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Postby New Aeyariss » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:38 pm

Neu Engollon wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:#LetHatayDebate.

But really. I want to see the threatening passive-aggressive comments that the Hatayan representatives get from the others.


Or maybe this could not be turned into another SACTO vs IFC or somebody thread, IC or OOC? Some of us don't care about all that political BS. I trust Riysa to reject who he feels would bring the unnecessary drama and drag down the RP.


I think he meant IC history between Hatay & Riysa / few other SACTO members, which, firmly speaking, wasn't most positive.

Also, shouldn't BLUFOR have some commander designated to preside over planing? If that is the case I propose Organized States.
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Postby Riysa » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:41 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Neu Engollon wrote:
Or maybe this could not be turned into another SACTO vs IFC or somebody thread, IC or OOC? Some of us don't care about all that political BS. I trust Riysa to reject who he feels would bring the unnecessary drama and drag down the RP.


I think he meant IC history between Hatay & Riysa / few other SACTO members, which, firmly speaking, wasn't most positive.

Also, shouldn't BLUFOR have some commander designated to preside over planing? If that is the case I propose Organized States.


What I was going to do was write basic briefings for BLUFOR pointing out what needed to be done, and then let you guys work out the details. Whatever you guys pick, however, do remember to coordinate between yourselves - you are one team, after all.

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Postby Hatay » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:43 pm

I have never and never will engage in OOC rancor with other NationStaters, and it is somewhat hurtful to hear others insinuate that I would do so. I just intend to act as a Non-SACTO observer.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:52 pm

Hatay wrote:I have never and never will engage in OOC rancor with other NationStaters, and it is somewhat hurtful to hear others insinuate that I would do so. I just intend to act as a Non-SACTO observer.

And all I intended was that my characters were going to be pretty salty towards the Hatayans.
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Postby Hatay » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:57 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Hatay wrote:I have never and never will engage in OOC rancor with other NationStaters, and it is somewhat hurtful to hear others insinuate that I would do so. I just intend to act as a Non-SACTO observer.

And all I intended was that my characters were going to be pretty salty towards the Hatayans.

Looking forward to it. :p
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Postby Neu Engollon » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:53 pm

Alright, sounds good. As long as it's all IC, but why would observers even be invited or accepted into the country who had such animosity towards Riysa and their allies?
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Postby Sareva » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:25 pm

Nation Name: The Kingdom of Sareva
Participating Branch Name: Kingdom of Sareva Air Force - Foreign Training Command
Attendees:
Maria si Natonez
Age: 28
Height: 5' 9"
Gender: Female
Rank: Lieutenant Major

Brief Bio:
Maria was born in Sacatan Province, a more rural and less-developed area then the rest of the nation, known for rolling hills and expansive farms. Her parents were owners of a gas station in a remote village situated along the Autoroute 12, which cut through the province bringing goods and finished products to the farmers, while carrying produce and yearly crops out. Her father was a former pilot with the Air Force, flying the venerable F-4J Phantom during his length of service, finally retiring in 1989, planning to take care of his daughter and two sons. During Maria's time in school, she was known to be an avid reader, but severely lacked in her mathematical skills. After receiving rigorous tutoring throughout her upper-level schooling, she went to the Air Force Academy to follow in her father's footsteps.

She excelled in both the in-class and flying settings, regularly out-performing the majority of the other candidates. During her training, however, her oldest brother died while serving in Afghanistan with the Air Force primary special operations forces, the Black Bats. Her performance sharply fell, nearly having herself disqualified in a mandatory fitness exercise. After an instructor gave Maria a pep-talk, she renewed her efforts, finishing in the top ten percent, as well as being recommended for an immediate promotion and given the opportunity in the prestigious Foreign Training Command. This outcome had Maria finding herself being stationed at bases around the world with Sarevan partners, such as the United States and Germany. Lieutenant Major si Natonez is currently stationed at the Joint Flight Training Center, located at Carlton Joint Air Base.


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Postby Riysa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:49 pm

Neu Engollon wrote:-snip-


Atmaera wrote:-snip-


Sareva wrote:-snip-


Before I forget, all accepted. I'm currently working on a pre-IC briefing, which I'll let everyone know about.

It would be nice, though, to get one more person on board, so we can make it an even 10.

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Postby Riysa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:24 pm

I've gotten the preliminary ORBAT up for OpFor. TaH-27s will roughly correspond to MiG-29s, and TaH-30s to MiG-31s, with certain exceptions I'll note in the remainder of the pre-IC briefing tomorrow.

As for participants, I'm still accepting more people to come fly for the allied force. Come one, come all, to Desert Hawks 2016! :)

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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:29 am

Nation Name:The Imperium of Birtonia
Participating Branch Name:Imperium Militare Adeptus Aerus
Units Participating: 1st Composite Strike Force
Commanding Officers: Knight-Colonel Clyde Gamboa
Equipment list:
Fighter/Strike Aircraft:
F/A-33Wolf Stealth Air Superiority Fighter x6
A-18 Drak VTOL Attack Craft x6

[u]Remotely Piloted Aircraft/UAVs (Max of 6):
QM-15 TORUS (Theater Observation & Reconnaissance Unmanned System) x1
Q/F-60G Ronin Multi-Role Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle x6



Bomber and Support Aircraft:
E/A-60D Thresher Electronic Warfare Fighter x2

B-8H Haast Strategic Bomber x2

KC-14B Novatanker Mid-air Refueler x1

C-14B Novalifter Cargo Transport x1



Surface to Air Missile Systems:

M-108 Mobile SAM emplacement x12 positions = 1 Battery



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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:37 am

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Postby Neu Engollon » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:36 am

Not that I'd be able to join much depending on the times everyone is on, but for team planning purposes, maybe we could all get on an IRC channel (#deserthawks ?) or google doc or something?
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Postby Hatay » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:20 pm

Am I in?
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:27 pm

Hatay wrote:Am I in?

I'd guess probs not. Hatayans would probably not be welcome in this exercise. It'd be a shame for one of them to have an accident.
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Postby Sareva » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:39 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Hatay wrote:Am I in?

I'd guess probs not. Hatayans would probably not be welcome in this exercise. It'd be a shame for one of them to have an accident.

Ouch.
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Postby Riysa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:43 pm

Neu Engollon wrote:Not that I'd be able to join much depending on the times everyone is on, but for team planning purposes, maybe we could all get on an IRC channel (#deserthawks ?) or google doc or something?


I agree. I'll set up an Esper IRC and link it here for everyone to use.

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Hatay wrote:Am I in?

I'd guess probs not. Hatayans would probably not be welcome in this exercise. It'd be a shame for one of them to have an accident.


Considering the IC relations between our countries, unfortunately not, Hatay.

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I'd like to accept you, but I noticed that you're using Pharthan stuff, which unfortunately falls into the PMT category, so I can't accept that.

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Postby Riysa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Alright, I've set up an IRC for everyone to use; please use your NS name when logging on. I've also gotten the pre-IC briefing up, while I'll generate the people on quick reaction alert and such tomorrow morning.

If everything's set, I'll send out a mass TG tomorrow morning as well, and we'll be ready to go! :)

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Postby Neu Engollon » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:55 am

Riysa wrote:The airspace local airspace is trafficked by commercial and private aircraft. While this would disappear in the event of a war, initial planning must take this into account.


I'm slightly confused. Are civilian/private aircraft not being rerouted out of the area of operations for the exercise?
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Postby Riysa » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:58 am

Neu Engollon wrote:
Riysa wrote:The airspace local airspace is trafficked by commercial and private aircraft. While this would disappear in the event of a war, initial planning must take this into account.


I'm slightly confused. Are civilian/private aircraft not being rerouted out of the area of operations for the exercise?


The briefing is written in an IC fashion. Civvie aircraft will not actually be entering the airspace around or in the exercise; instead, aircraft with corner reflectors will be flying sometimes to represent non-combatant traffic.

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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:51 am

What exactly are you not accepting, I think stealth fighters are perfectly acceptable, the only thing I could think of is the unmanned fighter craft, which is no big deal I can change.

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Postby Aquitayne » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:41 am

Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:What exactly are you not accepting, I think stealth fighters are perfectly acceptable, the only thing I could think of is the unmanned fighter craft, which is no big deal I can change.


Pharthan's stuff as a whole is largely PMT. I can't speak for Riysa on this but I think he was implying that Pharthan's goods are a no-go entirely, rather than just the obvious PMT unmanned fighter aircraft. But again he'll have to clarify that for you. He asked my why I didn't bring in my F-29's, so I don't think he has any issues with stealth aircraft.
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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:45 am

Aquitayne wrote:
Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:What exactly are you not accepting, I think stealth fighters are perfectly acceptable, the only thing I could think of is the unmanned fighter craft, which is no big deal I can change.


Pharthan's stuff as a whole is largely PMT. I can't speak for Riysa on this but I think he was implying that Pharthan's goods are a no-go entirely, rather than just the obvious PMT unmanned fighter aircraft. But again he'll have to clarify that for you. He asked my why I didn't bring in my F-29's, so I don't think he has any issues with stealth aircraft.


Yeah I'll just wait and see

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Postby Riysa » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:51 am

Aquitayne wrote:
Military Democracy of Birtonia wrote:What exactly are you not accepting, I think stealth fighters are perfectly acceptable, the only thing I could think of is the unmanned fighter craft, which is no big deal I can change.


Pharthan's stuff as a whole is largely PMT. I can't speak for Riysa on this but I think he was implying that Pharthan's goods are a no-go entirely, rather than just the obvious PMT unmanned fighter aircraft. But again he'll have to clarify that for you. He asked my why I didn't bring in my F-29's, so I don't think he has any issues with stealth aircraft.


Exactly. Pharthan stuff is pretty firmly PMT, which since this is an MT RP, wouldn't work. If I had an issue with stealth aircraft, I would've mentioned it in the OP, and would have not accepted Kobolis or New Aeyariss.

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Postby Military Democracy of Birtonia » Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:57 am

Riysa wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:
Pharthan's stuff as a whole is largely PMT. I can't speak for Riysa on this but I think he was implying that Pharthan's goods are a no-go entirely, rather than just the obvious PMT unmanned fighter aircraft. But again he'll have to clarify that for you. He asked my why I didn't bring in my F-29's, so I don't think he has any issues with stealth aircraft.


Exactly. Pharthan stuff is pretty firmly PMT, which since this is an MT RP, wouldn't work. If I had an issue with stealth aircraft, I would've mentioned it in the OP, and would have not accepted Kobolis or New Aeyariss.

Alright then.

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Postby Riysa » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:18 pm

IC up in a few hours. Final call.

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