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Novorossitov
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Postby Novorossitov » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:52 pm

Council of Nations Admin wrote:Bringing an OOC chat back here, who wants to allow kustgebied to make his case, in IC in the Con Chamber

Important question first, what is his case? No one's being clear about why he needed to be banned.
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New Roma Republic
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Postby New Roma Republic » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:55 pm

ALSO, the charter should be decided on OOCly, so it can encompass both OOC powers and IC powers of the President, Sec Gen, Ambassador to the World, and the legislature.
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Kihdis
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Postby Kihdis » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:56 pm

Yes, we should write the charter here.
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Postby Council of Nations Admin » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:57 pm

Novorossitov wrote:
Council of Nations Admin wrote:Bringing an OOC chat back here, who wants to allow kustgebied to make his case, in IC in the Con Chamber

Important question first, what is his case? No one's being clear about why he needed to be banned.


page two of this topic, has the conversation that leads to his ban.


As for this being an OOC discussion on the ban, I'll remove it from being a topic in the CON Chambers, and we'll decide here.

As for the charter, I'll leave that also up to everyone else to decide if they want to make it out of character or in character. If the majority want it as an OOC thing, I'll also remove it form the CON Chambers discussion.
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Adevia-Ardvilla
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Postby Adevia-Ardvilla » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:04 pm

I notice that the poll has been removed. Why is that?

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New Roma Republic
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Postby New Roma Republic » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:05 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I notice that the poll has been removed. Why is that?

Probably because there was a clear cut winner: no puppets.
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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:05 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I notice that the poll has been removed. Why is that?

having been granted permission by our administrator account to post here

probably because you attempted to rig it
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Adevia-Ardvilla
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Postby Adevia-Ardvilla » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:05 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I notice that the poll has been removed. Why is that?

Probably because there was a clear cut winner: no puppets.

No, I mean the poll about Kustgebied's ban. Why was that removed? And I only voted with this nation. I didn't vote with any of my puppets. I don't know why 12 people voted no within the first minute of it being up.
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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:05 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I notice that the poll has been removed. Why is that?

Probably because there was a clear cut winner: no puppets.

think adevia's talking about the one he just tried to rig
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Postby Council of Nations Admin » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:06 pm

I will not be online for a little while today, just to inform you all.

Also Kustgebied is allowed to post on here to make his case for now.

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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:07 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:Probably because there was a clear cut winner: no puppets.

No, I mean the poll about Kustgebied's ban. Why was that removed? And I only voted with this nation. I didn't vote with any of my puppets. I don't know why 12 people voted no within the first minute of it being up.

oh gee, i think i might know
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Adevia-Ardvilla
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Postby Adevia-Ardvilla » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:09 pm

Kustgebied wrote:
Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:No, I mean the poll about Kustgebied's ban. Why was that removed? And I only voted with this nation. I didn't vote with any of my puppets. I don't know why 12 people voted no within the first minute of it being up.

oh gee, i think i might know

What was the reason, Kustgebied? I suspect that you rigged it with your puppets.

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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:09 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:
Kustgebied wrote:oh gee, i think i might know

What was the reason, Kustgebied? I suspect that you rigged it with your puppets.

to vote 'no'?

uh
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New Roma Republic
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Postby New Roma Republic » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:10 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla, why did you ban Kustgebied? I just looked at the entire argument on Page 2, and I saw no good reason why Kustgebied was banned. He disagreed with you, and you banned him. There was no good reason. And you never gave a reason as to why you did not want the discord. Kustgebied was unjustly banned, therefore, he should be immediately reinstated as a member in the CoN.
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Adevia-Ardvilla
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Postby Adevia-Ardvilla » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:11 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:Adevia-Ardvilla, why did you ban Kustgebied? I just looked at the entire argument on Page 2, and I saw no good reason why Kustgebied was banned. He disagreed with you, and you banned him. There was no good reason. And you never gave a reason as to why you did not want the discord. Kustgebied was unjustly banned, therefore, he should be immediately reinstated as a member in the CoN.

I banned Kustgebied because he caused OOC warfare. And I did not want the Discord because the Council didn't need one.

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Kihdis
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Postby Kihdis » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:12 pm

Considering this chaos, maybe it would be a better idea to get us to submit a formatted vote, like we had in the chamber. That way anonymous votes can't happen, and suspicious looking votes can be discarded.
I'd rather not have this big argument about Kustgebied again. I think they're okay because the Discord thing was just a miscommunication, and that we should stop acting aggressively towards one another here, since the thread could quickly turn into chaos and have people being warned or banned for real, not just by us.
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New Roma Republic
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Postby New Roma Republic » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:13 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:Adevia-Ardvilla, why did you ban Kustgebied? I just looked at the entire argument on Page 2, and I saw no good reason why Kustgebied was banned. He disagreed with you, and you banned him. There was no good reason. And you never gave a reason as to why you did not want the discord. Kustgebied was unjustly banned, therefore, he should be immediately reinstated as a member in the CoN.

I banned Kustgebied because he caused OOC warfare. And I did not want the Discord because the Council didn't need one.

So, you banned him because you can't handle someone disagreeing with you? I don't see how that constitutes OOC Warfare.

Why does the CoN not need a Discord? I'd think articulation with other alliances would be nice to have.
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Adevia-Ardvilla
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Postby Adevia-Ardvilla » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:14 pm

Kihdis wrote:Considering this chaos, maybe it would be a better idea to get us to submit a formatted vote, like we had in the chamber. That way anonymous votes can't happen, and suspicious looking votes can be discarded.
I'd rather not have this big argument about Kustgebied again. I think they're okay because the Discord thing was just a miscommunication, and that we should stop acting aggressively towards one another here, since the thread could quickly turn into chaos and have people being warned or banned for real, not just by us.

Okay. I'll start doing that now, and OP, Kustgebied was only allowed to post to explain his case. He was not unbanned so that he could argue with me.

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Novorossitov
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Postby Novorossitov » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:15 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I banned Kustgebied because he caused OOC warfare. And I did not want the Discord because the Council didn't need one.

OOC Warfare? No, I saw nothing resembling that at all. Kustgebied just asked why you so vehemently didn't want a Discord and you never gave a reason then kicked him. Guess that's what happens when two people with a bad history try to reason.
Relax people, this nation doesn't represent my real political views.

Call me Novo!

We are not Novorossiya, we are not Russia, we are a fictional nation situated in the Americas formerly colonized by the Russian-Swedish Commonwealth. (Also fictional) Novorossitov runs in real-time, and we are currently in the year 2018.

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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:15 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:
Kihdis wrote:Considering this chaos, maybe it would be a better idea to get us to submit a formatted vote, like we had in the chamber. That way anonymous votes can't happen, and suspicious looking votes can be discarded.
I'd rather not have this big argument about Kustgebied again. I think they're okay because the Discord thing was just a miscommunication, and that we should stop acting aggressively towards one another here, since the thread could quickly turn into chaos and have people being warned or banned for real, not just by us.

Okay. I'll start doing that now, and OP, Kustgebied was only allowed to post to explain his case. He was not unbanned so that he could argue with me.

and i am arguing my case.

https://discord.gg/VwYY9MS

Unofficial Discord, if anyone wants to join.
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Adevia-Ardvilla
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Postby Adevia-Ardvilla » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:18 pm

Kustgebied wrote:
Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:Okay. I'll start doing that now, and OP, Kustgebied was only allowed to post to explain his case. He was not unbanned so that he could argue with me.

and i am arguing my case.

https://discord.gg/VwYY9MS

Unofficial Discord, if anyone wants to join.

That isn't a argument, Kustgebied. You need to explain why you think you should be unbanned and what you think about me.

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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:19 pm

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:
Kustgebied wrote:and i am arguing my case.

https://discord.gg/VwYY9MS

Unofficial Discord, if anyone wants to join.

That isn't a argument, Kustgebied. You need to explain why you think you should be unbanned and what you think about me.

I should be unbanned because there was no reason other than 'I disagree with Kustgebied' as the reason for the ban.
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Xuskeuclite
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Postby Xuskeuclite » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:20 pm

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RP Name: Xuskeuclite
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Flardania
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Postby Flardania » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:22 pm

Just observing as I am interested in this group. But these claims of OOC warfare has been a warning sign to me personally.
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Kustgebied
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Postby Kustgebied » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:23 pm

Flardania wrote:Just observing as I am interested in this group. But these claims of OOC warfare has been a warning sign to me personally.

ooc warfare is tum

adevia labelling everything i say as ooc warfare does not equal ooc warfare in reality
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