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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:34 pm

Quirina wrote:Permission to join?

Okay, just behave yourself.
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Postby Flardania » Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:52 pm

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Flardania wrote:checking in

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Postby Valaran » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:45 am

Mind if I post at times, Ardoki? I don't have anything major planned, but doubtless the Adrokian situation would be discussed in the Empire, and journalists and/or diplomats might be sent
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Postby Ardoki » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:04 am

Valaran wrote:Mind if I post at times, Ardoki? I don't have anything major planned, but doubtless the Adrokian situation would be discussed in the Empire, and journalists and/or diplomats might be sent

Sure.

You're always welcome.
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Postby Ardoki » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:30 am

We'll have to discuss the conditions and regulations concerning IFC forces in Ardoki.

EDIT: My government would be very unlikely to accept more than 500,000 IFC personnel in Ardoki (this includes civilians, soldiers, and police, etcetera) due to domestic political realities. Also, it should be clear that any such personnel are guests who shall respect Ardokian sovereignty and the authority of our government.

Thanks.
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Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
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Postby Valaran » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:43 am

Ardoki wrote:
Valaran wrote:Mind if I post at times, Ardoki? I don't have anything major planned, but doubtless the Adrokian situation would be discussed in the Empire, and journalists and/or diplomats might be sent

Sure.

You're always welcome.



Thanks :)
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Postby Quirina » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:50 am

Ardoki wrote:
Quirina wrote:Permission to join?

Okay, just behave yourself.

Thanks. :)
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Postby Guadalupador » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:48 am

Ardoki wrote:We'll have to discuss the conditions and regulations concerning IFC forces in Ardoki.

EDIT: My government would be very unlikely to accept more than 500,000 IFC personnel in Ardoki (this includes civilians, soldiers, and police, etcetera) due to domestic political realities. Also, it should be clear that any such personnel are guests who shall respect Ardokian sovereignty and the authority of our government.

Thanks.

We'll be sending in a unit of MPs and a few security sub-contractors to assist in the protection of investigators. They'll number around 500-600 personnel.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:39 pm

Ardoki, what will be the probable reaction when the IFC government reverses the awarding of points to schoolchildren engaged in political campaigning as 'inappropriate for the operation of elections', and when they impose spending limits on campaigning, probably at $10 billion per party, and when they set the deadline for elections to be at the beginning of next month instead "to address complaints and allow sufficient time for minor parties to come into the public light after years of the domination of the ASDLP", and if they ban polling?

I should clarify by "probable", I mean, what would the IFC government expect the likely (and unlikely) results to be, given that they are widely and secretly consulting parts of the Ardoki establishment?

Ardoki wrote:We'll have to discuss the conditions and regulations concerning IFC forces in Ardoki.

EDIT: My government would be very unlikely to accept more than 500,000 IFC personnel in Ardoki (this includes civilians, soldiers, and police, etcetera) due to domestic political realities. Also, it should be clear that any such personnel are guests who shall respect Ardokian sovereignty and the authority of our government.

Thanks.

Ausitoria is already positioning some 200,000 military personnel and about 100,000 civilians; and it is very clear that their operations are under the direct control of the IFC Executive Branch. Currently they're wondering which is the bigger enemy: idiot sovereigntists in Ardoki or idiot militants opposing Ardoki. As such half are concentrated around the capital.

Indeed the IFC is observing and advising the Ardoki armed forces in their restructuring in accordance with the requirements of Resolution 21 c. There is an Ausitorian HQ airmobile company attached to every Ardoki division, quite beside all the investigators swarming around. (And the Ausitorians in particular are quietly trying to ensure that they see everything).

I should probably make the following clearer:

If you read the government's statements very carefully, for as long as Ardoki carries out reforms pretty much what the IFC government wants, the IFC will not interfere; but if Ardoki legislation or officials start to systematically fail to do what the IFC wants, then the IFC will remove both. Nowhere has the Ausitorian government promised Ardoki that the present situation will remain in place if it does not work.

The thing is, any politicians who raise expectations are playing a very dangerous game - like the outers in brexit, except imagine that Russia is on the brink of invading Britain, and a vote out is also a vote out of NATO...

If this comes to a confrontation, the IFC Council will probably recognize an insurgency, and it will probably not end well for Ardoki, although there would probably be time for at least 200 million Ardokians to be evacuated. But if the Ardoki government wish to avoid civil war and possible invasion by SACTO, they need to back-peddle public sentiment, and fast. At this rate even $200 billion of direct aid would fail to avert a recession; business sentiment and investment would be falling through the floor at this uncertainty; and the currency depreciating fast. The fun is over: they have to stop talking about sovereignty and get back to ensuring financial, political, and diplomatic stability. If they want some external threat to talk about, they should talk about SACTO and the blockading powers, and deflect any populist anger in that direction.

And you can assume that is what Ausitorian officials are secretly warning the current Ardoki cabinet, as of the weekend of the 9th-10th July.
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Postby Ardoki » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:17 pm

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Ardoki, what will be the probable reaction when the IFC government reverses the awarding of points to schoolchildren engaged in political campaigning as 'inappropriate for the operation of elections', and when they impose spending limits on campaigning, probably at $10 billion per party, and when they set the deadline for elections to be at the beginning of next month instead "to address complaints and allow sufficient time for minor parties to come into the public light after years of the domination of the ASDLP", and if they ban polling?


The League of Young Social Democrats is the youth wing of the Ardokian Social Democratic Labour Party, it is a private organisation and is neither a part of the state nor under government control. It has every right to compensate its members who volunteer with points. Many members of the youth wings of political parties volunteer in political campaigns, this is very common in every liberal democracy and does not violate any reasonable electoral laws.

It would simply be unfair, to set a cap for the amount of money political parties may spend on campaign. That would penalise political parties which are popular enough to raise more than that figure, in effect giving the less popular political parties an advantage. This does not sound like the types of restrictions compatible with liberal democracies.

The constitution says that if an elected President resigns, dies or incapacitated, snap elections for both the presidency and the legislature must be held no more than two weeks later. This is to minimise the period an unelected President may be in power, and allow the people to elect the new President as soon as possible. If the election is extended, it would be a violation of the constitution.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:I should clarify by "probable", I mean, what would the IFC government expect the likely (and unlikely) results to be, given that they are widely and secretly consulting parts of the Ardoki establishment?


The Ardokian Social Democratic Labour Party is committed to the Musrum Declaration of Rights, and is prepared to cooperate with the IFC as an equal partner. We want this to work just as much as Prince Kazpia.

The vast majority of Party leaders are fully committed to social democracy, and sincerely believe it is the best path forward for Ardoki; they would see those suggestions as a serious attempt at undermining the Party. The IFC would be seen as a neocolonialist enemy by many Party leaders who are currently supportive of it, and the Party as a whole would move to oppose Ardokian membership in the IFC.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Ausitoria is already positioning some 200,000 military personnel and about 100,000 civilians; and it is very clear that their operations are under the direct control of the IFC Executive Branch. Currently they're wondering which is the bigger enemy: idiot sovereigntists in Ardoki or idiot militants opposing Ardoki. As such half are concentrated around the capital.


IFC forces will be distributed relatively evenly across Ardoki's north coast; to demonstrate to the Ardokian people that IFC forces are actually here to defend them, rather than surround the capital which would be seen by many as a very aggressive/hostile posture threatening to attempt incapacitating the government.

As long as your forces abide by the law, refrain from threatening our people, inform our government of everything, and comply with our government's requests; everything will be fine.

I'd like to see the IFC ORBAT before the forces arrive in Ardoki.
Thanks.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Indeed the IFC is observing and advising the Ardoki armed forces in their restructuring in accordance with the requirements of Resolution 21 c. There is an Ausitorian HQ airmobile company attached to every Ardoki division, quite beside all the investigators swarming around. (And the Ausitorians in particular are quietly trying to ensure that they see everything).


I'm fine with that. Our government intends to fully cooperate with the IFC investigation.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:I should probably make the following clearer:

If you read the government's statements very carefully, for as long as Ardoki carries out reforms pretty much what the IFC government wants, the IFC will not interfere; but if Ardoki legislation or officials start to systematically fail to do what the IFC wants, then the IFC will remove both. Nowhere has the Ausitorian government promised Ardoki that the present situation will remain in place if it does not work.

The thing is, any politicians who raise expectations are playing a very dangerous game - like the outers in brexit, except imagine that Russia is on the brink of invading Britain, and a vote out is also a vote out of NATO...


Our government wishes for nothing but cooperation with the IFC, and is committed to expanding and defending human rights throughout Ardoki. However, there is a lot of legislation which is supported by our people (the right for trade unions to exist, the minimum wage, universal healthcare and education, the job guarantee system, etcetera) and they are fearful of foreign organisations (such as the IFC) backed by corporate interests pressuring for their removal (they are concerned about some of Prince Kazpia's remarks which are vague enough to mean complete deregulation and privitisation).

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:If this comes to a confrontation, the IFC Council will probably recognize an insurgency, and it will probably not end well for Ardoki, although there would probably be time for at least 200 million Ardokians to be evacuated. But if the Ardoki government wish to avoid civil war and possible invasion by SACTO, they need to back-peddle public sentiment, and fast. At this rate even $200 billion of direct aid would fail to avert a recession; business sentiment and investment would be falling through the floor at this uncertainty; and the currency depreciating fast. The fun is over: they have to stop talking about sovereignty and get back to ensuring financial, political, and diplomatic stability. If they want some external threat to talk about, they should talk about SACTO and the blockading powers, and deflect any populist anger in that direction.


I can guarantee our government will not cause any confrontation. However, the IFC are guests in Ardoki and they should be respectful to the requests of our government and the wishes of our people.

There will be no insurgency or civil war, our people and military will support our government no matter the cost.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:And you can assume that is what Ausitorian officials are secretly warning the current Ardoki cabinet, as of the weekend of the 9th-10th July.


Our government will meet with Prince Kazpia and the other advisers in my next post. We can discuss some of these issues.

Also, again, I'd really like the IFC ORBAT before the forces arrive in Ardoki.
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Postby Organized States » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:41 am

In light of Ardoki's request.

OS FORCES ARDOKI
Regional Command Aanglandia
-Headquarters Battalion (Joint Forces)
OS NAVAL HOSPITAL AANGLANDIA (Level V Trauma Facility located on the grounds of JB Aanglandia)
-Detachment 1, 1st Dental Battalion (OSMC/OSN)
-Detachment 1, 1st Medical Battalion (OSMC/OSN)
-Detachment 1, Naval Hospital Camp Lejune (OSN)
-Surgical Detachment 1, Naval Hospital San Diego (OSN)
-115th Combat Support Hospital (OS Army)
-579th Medical Group (OSAF)
JOINT BASE LANDINTOWN
-Special Purpose Marine-Air Ground Task Force-Aanglandia (OSMC)
-Detachment 1, Headquarters Company, 4th Law Enforcement Battalion (OSMC)
-Company A, 4th Law Enforcement Battalion (OSMC)
-Company B, 4th Law Enforcement Battalion (OSMC)
-Fleet Anti-Terrorism Security Team South (OSMC)
-822nd Base Defense Squadron (OSAF)
-Air Mobility Command Terminal Landintown (OSAF)
-Religious Service Team Landintown (OSAF, OSN, OS Army)
-174th Attack Wing (MQ-9, OSAF)
-JB Landintown Fire Department (OSAF)
-414th Expeditionary Fighter Group (F-15SE, OSAF)
-43d Electronic Combat Squadron (EC-130J, OSAF)
-164th Airlift Squadron (C-27J, OSAF)
-461st Air Control Wing (E-10MC2A, OSAF/OS Army)
-Landintown Detachment, 1st Battalion (Attack), 229th Aviation Regiment, 16th Combat Aviation Brigade (MQ-1C, AH-64E)
-Landintown Detachment, 1st Battalion (General Support), 52nd Aviation Regiment, 16th Combat Aviation Brigade (UH-60M, CH-47, MC-12, OS Army)
-Landintown Detachment, 2nd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade (OS Army)
JOINT BASE CAMP MONTI (Includes all OS Forces occupying the three bases around Ardea)/REGIONAL COMMAND NORTH
-Joint Base Camp Monti Headquarters Battalion (Joint)
-Joint Force Headquarters Ardoki (Joint)
-AFOSI Office Ardoki (DoD Law Enforcement)
-NCIS Office Ardoki (DoD Law Enforcement)
-CID Office Ardoki (DoD Law Enforcement)
-2nd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade (OS Army)
-1st Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division (OS Army)
-81st Armored Brigade Combat Team (OS Army)
-16th Combat Aviation Brigade (OS Army)
-Marine Expeditionary Brigade-Ardoki (OSMC)
-332d Air Expeditionary Wing (KC-46A, HH-60W, EA-28G, F/A-28A, F-35A, A-10E, C-130J, MC-12W, F-15SE, OSAF)
-400th Air Expeditionary Wing (KC-48A, KC-46A, HH-60W, C-27J, C-17A, OSAF)
-470th Air Expeditionary Wing (F-15SE, EC-130J, MC-130J, F-35A, CV-22)
-Air Mobility Command Terminal, Camp Monti (OSAF)
-Camp Monti Fire Department (OSAF)
-Religious Services Team (OSN, OSAF, OS Army)
JOINT THEATER HOSPITAL CAMP MONTI (Level V Trauma Facility)
-48th Combat Support Hospital (OS Army)
-Surgical Detachment 2, Naval Hospital San Diego (OS Navy)
-Detachment 2, 1st Dental Battalion (OSN/OSMC)
-Detachment 2, 1st Medical Battalion (OSN/OSMC)
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:46 am

Organized States wrote:In light of Ardoki's request.

OS FORCES ARDOKI
Regional Command Aanglandia
-Headquarters Battalion (Joint Forces)
OS NAVAL HOSPITAL AANGLANDIA (Level V Trauma Facility located on the grounds of JB Aanglandia)
-Detachment 1, 1st Dental Battalion (OSMC/OSN)
-Detachment 1, 1st Medical Battalion (OSMC/OSN)
-Detachment 1, Naval Hospital Camp Lejune (OSN)
-Surgical Detachment 1, Naval Hospital San Diego (OSN)
-115th Combat Support Hospital (OS Army)
-579th Medical Group (OSAF)
JOINT BASE LANDINTOWN
-Special Purpose Marine-Air Ground Task Force-Aanglandia (OSMC)
-Detachment 1, Headquarters Company, 4th Law Enforcement Battalion (OSMC)
-Company A, 4th Law Enforcement Battalion (OSMC)
-Company B, 4th Law Enforcement Battalion (OSMC)
-Fleet Anti-Terrorism Security Team South (OSMC)
-822nd Base Defense Squadron (OSAF)
-Air Mobility Command Terminal Landintown (OSAF)
-Religious Service Team Landintown (OSAF, OSN, OS Army)
-174th Attack Wing (MQ-9, OSAF)
-JB Landintown Fire Department (OSAF)
-414th Expeditionary Fighter Group (F-15SE, OSAF)
-43d Electronic Combat Squadron (EC-130J, OSAF)
-164th Airlift Squadron (C-27J, OSAF)
-461st Air Control Wing (E-10MC2A, OSAF/OS Army)
-Landintown Detachment, 1st Battalion (Attack), 229th Aviation Regiment, 16th Combat Aviation Brigade (MQ-1C, AH-64E)
-Landintown Detachment, 1st Battalion (General Support), 52nd Aviation Regiment, 16th Combat Aviation Brigade (UH-60M, CH-47, MC-12, OS Army)
-Landintown Detachment, 2nd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade (OS Army)
JOINT BASE CAMP MONTI (Includes all OS Forces occupying the three bases around Ardea)/REGIONAL COMMAND NORTH
-Joint Base Camp Monti Headquarters Battalion (Joint)
-Joint Force Headquarters Ardoki (Joint)
-AFOSI Office Ardoki (DoD Law Enforcement)
-NCIS Office Ardoki (DoD Law Enforcement)
-CID Office Ardoki (DoD Law Enforcement)
-2nd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade (OS Army)
-116th Infantry Brigade Combat Team (OS Army)
-81st Armored Brigade Combat Team (OS Army)
-16th Combat Aviation Brigade (OS Army)
-Marine Expeditionary Brigade-Ardoki (OSMC)
-332d Air Expeditionary Wing (KC-46A, HH-60W, EA-28G, F/A-28A, F-35A, A-10E, C-130J, MC-12W, F-15SE, OSAF)
-400th Air Expeditionary Wing (KC-48A, KC-46A, HH-60W, C-27J, C-17A, OSAF)
-470th Air Expeditionary Wing (F-15SE, EC-130J, MC-130J, CV-22)
-Air Mobility Command Terminal, Camp Monti (OSAF)
-Camp Monti Fire Department (OSAF)
-Religious Services Team (OSN, OSAF, OS Army)
JOINT THEATER HOSPITAL CAMP MONTI (Level V Trauma Facility)
-48th Combat Support Hospital (OS Army)
-Surgical Detachment 2, Naval Hospital San Diego (OS Navy)
-Detachment 2, 1st Dental Battalion (OSN/OSMC)
-Detachment 2, 1st Medical Battalion (OSN/OSMC)

I'll post this all in a section in the OP, with the other IFC forces.

May I please have the total number of personnel (civilian and military) and a list of military equipment (e.g. MBTs, APCs, Fighters, etc.)?
Thanks.
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Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:58 am

I'm putting major Ardokian cities on my map now, which should help with the distribution of IFC forces.
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Postby Manchaimao » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:32 am

Mind if I join? You know, One Totalitarian State seeing the shadow of another Totalitarian state.

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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:32 pm

Manchaimao wrote:Mind if I join? You know, One Totalitarian State seeing the shadow of another Totalitarian state.

Maybe. I think I know who you are from a while back.
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Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
Legislature: Imperial Senate
Ruling Party: Imperial Progressive Party
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:42 pm

Moriarty will be going to WorldVision shortly. Make it happen!
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Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
Legislature: Imperial Senate
Ruling Party: Imperial Progressive Party
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Postby Guadalupador » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:26 pm

Guadalupadorian Federal Army ORBAT:

HQ: Ardea
-2nd Regiment, 10th Airborne Division (2600 Personnel)
-12th Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division (2600)
-18th Air Calvary Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division (520)
-3rd Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division (200)


HQ: Landintown
-9th Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division (2600)
-4th Mechanized Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division (2600)
-1st Regiment, 10th Airborne Division (2600)
-5th Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division (200)
-103rd Air Mobile Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division (2600)


HQ: Leitrim
-1st Regiment, 10th Airborne Division (2600)
-1st Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division (2600)
-1st Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division (200)
-10th Air Calvary Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division (520)

Total Guadalupadorian Federal Army Forces in Ardoki: 22,440 Personnel
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:08 pm

Guadalupador wrote:Guadalupadorian Federal Army ORBAT:

HQ: Ardea
-2nd Regiment, 10th Airborne Division
-12th Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-18th Air Calvary Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division
-3rd Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division
-x200 Pieuvre Armament Security Sub-contractors

HQ: Landintown
-9th Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-4th Mechanized Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-1st Regiment, 10th Airborne Division
-5th Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division
-103rd Air Mobile Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-x200 Pieuvre Armament Security Sub-contractors

HQ: Leitrim
-1st Regiment, 10th Airborne Division
-1st Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-1st Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division
-10th Air Calvary Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division

Could I please have the number of personnel and equipment?

Plus, we won't allow mercenaries into our country. They have a tendency to murder innocent civilians for fun, and neither our government or people tolerate such behaviour.
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Flardania
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Postby Flardania » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:13 pm

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Just a heads up that an ORBAT is being made
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Postby Organized States » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:19 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Guadalupadorian Federal Army ORBAT:

HQ: Ardea
-2nd Regiment, 10th Airborne Division
-12th Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-18th Air Calvary Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division
-3rd Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division
-x200 Pieuvre Armament Security Sub-contractors

HQ: Landintown
-9th Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-4th Mechanized Infantry Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-1st Regiment, 10th Airborne Division
-5th Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division
-103rd Air Mobile Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-x200 Pieuvre Armament Security Sub-contractors

HQ: Leitrim
-1st Regiment, 10th Airborne Division
-1st Military Police Regiment, 2nd Infantry Division
-1st Medical Detachment, 2nd Infantry Division
-10th Air Calvary Battalion, 2nd Infantry Division

Could I please have the number of personnel and equipment?

Plus, we won't allow mercenaries into our country. They have a tendency to murder innocent civilians for fun, and neither our government or people tolerate such behaviour.

Mercenaries are different than contractors.

Contractors can mean equipment specialists, security guards, analysts, etc.
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Hatay
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Postby Hatay » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:27 pm

I'll be sending observers with some armed men but very little.
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:10 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Ardoki, what will be the probable reaction when the IFC government reverses the awarding of points to schoolchildren engaged in political campaigning as 'inappropriate for the operation of elections', and when they impose spending limits on campaigning, probably at $10 billion per party, and when they set the deadline for elections to be at the beginning of next month instead "to address complaints and allow sufficient time for minor parties to come into the public light after years of the domination of the ASDLP", and if they ban polling?


The League of Young Social Democrats is the youth wing of the Ardokian Social Democratic Labour Party, it is a private organisation and is neither a part of the state nor under government control. It has every right to compensate its members who volunteer with points.

I thought you were referring to school points. That is alright then.

It would simply be unfair, to set a cap for the amount of money political parties may spend on campaign. That would penalise political parties which are popular enough to raise more than that figure, in effect giving the less popular political parties an advantage. This does not sound like the types of restrictions compatible with liberal democracies.

It's common enough in Europe and used in Ausitoria. Alternatively the ASDLP might exercise "voluntary" restraint; or alternatively, the Alexandrian government might officially give all under-supported parties $50 billion and take the money out of the other aid pledged for Ardoki and blame the ASDLP for putting the party before country.

The constitution says that if an elected President resigns, dies or incapacitated, snap elections for both the presidency and the legislature must be held no more than two weeks later. This is to minimise the period an unelected President may be in power, and allow the people to elect the new President as soon as possible. If the election is extended, it would be a violation of the constitution.

Resolution 21 c says an election should be held within three months, and clause 5 states 'This government shall be dispensed in the interests of peace, fairness, stability, democracy, and prosperity' - and it is the opinion of the Prime Minister's Office that there is nothing fair or democratic about holding effectively rigged elections before people have a chance to campaign.

Of course one possible solution is to hold two elections, where the first is simply insignificant, and effectively ignored by the IFC.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Ausitoria is already positioning some 200,000 military personnel and about 100,000 civilians; and it is very clear that their operations are under the direct control of the IFC Executive Branch. Currently they're wondering which is the bigger enemy: idiot sovereigntists in Ardoki or idiot militants opposing Ardoki. As such half are concentrated around the capital, and all of them are effectively headquartered in it.


IFC forces will be distributed relatively evenly across Ardoki's north coast; to demonstrate to the Ardokian people that IFC forces are actually here to defend them, rather than surround the capital which would be seen by many as a very aggressive/hostile posture threatening to attempt incapacitating the government.

IFC forces are distributed according to the IFC government's requirements. Since most civil servants are based in the capital, and since the capital is of no little strategic importance, half are concentrated around the capital. Of course, at this stage, guards in built up areas do need need to drive around in tanks, or even in vehicles of military specifications, or even in battle uniforms; a clear gesture of trust.

As long as your forces abide by the law, refrain from threatening our people, inform our government of everything, and comply with our government's requests; everything will be fine.

As long as your government's requests comply with the IFC government's requests, I'm sure everything will be fine. Of course there is no chance they will inform Ardoki of everything, e.g. stationary requisitions or small formation movements; if they did, Ardokian bureaucrats would be far more effectively overwhelmed than if they were blockaded.

I'd like to see the IFC ORBAT before the forces arrive in Ardoki.

Since it's constantly changing according to civil service requirements, that's a bit impossible to do in detail: particularly as most of the military forces are distributed to protect the civil service.

Fixed military formations consist of:

Ardea HQ Legion, c. 14,000 men
Composed of 1 x Combined Brigades, 1 x Armoured Reserve Brigade, 1 x Airmobile Brigade, 1 x Guards Brigade, and 3 x HQ Brigades (2 Airmobile)

North Armoured Assault Corps, c. 41,000 men
Composed of 4 x Marine Legions
With variable organic air support

Ardea Reserve Assault Corps, c. 41,000 men
Composed of 4 x Marine Legions
With variable organic air support

Other forces in strategic reserve - c. 30,000

The Civil Service Supporting Structure consists of:

Agency for the operation of the Ardoki government, nominally based in Panessos City, The Free States of Ailanor; numbering 130,000 civil servants; consisting of:

1. The Ardoki Joint Planning Offices of the IFC, the Aestorian Commonwealth Agency, and the Decis Confederacy, based in Alexandria, Ausitoria; numbering c. 90,000 civil servants, including HQ
2. The IFC Defence Forces Office, c. 2,000 civil servants assisting the Ardea HQ Legion
3. The IFC Observing Forces Office, c. 2,000 civil servants & 10,000 military forces
4. The IFC Military Police Office, c 5,000 civil servants; overseeing 10,000 police
5. The Ardoki Joint Administrative Operations Liason Office, based in Ardea, Ardoki; numbering c. 10,000 civil servants; with c. 40,000 guards seconded, including 30,000 for the protection of other IFC residents, including media organizations, families, etc.
6. The Ardoki Joint Administrative Observation Office, based in Ardea, Ardoki; numbering c. 20,000 civil servants; with c. 20,000 guards seconded for personal protection
7. Additional support from the the Alexandrian government, based in Alexandria, Ausitoria; of variable size, including a new prison and associated operational and administrative support.

I can't give more details as they are subject to continuous IC revision.

There will be no insurgency or civil war, our people and military will support our government no matter the cost.

If it comes to it, which government? Resolution 21 c refers to IFC as establishing their own government, which will be 'advised and where feasible directed by the collaborating remaining elements of the prior government of Ardoki' (emphasis mine). At present those powers they are not directly exercising have been temporarily "delegated to such collaborating elements as required for the proper administration of the country", but under IFC law, the IFC government could completely bypass unco-operative elements; or even the entire "prior" Ardoki government if they felt it suitable, who are on astonishingly thin ice as it is.

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:And you can assume that is what Ausitorian officials are secretly warning the current Ardoki cabinet, as of the weekend of the 9th-10th July.


Our government will meet with Prince Kazpia and the other advisers in my next post. We can discuss some of these issues.

Certainly.
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Postby Organized States » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:12 pm

I personally believe that there is no need for 82,000 troops in Ardoki. It's excessive. We don't need to surge.
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Postby Guadalupador » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:18 pm

Organized States wrote:I personally believe that there is no need for 82,000 troops in Ardoki. It's excessive. We don't need to surge.

Ardoki is quite the large country though.
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