International Freedom Coalition (OOC, IFC/apps/invites only)

[Aeyariss]

Palm your country better be stable this time around, you can’t just have tons of terror attacks going on all the time. Also we’ll probably discuss canon stuff later.

Well, might as well go in and "stabilize" Palmyrion under some "humanitarian intervention". mission.

[Guadalupador]

Palm your country better be stable this time around, you can’t just have tons of terror attacks going on all the time. Also we’ll probably discuss canon stuff later.

Well, might as well go in and "stabilize" Palmyrion under some "humanitarian intervention". mission.

We tried that last time, didn’t go well.

[Palmyrion]

Well, might as well go in and "stabilize" Palmyrion under some "humanitarian intervention". mission.

We tried that last time, didn’t go well.

Well that's because a good lot of you guys - Neo and WPT - derailed everything.

Secondly, I discussed this already in Discord with Inyursta, Guad, and Cuscy. We're gonna have these radical groups, in reality big tent groups to which its constituents pledge allegiance to: Christian, Islamist, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Socialist, and LGBT Nazi groups. In the urban areas they'd be mostly gangs, with suburban and rural areas having cartels, and the remote areas having full blown insurgencies. All three are largely contained, with maybe one major incident every two months.

[Flardania]

Give the council something to do and put it to a vote? (Just shooting a random suggestion)

[Aeyariss]

Well that's because a good lot of you guys - Neo and WPT - derailed everything.

Secondly, I discussed this already in Discord with Inyursta, Guad, and Cuscy. We're gonna have these radical groups, in reality big tent groups to which its constituents pledge allegiance to: Christian, Islamist, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Socialist, and LGBT Nazi groups. In the urban areas they'd be mostly gangs, with suburban and rural areas having cartels, and the remote areas having full blown insurgencies. All three are largely contained, with maybe one major incident every two months.

It's a joke, bruv. I forgot the usual emoji.

Edit: wait....

...with maybe one major incident every two months.

[Palmyrion]

Well that's because a good lot of you guys - Neo and WPT - derailed everything.

Secondly, I discussed this already in Discord with Inyursta, Guad, and Cuscy. We're gonna have these radical groups, in reality big tent groups to which its constituents pledge allegiance to: Christian, Islamist, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Socialist, and LGBT Nazi groups. In the urban areas they'd be mostly gangs, with suburban and rural areas having cartels, and the remote areas having full blown insurgencies. All three are largely contained, with maybe one major incident every two months.

It's a joke, bruv. I forgot the usual emoji.

Edit: wait....

...with maybe one major incident every two months.

We're talking violent gang wars lasting for a week, then getting violently yeeted by gendarmerie and police and, in many cases, the army. In the rural areas, maybe cartels leaving behind a few more bodies than usual.

(Oh, and please DM me the link to the Discord server.)

EDIT: yes, you heard that right. Queer Nazi groups, just like what Allanea made (according to Cuscy).

[The United Remnants of America]

It's a joke, bruv. I forgot the usual emoji.

Edit: wait....

We're talking violent gang wars lasting for a week, then getting violently yeeted by gendarmerie and police and, in many cases, the army. In the rural areas, maybe cartels leaving behind a few more bodies than usual.

(Oh, and please DM me the link to the Discord server.)

EDIT: yes, you heard that right. Queer Nazi groups, just like what Allanea made (according to Cuscy).

That's not stable, mate.

That's a failing state.

[Palmyrion]

We're talking violent gang wars lasting for a week, then getting violently yeeted by gendarmerie and police and, in many cases, the army. In the rural areas, maybe cartels leaving behind a few more bodies than usual.

(Oh, and please DM me the link to the Discord server.)

EDIT: yes, you heard that right. Queer Nazi groups, just like what Allanea made (according to Cuscy).

That's not stable, mate.

That's a failing state.

Guys, hear me out. I just wanna RP Palmyrion-KY as a state that's basically a liberal social democracy that is under siege, with all the groups here and then causing chaos occasionally but are, for the most part, largely contained (though not without brutal violence from government forces). Basically, it has armed dissident groups of various causes that cause chaos from time to time and make the headlines everytime they do, but are largely contained.

On the other hand, Palmyrion-GD just got out of a short period of civil strife following an economic boom, culminating into a violent 2-year civil war, and is reconstructing itself. (And I intend to keep both continuities separate from each other.)

[The United Remnants of America]

That's not stable, mate.

That's a failing state.

Guys, hear me out. I just wanna RP Palmyrion-KY as a state that's basically a liberal social democracy that is under siege, with all the groups here and then causing chaos occasionally but are, for the most part, largely contained (though not without brutal violence from government forces). Basically, it has armed dissident groups of various causes that cause chaos from time to time and make the headlines everytime they do, but are largely contained.

On the other hand, Palmyrion-GD just got out of a short period of civil strife following an economic boom, culminating into a violent 2-year civil war, and is reconstructing itself. (And I intend to keep both continuities separate from each other.)

I'm not telling you it's a bad choice or not to do it. By all means have fun and write whatever you want to write.

But if you're RP'ing Mexico, you'll have a hard time convincing me it's Canada.

[Palmyrion]

Guys, hear me out. I just wanna RP Palmyrion-KY as a state that's basically a liberal social democracy that is under siege, with all the groups here and then causing chaos occasionally but are, for the most part, largely contained (though not without brutal violence from government forces). Basically, it has armed dissident groups of various causes that cause chaos from time to time and make the headlines everytime they do, but are largely contained.

On the other hand, Palmyrion-GD just got out of a short period of civil strife following an economic boom, culminating into a violent 2-year civil war, and is reconstructing itself. (And I intend to keep both continuities separate from each other.)

I'm not telling you it's a bad choice or not to do it. By all means have fun and write whatever you want to write.

But if you're RP'ing Mexico, you'll have a hard time convincing me it's Canada.

Palmyrion is basically a liberal social democracy under siege from armed groups within its borders - and at its front yard lay such countries as Haiphong and Sayong, which have an axe to grind with Palmyrion.

It's got universal healthcare coverage (based on the national healthcare insurance system and healthcare vouchers), full set of LGBT rights and liberties granted to the LGBT community (please don't beat me up OOCly on this one), has a narcotics policy similar to Portugal, is a secularist society, and universal education (based on education vouchers). However, its armed dissidents lurk in the wayside, occasionally causing trouble.

So, it's a socially progressive country, with a problem of armed groups. Is it Mexico? Or, Canada but more dystopian? You tell me. (And are my aforementioned stats, plus an HDI of 0.700-0.800, compatible with what I just said?)

[The United Remnants of America]

I'm not telling you it's a bad choice or not to do it. By all means have fun and write whatever you want to write.

But if you're RP'ing Mexico, you'll have a hard time convincing me it's Canada.

Palmyrion is basically a liberal social democracy under siege from armed groups within its borders - and at its front yard lay such countries as Haiphong and Sayong, which have an axe to grind with Palmyrion.

It's got universal healthcare coverage (based on the national healthcare insurance system and healthcare vouchers), full set of LGBT rights and liberties granted to the LGBT community (please don't beat me up OOCly on this one), has a narcotics policy similar to Portugal, is a secularist society, and universal education (based on education vouchers). However, its armed dissidents lurk in the wayside, occasionally causing trouble.

So, it's a socially progressive country, with a problem of armed groups. Is it Mexico? Or, Canada but more dystopian? You tell me. (And are my aforementioned stats, plus an HDI of 0.700-0.800, compatible with what I just said?)

I'd say an HDI of .75 or so is good for a country like that.

I guess I just find it... Unique, that your nation would be so highly developed in the sense a social democracy, and yet have organized armed revolts.

I mean, in the real world, any nation can have gang violence, but you've kind of focused on that fact that these are conflicts that make national news, meaning they have to be some major conflicts, more on par with some form of rebellion, revolt, or very active and organized terrorist organization.

[Palmyrion]

Palmyrion is basically a liberal social democracy under siege from armed groups within its borders - and at its front yard lay such countries as Haiphong and Sayong, which have an axe to grind with Palmyrion.

It's got universal healthcare coverage (based on the national healthcare insurance system and healthcare vouchers), full set of LGBT rights and liberties granted to the LGBT community (please don't beat me up OOCly on this one), has a narcotics policy similar to Portugal, is a secularist society, and universal education (based on education vouchers). However, its armed dissidents lurk in the wayside, occasionally causing trouble.

So, it's a socially progressive country, with a problem of armed groups. Is it Mexico? Or, Canada but more dystopian? You tell me. (And are my aforementioned stats, plus an HDI of 0.700-0.800, compatible with what I just said?)

I'd say an HDI of .75 or so is good for a country like that.

I guess I just find it... Unique, that your nation would be so highly developed in the sense a social democracy, and yet have organized armed revolts.

I mean, in the real world, any nation can have gang violence, but you've kind of focused on that fact that these are conflicts that make national news, meaning they have to be some major conflicts, more on par with some form of rebellion, revolt, or very active and organized terrorist organization.

The armed groups are, in reality, big tent groups with various subgroups pledging allegiance to them and their cause, ranging from gangs in urban and suburban areas, to cartels in the rural areas, to full blown insurgencies in the remote areas. For the most part though, they're largely contained.

Think of it like this: what if the Philippines' own New People's Army started raising communist gangs in Metro Manila, and these gangs started causing all sorts of chaos?

[The United Remnants of America]

I'd say an HDI of .75 or so is good for a country like that.

I guess I just find it... Unique, that your nation would be so highly developed in the sense a social democracy, and yet have organized armed revolts.

I mean, in the real world, any nation can have gang violence, but you've kind of focused on that fact that these are conflicts that make national news, meaning they have to be some major conflicts, more on par with some form of rebellion, revolt, or very active and organized terrorist organization.

The armed groups are, in reality, big tent groups with various subgroups pledging allegiance to them and their cause, ranging from gangs in urban and suburban areas, to cartels in the rural areas, to full blown insurgencies in the remote areas. For the most part though, they're largely contained.

Think of it like this: what if the Philippines' own New People's Army started raising communist gangs in Metro Manila, and these gangs started causing all sorts of chaos?

Then that would be an unstable country.

And honestly, and risking some dumb discussion, I don't consider the Philippines a stable country, because generally stable countries don't have to declare martial law on an entire section of their country due to a terrorist uprising and let thousands of civilians die in an internal conflict.

So if I was told Palmyrion is having a fucking Marawi every couple months, then Palmyrion can have all the rights and liberal democracy it wants, but I wouldn't consider it stable in the slightest.

[Palmyrion]

The armed groups are, in reality, big tent groups with various subgroups pledging allegiance to them and their cause, ranging from gangs in urban and suburban areas, to cartels in the rural areas, to full blown insurgencies in the remote areas. For the most part though, they're largely contained.

Think of it like this: what if the Philippines' own New People's Army started raising communist gangs in Metro Manila, and these gangs started causing all sorts of chaos?

Then that would be an unstable country.

And honestly, and risking some dumb discussion, I don't consider the Philippines a stable country, because generally stable countries don't have to declare martial law on an entire section of their country due to a terrorist uprising and let thousands of civilians die in an internal conflict.

So if I was told Palmyrion is having a fucking Marawi every couple months, then Palmyrion can have all the rights and liberal democracy it wants, but I wouldn't consider it stable in the slightest.

Palmyrion doesn't have one Marawi every couple months. Just your average gang violence making the headlines. Stuff like bank robberies to targeted murders and even large-scale gang warfare. Gangs are basically how these armed groups operate in cities. Then you have rural slaver cartels.

Basically, Mexico - but instead of drugs, people fight over slaves and religion, and like the cartels of Mexico are engaged in a violent cat-and-mouse game with the state.

[Greater Carloso]

What immediately comes to mind regarding all the violence in Palmyrion is the RL example of the Years of Lead in Italy in the 1960s, 70s and 80s where far-left and certain neo-fascist groups were responsible for various incidents. Italy, of course was a NATO member throughout that time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)

Now, of course this period of instability didn't end up in thousands of people dying, but there is some precedent for the instability in Palmyrion. Maybe The Troubles in the British occupation zone located in the province of Ulster could be comparable as well, though I get the impression the Palmyrian conflict is far more bloody.

[Palmyrion]

What immediately comes to mind regarding all the violence in Palmyrion is the RL example of the Years of Lead in Italy in the 1960s, 70s and 80s where far-left and certain neo-fascist groups were responsible for various incidents. Italy, of course was a NATO member throughout that time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)

Now, of course this period of instability didn't end up in thousands of people dying, but there is some precedent for the instability in Palmyrion. Maybe The Troubles in the British occupation zone located in the province of Ulster could be comparable as well, though I get the impression the Palmyrian conflict is far more bloody.

Basically that. Years of Lead being the theme, but consisting of the violence of the Troubles appropriately scaled up (because Palmyrion has a much larger population than Northern Ireland).

You have, in Palmyrion, extremist big tent groups to whom rural slaver cartels and urban gangs pledge allegiance to, and for whom they operate. They effectively become a cross between criminal syndicates and insurgent groups.

Additionally, I will be RPing all - and I mean ALL - Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus in Palmyrion as firebrand ultra-moralists (misogyny, homophobia, the sort) unless otherwise stated.

[New Roma Republic]

Give the council something to do and put it to a vote? (Just shooting a random suggestion)

There still is a resolution at vote...

[Inyourfaceistan]

I mean nature is unstable and chaos is the default option so...

[Mizrad]

I mean nature is unstable and chaos is the default option so...

I've got an upcoming character/nation RP that I'd love y'all to be involved with, especially the SACTO folk if you're available Inyursta.

[Inyourfaceistan]

I mean nature is unstable and chaos is the default option so...

I've got an upcoming character/nation RP that I'd love y'all to be involved with, especially the SACTO folk if you're available Inyursta.

Define "upcoming"?

I am swamped (lol) with my Master's thesis paper until Mid-May, then (assuming COVID doesn't mess it all up) I'll be down in Central America for a month.
But if you're aiming for something in the July or later timeframe then I might have time.

(Also don't forget Inyursta is still in the IFC)

[Aravea]

I mean nature is unstable and chaos is the default option so...

I've got an upcoming character/nation RP that I'd love y'all to be involved with, especially the SACTO folk if you're available Inyursta.

I'd be happy to jump in, assuming you don't mind Aravea taking part.

[Mizrad]

I've got an upcoming character/nation RP that I'd love y'all to be involved with, especially the SACTO folk if you're available Inyursta.

Define "upcoming"?

I am swamped (lol) with my Master's thesis paper until Mid-May, then (assuming COVID doesn't mess it all up) I'll be down in Central America for a month.
But if you're aiming for something in the July or later timeframe then I might have time.

(Also don't forget Inyursta is still in the IFC)

Yes I know, just figured it'd be a good way to tie both groups in.

Regarding the time frame I would say odds are it won't be up until around likely May.

[Mizrad]

I've got an upcoming character/nation RP that I'd love y'all to be involved with, especially the SACTO folk if you're available Inyursta.

I'd be happy to jump in, assuming you don't mind Aravea taking part.

I'm sure everyone could find a place in it.

[Cambrian Albany]

Gents, not looking for a fucking gangbang from you but if a few of you liberal minded folk want to stop The Holy Cambrian Empire from occupying an Islamic Republic and denying them basic freedoms then feel free to hop in please..
I am dying for a decent combat RP.

[Mizrad]

Gents, not looking for a fucking gangbang from you but if a few of you liberal minded folk want to stop The Holy Cambrian Empire from occupying an Islamic Republic and denying them basic freedoms then feel free to hop in please..
I am dying for a decent combat RP.

I may take a light role just to get back into the swing of things, been in a minute since I've been involved with a II RP.