The Third Anarchist Brotherhood(OOC/Sign-up)

[Real Sperland]

Long Nation name:The Federation of AnarchyForAFreeHUMANITY
Short nation name: AnarchyForAFreeHUMANITY
Capital city: -
Population:12 million anarchists
Leader(s)(if any): -
Ideology: Anarcho-Syndicalism/Anarcho-Communism
Military Personnel: i dont know what is that!
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: Yes i agree but i have some concerns about the way we pick our alliances. Real Sperland who make the proposal is a complete Left-Wing Nation. I strongly believe that Anarchism is a worker's political movement and ideology and that means that purpose of the anarchists workers is the abolish of capitalism at the same way the power of the State and their goverments. That means a stateless sosialistic transform of our society.
So in this specific online world with Goverments and States a society cant be anarchistic in any way. We anarchists could make our States approaching our Utopia if we assume that state-owned industries and illegal private industries is a economy plan where society produce for its needs and there is no big differences on income of the citizens along with social state of high level. In that way we can ensure our sosialistic transform of the society and of course at the same time we have to give the most of political and civil freedoms. In a way is still oxymoron talking for political freedoms in an anarchistic society. For example a facist/nationalist can tell about his ideas for white pride in our society? No of course but in our Utopia facism should not Exists or if exists our people and not an anarchistic goverment should take action else thats not Anarchy. In conclusion, I want to be a member of Third Anarchist Brotherhood but i want at least the other members have minimum private industry economy or if the dont have right now to have a condition as a Third Anarchistic Brotherhood that all that members will change direction to state industry and all of us to have as purpose to make our lands Left-Wing Utopia!!!


NO GOD, NO MASTERS
ABOLISH CAPITALISM, SMASH THE STATE
ANARCHY FOR A FREE HUMANITY

God almighty, we are going to be good friends, unless Astaliah or any other of my enemies is infiltrating us.
You have good ideas. ACCEPTED!

[Real Sperland]

Bump. Anyone here?

[Ahlystram]

Long Nation name: The United Peoples of Ahlystram
Short nation name: Ahlystram
Capital city: Styabr
Population: 36 million
Leader(s)(if any): OBAU (One Big Ahlystramish Union) administrative council
Ideology: Anarcho-syndicalism with emphasis on individual freedom
Military Personnel: 70% of Ahlystramers between the ages of 18 and 55 are part of the voluntary militia. 20% of those are full-time soldiers.
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: Yes.

[Real Sperland]

Long Nation name: The United Peoples of Ahlystram
Short nation name: Ahlystram
Capital city: Styabr
Population: 36 million
Leader(s)(if any): OBAU (One Big Ahlystramish Union) administrative council
Ideology: Anarcho-syndicalism with emphasis on individual freedom
Military Personnel: 70% of Ahlystramers between the ages of 18 and 55 are part of the voluntary militia. 20% of those are full-time soldiers.
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: Yes.

Brilliant! You are Accepted!

[Real Sperland]

Cut

[Real Sperland]

Well I hope you do not mind the question, but exactly which anarchism does it represent? Anarcho-communists do not quite like the "Ancaps" and vice versa.

I would asusme maybe this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism ... adjectives

The Brotherhood does not endorse any certain Anarchist Economic system.

[Schnitzengrubenstein]

Long Nation name: The Free Anarchosapient Commons of Schnitzengrubenstein.
Short nation name: Schnitzengrubenstein
Capital city: Schnitzengrubensteinstadt, Weiffenschnitzengruben (across a river from another)
Population: 168-200 million alive
Leader(s)(if any): No exacting rulers in accordance to being a "society without rulers"
Ideology: Anarcho Community of independent/independent groups. A voluntary society free from coercive powers and governance, based on consent and cooperative spirit.
Military Personnel: Fluctuates, yet staunch military/militia personnel forces can easily extend beyond several million, while informal forces are much greater and more variable in number.
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: Indeed, we will keep commitment to fellow free lands in best possible means given any present possible constraint.

[Real Sperland]

Long Nation name: The Free Anarchosapient Commons of Schnitzengrubenstein.
Short nation name: Schnitzengrubenstein
Capital city: Schnitzengrubensteinstadt, Weiffenschnitzengruben (across a river from another)
Population: 168-200 million alive
Leader(s)(if any): No exacting rulers in accordance to being a "society without rulers"
Ideology: Anarcho Community of independent/independent groups. A voluntary society free from coercive powers and governance, based on consent and cooperative spirit.
Military Personnel: Fluctuates, yet staunch military/militia personnel forces can easily extend beyond several million, while informal forces are much greater and more variable in number.
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: Indeed, we will keep commitment to fellow free lands in best possible means given any present possible constraint.

ACCEPTED.

Welcome

[Real Sperland]

POTENTIAL CONFLICT
The people of the nation Crysuko are protesting against their government and are being repressed. Though they are not anarchists, this is an act of tyranny and must be stopped.
Can anyone help?
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=388874

[International Anarchist Order]

Long Nation name: The Free Land of the International Anarchist order
Short nation name:The International Anarchist Order (IAO)
Capital city: Variable meeting places
Population: 1 billion
Leader(s)(if any): Working on info
Ideology: Anarcho-Syndicalism/Anarchist Communism
Military Personnel: 1.5 million Personnel
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: ABSOLUTELY

[Real Sperland]

Long Nation name: The Free Land of the International Anarchist order
Short nation name:The International Anarchist Order (IAO)
Capital city: Variable meeting places
Population: 1 billion
Leader(s)(if any): Working on info
Ideology: Anarcho-Syndicalism/Anarchist Communism
Military Personnel: 1.5 million Personnel
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: ABSOLUTELY

ACCEPTED

[Real Sperland]

You know, this could be a really good alliance if you want it to be. 11 strong members. I don't think this alliance is active enough.

[Redshield Foundation]

Although we are not anarchists, we would be interested in providing monetary aid to your organization.

[Real Sperland]

Although we are not anarchists, we would be interested in providing monetary aid to your organization.

Thank you! Shall I classify you as a supporter?

[Redshield Foundation]

Although we are not anarchists, we would be interested in providing monetary aid to your organization.

Thank you! Shall I classify you as a supporter?

sure thing.

[Real Sperland]

Bump

[Real Sperland]

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[Real Sperland]

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[Real Sperland]

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[Real Sperland]

Bump?

[Astaliah]

Long Nation name: The People's United Kingdom of Astaliah
Short nation name: Astaliah
Capital city: Santiago
Population: 94 million
Leader(s)(if any): Ernesto Madúro
Ideology: Democratic Socialism
Military Personnel: 1.5 million
Do you agree to help all nations in this alliance and remain active for this alliance?: Yes

The only reason I am joining this Alliance is to helpf with the liberation of the region 'Anarcy'. I am not an Anarchist. All Leftists should unite in the fight against Raiders, Fascism and Colonialism.

[Real Sperland]

I'll classify you as a supporter.

[Narwhalitz]

In a way is still oxymoron talking for political freedoms in an anarchistic society. For example a facist/nationalist can tell about his ideas for white pride in our society? No of course but in our Utopia facism should not Exists or if exists our people and not an anarchistic goverment should take action else thats not Anarchy.

Anarchism supports FULL autonomy, freedom of expression and freedom of speech, but: anarchism does not tolerate one individual to violate the liberty and autonomy of another individual.

Anarchism is a stateless society that rejects bourgeoisie political systems, representative and parliamentarian democracy - but: it still has rules and order. The rules are decided by local communities and to be granted citizenship into the community you need to agree to abide by those rules, if you don't like the rules you can move to find another anarchist community where you do like the rules, and you can agree to be citizen there instead. Rules for community are not set in concrete, amendments and improvements can be proposed at any time, delegates can be elected, votes cast and consensus reached.

Therefore, we can see that anarchist societies have rules and are not "lawless", understanding this we can see that if a fascist wants to stand up and "speak" about white power then he can, but if he violate the liberty and autonomy of another person then he can be arrested by the "people's militia". Each community can have their own punishments for crimes, it can be: jail, hard labour, exile, or even execution. It is up to the community to decide for each crime.

So, in anarchism (according to rejection of ALL coercive authorities) you do not have the freedom to deny liberty and to exploit another person, if you do you will forfeit your own liberties. All other civil, personal, and political freedoms remain intact.

i want at least the other members have minimum private industry economy

Anarchism can be supportive of "private industry" in the form of artisans and small family business. If you start a business and you are the only one who works in this business you are not exploiting any employees for financial gain. Same thing if you have family business with wife, brother, uncle, etc. If you are not hiring employees then no capitalist exploitation.

If there is a business that requires larger production model and needs many workers then anarchism says to set up local co-operative or workers council and workers can own the means of production themselves.

Anarchism is opposed to capitalist exploitation, I think the small business model can be called "personal industry" not private industry, this can fit with the definitions of private property vs personal property. PRIVATE property is property that you use to exploit other people, this is why anarchists and other socialists are against it.


Thanks for raising some good topics

[Narwhalitz]

I would asusme maybe this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism ... adjectives

The Brotherhood does not endorse any certain Anarchist Economic system.

Be careful with this one. I am vehemently opposed to anarcho-capitalism - 100% reject it - and would appeal to all other like-minded anarchist to do the same, this needs to be fought almost as strongly as fascism!

Murray Rothbard created (right wing) Libertarianism as a variation of classical liberalism. He knew it was a leftist word and took it anyway. Later, when many of the libertarian movement became too socially liberal, in his eyes, Rothbard then coined the term "anarcho-capitalism" to refer to an ideology that was anti-state but pro-capitalism. He wanted maximum economic freedom but was against social freedoms.

So many people make the same mistake, anarchism is NOT about being anti-state, it's about being anti - COERCIVE, HIERARCHICAL AUTHORITY! Anarcho-capitalism is perfectly fine with coercive, hierarchical authority, and in this way it is a perversion of anarchism.

This is how Bakunin described anarchism:

The core concept of Anarchism is the rejection of hierarchical authorities, (including; Nation-State government systems, capitalism and it's "private" property rights, bourgeoisie politics, bourgeoisie law systems, and religion.) This idea is consistent from Proudhon through to Kropotkin and is the basis of anarchist philosophy.

This core idea can be broken down in the following way:

1) Rejection of institutions of coercive authority (particularly capitalism and it's government, but also religion).

2) Rejection of the modern Nation-State.

3) Rejection of participation in existing bourgeoisie forms of government.

4) The immediate abolition of the Nation-State, bourgeoisie government and capitalism through the direct action of the proletariat (immediate rather than gradual transition).

5) The formation of voluntary federations of association - both during the struggle, and afterwards in the new socialist society - the revolutionary means should remain consistent with the revolutionary ends.

[Astaliah]

The Brotherhood does not endorse any certain Anarchist Economic system.

Be careful with this one. I am vehemently opposed to anarcho-capitalism - 100% reject it - and would appeal to all other like-minded anarchist to do the same, this needs to be fought almost as strongly as fascism!

Murray Rothbard created (right wing) Libertarianism as a variation of classical liberalism. He knew it was a leftist word and took it anyway. Later, when many of the libertarian movement became too socially liberal, in his eyes, Rothbard then coined the term "anarcho-capitalism" to refer to an ideology that was anti-state but pro-capitalism. He wanted maximum economic freedom but was against social freedoms.

So many people make the same mistake, anarchism is NOT about being anti-state, it's about being anti - COERCIVE, HIERARCHICAL AUTHORITY! Anarcho-capitalism is perfectly fine with coercive, hierarchical authority, and in this way it is a perversion of anarchism.

This is how Bakunin described anarchism:

The core concept of Anarchism is the rejection of hierarchical authorities, (including; Nation-State government systems, capitalism and it's "private" property rights, bourgeoisie politics, bourgeoisie law systems, and religion.) This idea is consistent from Proudhon through to Kropotkin and is the basis of anarchist philosophy.

This core idea can be broken down in the following way:

1) Rejection of institutions of coercive authority (particularly capitalism and it's government, but also religion).

2) Rejection of the modern Nation-State.

3) Rejection of participation in existing bourgeoisie forms of government.

4) The immediate abolition of the Nation-State, bourgeoisie government and capitalism through the direct action of the proletariat (immediate rather than gradual transition).

5) The formation of voluntary federations of association - both during the struggle, and afterwards in the new socialist society - the revolutionary means should remain consistent with the revolutionary ends.

You seem to very pro-anarchism, and a loyal anarchist. You are exactly the kind of person we want! Please join The Third Anarchist Brotherhood today! We are a regional version of this alliance and we are currently fighting for the liberation of Anarchy

Please join us!

PS. If you are interested, telegram me for the password.