodies before detailing these leaders' roles? That way we may have their positions in context."

"Well, I believe that the AG should retain their own personal office, for it relates more to prosecution. as for the Secretary and SACP, I would argue they should be in the same, separate wing, for they have similar overlapping roles."

by **Novorossitov** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:28 am

Nikofor Anishin, the ambassador from Novorossitov to the Council of Nations, walks in and takes his seat.

He scans the room rather quickly and only finds two other people in the room. He reflected on the last time he was here, in the chamber. The last time he was there, the experience was rather short, and he hadn't been needed for anything concerning the CoN for some time after that. He was recently called up and now, there he was, sitting in the chamber yet again.

He decides to introduce himself, may it be to only two people.

"Hello comrades! My name is Nikofor Anishin, and I am the ambassador to the Council of Nations from Novorossitov. I am very sorry if I interrupted anything important you were about to say."

He held out his hand for both men to shake, first the man from Tectonix, then the man from Kihdis.

His eyes then set on the charter. He looked in intrigue at the document.

"Is that our charter, for the Council of Nation? Is this what we are discussing?"

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:08 am

The President nods at the incoming ambassador, saying, "Welcome, Comrade Anishin. You are correct, that is our current charter. It is currently a period of amendment and debate, so feel free to propose any amendments or question any portion of the charter, for we are trying to construct it."

by **Novorossitov** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:23 am

Nikofor looks over the charter and nods.

"It looks good, a bit short, but brevity is better compared to a lengthy 10-page document full of vocabulary, terms, and such that would be unreadable by the average human."

by **New Roma Republic** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:29 am

Orphius Logus walked into in the chamber, noticeably irritated. He had just been called off of the beach from Salderian Province. He glanced up at the podium. Oh, him he though of the alliance president as Logus took his seat. He's so unorganized. Hercules, son of Jupiter, the filius canis can't even find the charter! When it was finally found, Logus looked over it. "I sure hope this isn't the final document" he muttered.

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:30 am

The President looks over at the newly-arrived Ambassador, saying with slightly narrowed eyes, "Maintain your decorum, Ambassador Logus. No, this is not the final document, and if you were listening to my conversation with Ambassador Anishin, you would know what to do." Just before he finished, he quietly fished the gavel from a nearby cabinet and placed it on his desk, sensing that he may need to issue order decrees in the near future.

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:42 am

"Seeing as no one has come forth with an amendment at this time, I've taken the liberty of defining the rest of the members of the Executive Board."

http://pastebin.com/3YHR4rYP

by **Kihdis** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:52 am

Mouzla raises his placard.

"We must establish a military and legal council now as well. I propose that the IS and SACP be relegated to be the executives of a smaller council - the Council of Nations Military Directory - a council which is subject to this General Assembly's rule. The chief restriction on the CNMD's power being that they must appeal to the General Assembly for military action to be approved, and with a simple majority vote, they shall be approved. Then, the General Assembly will transfer full responsibility of the directive to the CNMD - they will be responsible for the planning, funding, and execution of the directive - under the condition that the General Assembly may un-authorise their action if it has been deemed a failure. This will also take a simple majority vote.
To keep the Council efficient, I suggest that the Directory's members be limited to three-year terms, with a maximum membership of thirteen. The General Assembly shall be responsible for the appointment, by simple majority again, of these thirteen members. The thirteen member nations will then be responsible for independently electing the IS and the SACP from themselves. These executives will also be on term limits of three years."

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:04 am

Kihdis wrote:Mouzla raises his placard.

"We must establish a military and legal council now as well. I propose that the IS and SACP be relegated to be the executives of a smaller council - the Council of Nations Military Directory - a council which is subject to this General Assembly's rule. The chief restriction on the CNMD's power being that they must appeal to the General Assembly for military action to be approved, and with a simple majority vote, they shall be approved. Then, the General Assembly will transfer full responsibility of the directive to the CNMD - they will be responsible for the planning, funding, and execution of the directive - under the condition that the General Assembly may un-authorise their action if it has been deemed a failure. This will also take a simple majority vote.
To keep the Council efficient, I suggest that the Directory's members be limited to three-year terms, with a maximum membership of thirteen. The General Assembly shall be responsible for the appointment, by simple majority again, of these thirteen members. The thirteen member nations will then be responsible for independently electing the IS and the SACP from themselves. These executives will also be on term limits of three years."

"I approve of your motion. You may add it to the current charter, if there are no objections."

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:15 pm

Greater France wrote:The name of our planned ambassador to the General Assembly is Oscar Morel.

[OOC: Just say he walked in]

"Welcome Ambassador Morel," the President says, "please take your seat, so you may exercise your speaking rights and propose amendments and addendums to the current charter."

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:33 pm

"I hereby propose the following amendment: All Member Nations of the Council of Nations shall be required to pay membership dues to the Council, in the form of either digital transfer or physical banknotes. The quantity of the due shall be 0.00005% of the Member Nation's GDP."

by **Matta** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:55 pm

Jensen Milton, Ambassador from Matta, entered the room a few minutes before they had mention tax for the council. He had been sitting quietly. He then spoke up saying

"I will have to discuss this with my fellow Oligarchs back in Matta, however I believe most of the oligarch will being willing to give a small tax. We should be able to inform the Council of our stance very soon."

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:13 pm

The President first addressed Ambassador Morel: "The tax would go towards maintaining the Peacekeeping Command, along with various, assorted expenses like maintenance and diplomatic trips."

Then he spoke to Ambassador Milton: "Abassador Milton, this tax is incredibly minute, and if it is indeed that your nation is operated by quote 'oligarchs,' then by definition their coffers must be so large that they can collectively afford a roughly 100 thousand bi-annual tax, depending on your GDP."

by **Matta** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:29 pm

"I am aware it is a minute tax. However, I am not going to agree to anything without consulting and affirming the position of the Oligarch. Like i said I have no problems against this tax, but my country's law is clear concerning decision making." Ambassador Milton replied

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:34 pm

"I understand, Ambassador Milton. You may find our encrypted phone lines in the room three doors down to your right from the chamber," Maxwell said as he pointed to the door and gestured his hand to the right.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:15 pm

Representative Naresh Ghandi of the East Asian Indian Socialist Republic arrives and takes his seat. He waits for anything interesting to occur.

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:25 pm

Frowning at the lack of input from the ambassadors, Maxwell remarks, "I hereby issue a Standing Order to suspend the debate and amendment process for the charter and place its continued formation to direct representative inquiry. I call this session into order as we move on to our next topic: What conflicts should the Council of Nations intervene in?"

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:40 pm

Tectonix wrote:Frowning at the lack of input from the ambassadors, Maxwell remarks, "I hereby issue a Standing Order to suspend the debate and amendment process for the charter and place its continued formation to direct representative inquiry. I call this session into order as we move on to our next topic: What conflicts should the Council of Nations intervene in?"

Ghandi steps up at this remark.

"While I can't speak for the entire council, East Asia will be more than glad to aide nations undergoing civil unrest and facing hostile aggression. Of course, this really only applies to allies of the revolutionary cause."

by **Tectonix** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:47 pm

Peering at the newly-arrived Ambassador, Maxwell replies, "Your words are noble, Ambassador Gandhi, but I ask of you, what specific conflicts shall we enter? Also, by 'revolutionary cause' are you referring to Marxist-Leninist political movements?"

Go to OOC for my other response.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:55 pm

"We don't consider ourselves Marxist-Leninist, although we do support revolutionary left wing movements. On the matter of the Council of nations, East Asia would be mostly willing to support any member state, assuming that their government aligns with our own. I believe the Council should seek to intervene in the cases where a nation needs aide (civil wars, political unrest). Especially against threats such as fascism."

by **Kihdis** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:09 pm

Mouzla stood up and spoke.

"Friends, I don't agree. I think that we should be allowed to intervene in any conflict that has proven to be extraordinarily deadly, so that we may preserve human rights in the regions. This may not always include supporting left-wing movements, but I think in the name of decency we should intervene wherever we can to preserve human welfare."

by **Novorossitov** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:21 pm

Nikofor clears his throat.

"I believe we should participate in civil wars, but not on the side of the rebels in situations in which the rebels do not have reason to rebel against the government, for example, when the government is democratic and not corrupt, nor supporting the government in civil conflicts where the people have reason to rebel, i. e. fascist government. Absolutely no conflicts in which both sides are undemocratic, for example, the rebels are fascist, and the government is hard-line Stalinist, and I believe that if we are going to participate in a head-on war, it may never be in favor of the invader and/or instigator. If the defending nation is undemocratic, we make no intervention regardless of the attacker's status.

Who here agrees with me?"

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:24 pm

Novorossitov wrote:
"I believe we should participate in civil wars, but not on the side of the rebels in situations in which the rebels do not have reason to rebel against the government, for example, when the government is democratic and not corrupt, nor supporting the government in civil conflicts where the people have reason to rebel, i. e. fascist government. Absolutely no conflicts in which both sides are undemocratic, for example, the rebels are fascist, and the government is hard-line Stalinist, and I believe that if we are going to participate in a head-on war, it may never be in favor of the invader and/or instigator. If the defending nation is undemocratic, we make no intervention regardless of the attacker's status.

Who here agrees with me?"

"I slightly disagree with the last quote. East Asia by the western definition isn't 'truly' democratic. We say that we have an all inclusive system that allows every worker's voice to be heard, but some will disagree with us. If the defending nation is 'undemocratic', we always have to look at the other. There are reasonably benevolent 'undemocratic' nations."

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