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Guadalupador
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Founded: Oct 08, 2011
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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:31 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Aeyariss wrote:'Recognition' in what context?

Just a document stating the other's existence.

I thought both organizations recognized each other already?
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The Swiss Guardsmen
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Founded: Dec 11, 2009
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Postby The Swiss Guardsmen » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:46 pm

Flardania wrote:I wouldn't call myself Theocratic but does heavily influence by state religion count?

Haha, I forgot there for a second! :p Sure counts in my book!
Nation Name: The Sanctified Republic of Veltria
Goverment: Unitary Theocratic Republic
Deomnym: "Veltrian"
Membership: IFC
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The United Remnants of America
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Founded: Mar 09, 2013
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:06 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:Just a document stating the other's existence.

I thought both organizations recognized each other already?

There's no official documentation.

I was just coming up with a diplomatic thing to do if we wanted to do.
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Aeyariss
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Founded: Mar 26, 2010
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Postby Aeyariss » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:11 pm

The Israeli-PLO Letters? Afaik Israeli still doesnt recognize the state of Palestine in de jure sense.
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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:12 pm

Aeyariss wrote:The Israeli-PLO Letters? Afaik Israeli still doesnt recognize the state of Palestine in de jure sense.

We can be more progressive than Israel then, right?
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Winner of 2015 Best of P2TM Awards: Best Roleplayer - War
"I would much rather be with you than against you, you're way too imaginative."
"URA New Confucius 2015."- Organized States
"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
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Roskian Federation
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:18 pm

I feel like its still impossible to not recognize another alliance, and I dont think documentation is required.

Its not even a reasonable question to ask.
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Aeyariss
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Founded: Mar 26, 2010
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Postby Aeyariss » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:31 pm

Technically I left SACTO almost a year ago, so its really none of my official concern, but yes IMO IFC-SACTO can be progressive than Israeli-Palestine.

For the record I think there were some OOC declaration stated IFC-SACTO not to dejurely recognize one another. (After the whole fuss unleashed by Wrath and Aravea War; apparently, the only way not to rp with SACTO - and getting IFC collective bum streamrolled is by not recognizing, hence removing the neccesity to rp with, SACTO).

But to fair to Lib, his adminstration kinda unilaterally removed IFC ban when he appointed one of the dual members to become somesort of liaison in official capacity. Though the rest of the High Command felt somehow relations will be warmer if the former IFC PM is no longer in charge.

So yes, relations is definitely moving in the right direction I believed.

Previously when I was helping with the administration of both Axis and SACTO, de jure recognition , like documentation is for IC stuff, de facto is more to casual sense; if we didnt recognize them we wont waste time initiating contact in their forum. Simply engaging one another, in practical sense is part of de facto recognition.

The United Remnants of America wrote:We can be more progressive than Israel then, right?
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Roskian Federation
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:38 pm

I think the IFC needs to find itself a jolly little war to bring hopes up
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Aeyariss
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Postby Aeyariss » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:42 pm

Roskian Federation wrote:I think the IFC needs to find itself a jolly little war to bring hopes up


Yep, I agree.
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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:46 pm

Roskian Federation wrote:I think the IFC needs to find itself a jolly little war to bring hopes up

Aravean War II: Electric Boogaloo.
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Aravea
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Postby Aravea » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:54 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:I think the IFC needs to find itself a jolly little war to bring hopes up

Aravean War II: Electric Boogaloo.



Well, I wouldn't be opposed to another Aravean War... ;)
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New Chilokver
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Postby New Chilokver » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:57 pm

here i was hoping socintern would be a decent successor to the ul
apparently not

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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:58 pm

New Chilokver wrote:here i was hoping socintern would be a decent successor to the ul
apparently not

Good meme, friend.
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Winner of 2015 Best of P2TM Awards: Best Roleplayer - War
"I would much rather be with you than against you, you're way too imaginative."
"URA New Confucius 2015."- Organized States
"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
"Unfiltered, concentrated, possibly weaponized stupidity."
Thafoo, Leningrad Union: DEAT'd for your sins.
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Roskian Federation
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Founded: Jul 13, 2016
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:58 pm

New Chilokver wrote:here i was hoping socintern would be a decent successor to the ul
apparently not


they failed our expectations

seems like a good reason to launch a mass invasion, no?
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Aeyariss
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Founded: Mar 26, 2010
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Postby Aeyariss » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:59 pm

New Chilokver wrote:here i was hoping socintern would be a decent successor to the ul
apparently not

Totally get that feeling.
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Roskian Federation
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:04 pm

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Guadalupador
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Founded: Oct 08, 2011
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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:05 pm

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Roskian Federation
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:08 pm

nevermind that thread rapidly devolved to OOC crying and screaming.
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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:11 pm


I also want to fight the LARU.
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Winner of 2015 Best of P2TM Awards: Best Roleplayer - War
"I would much rather be with you than against you, you're way too imaginative."
"URA New Confucius 2015."- Organized States
"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
"Unfiltered, concentrated, possibly weaponized stupidity."
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Roskian Federation
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:11 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:We can totally do this.

I also want to fight the LARU.


?
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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:12 pm

Roskian Federation wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:I also want to fight the LARU.


?

Leftist Agrarian Revolutionary Union.
By any means necessary. Call me URA
Winner of 2015 Best of P2TM Awards: Best Roleplayer - War
"I would much rather be with you than against you, you're way too imaginative."
"URA New Confucius 2015."- Organized States
"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
"Unfiltered, concentrated, possibly weaponized stupidity."
Thafoo, Leningrad Union: DEAT'd for your sins.
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Roskian Federation
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Postby Roskian Federation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:13 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:
?

Leftist Agrarian Revolutionary Union.


any particular reason?
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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:16 pm

Roskian Federation wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:Leftist Agrarian Revolutionary Union.


any particular reason?

Nah, they just have aggressive rhetoric, and if we want a war, I'm sure we can get the war-hungry communists to have one.
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Winner of 2015 Best of P2TM Awards: Best Roleplayer - War
"I would much rather be with you than against you, you're way too imaginative."
"URA New Confucius 2015."- Organized States
"Congrats. You just won the second place prize for Not Giving a Fuck. First Place, of course, always goes to Furry."
"He's an 8 Ball, DEN. You can't deal with an 8 Ball." - Empire of Donner land
"This Rp is flexible with science and so will you." - Tagali Federation
"I'm confused as to your tactic but I'll trust you." - Die erworbenen Namen
"Unfiltered, concentrated, possibly weaponized stupidity."
Thafoo, Leningrad Union: DEAT'd for your sins.
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Flardania
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Founded: Nov 13, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Flardania » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:38 pm

New Chilokver wrote:
Roskian Federation wrote:
unless laa has been booted, him/her :P

I don't remember if Chilo bb is IFC, but I'm certain he is leftistish

apparently Val is still IFC, so val too

you don't remember if I am ifc
damn, I wonder who's been speaker for the past summit and election :p
Flardania wrote:I'm center/ center-left.....

aren't u also sacto tho

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The Northern Chinese Provinces
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Postby The Northern Chinese Provinces » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:43 pm

I have the distinct feeling I've done this before, but here it goes...

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IFC Admissions Department,
Kairaku, Flardania, Kirishima


IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name: The Grand Republic of China
Shortened Nation Name: China
Demonym: Chinese
Capital city: Beijing
National Population (RP): 1,359,839,000
Form of Government: Republic
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives or with democratic elements): Yes
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Left
Head of State: Cai Zhongshan
Head of Government: Cai Zhongshan
Economic System: Socio-Capitalism
Currency: Yuan
Exchange Rate to NSD: ¥1=$1.69
Major Exports: War Materiel, electronics, clothing
Major Imports: Exotic goods
Language: Standard Chinese (And variants)
Brief History of your nation: The Qing Dynasty, the last of the Chinese Dynasties, was overthrown in 1912 by Sun Yatsen and his Nationalist Party, who created the Republic of China. However, by 1913 regional warlords began to take power, and Sun was exiled to the south. In 1924, he created an alliance with the budding Communist Party of China. When Sun died the following year, his successor Chiang Kaishek took the reigns of the Nationalist Party and created a united military Front with the Communists to unite the nation and eliminate the warlords. Once the warlords were (nominally) overthrown, however, Chiang turned against the communists and began attacking them. An arduous civil war ensued from 1928 to 1937, when the Japanese openly attacked China. Once again, and united Front was formed, this time against the Japanese, and in 1945 the Second Sino-Japanese War (known in the rest of the world as World War 2) ended. In 1946, the civil war started up again between the Communists and the Nationalists, with the Communists gaining the upper hand by 1948. In February 1949, Chiang was assasinated by a Communist insurgent, and Mao Zedong set up a communist government in Beijing. However, before remaining Nationalist forces in the south could be defeated, Mao died of pneumonia, leaving the task of running the new nation to Zhou Enlai. Zhou, being more of a diplomat than a soldier, coerced the remaining Nationalists into the new nation with the provisions that they would be treated fairly and that the nation would retain the original name, the Republic of China (the "Great" at the beginning was added later). Some of the ideas Mao had created for the country before his death were kept, but most of the original system devised by Sun Yatsen held its place.
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link or factbook (if you have one):

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes
Right to own property: Yes
Right to free enterprise (and to what extent?): Yes, to a large extent, although there are some nationalized essential businesses.
Right to innocent navigation: Yes

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): None
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.): None
Foreign Policy: Rather forceful. The nation is very vocal about what it does and does not care for, although it is hesitant (most of the time) to act. There are exceptions to this, however.
Number of active military personnel (RP): 2,343,009
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 647,000
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): 20 long-range ICBMs
Name of Military: the Second National Revolutionary Army
Branches of Military: Air Force, Navy, and Space Corps.
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread): viewtopic.php?f=5&t=380903

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name: Nie Aiguo
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Biography (optional):
Education (optional):
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To more actively participate in affairs promoting the freedom of the peoples of the world.
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth under the Charter in IFC legislation?: Yes
Signature: _____________聂爱国___________
Date:_______二零一六年九月十日_____9/10/16______

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The Three Unknowns三不知
I do not know how many soldiers I have, how many friends I have, nor how many enemies I have.兵不知有多少,朋友不知有多少,敌人不知有多少。

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