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Riysa
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Founded: Jan 07, 2013
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Postby Riysa » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:45 pm

Asigna wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
With no offense to him, Asigna is as big superpower as Chicken is a whale. 1/3 of its fleet was recently blasted off by SACTO with no losses.


1/3 is an overstatement. Not to mention i genuinely had no idea you were planning an attack due to my lack of hostile intent at the time. In short: Betrayal.


Mighty funny how close you were hanging to Bashriyah in that RP and trying to infiltrate spies...and who was it that said that we lack subterfuge?

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Topkekkia
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Founded: Oct 23, 2015
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Postby Topkekkia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:46 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Asigna wrote:
1/3 is an overstatement. Not to mention i genuinely had no idea you were planning an attack due to my lack of hostile intent at the time. In short: Betrayal.


It was estimated that a single carrier is about 10% of USN military capability. So yeah - me, Riysa and IYF blasted out around 30% of your navy's combat potential off the waters.

How is a single carrier 10%? I have three, URA has what seems to be eight, putting us at eleven from just two nations that I quickly dragged up. This means that each carrier is 9.09% (est) of our naval capacity, if you're only looking at carriers, and that's not factoring in the other (something like seven) active nations or other vessels.
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Asigna
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Founded: Aug 24, 2013
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Postby Asigna » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:48 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Asigna wrote:
1/3 is an overstatement. Not to mention i genuinely had no idea you were planning an attack due to my lack of hostile intent at the time. In short: Betrayal.

> Puts not one, not two, but three carriers and accompanying vessels well within strike range of SACTO bases and allies in Israel, Lebanon and Turkey
> Moved against SACTO ally in Bashryia
> Blatantly supported terrorist group who was attacking us
> Never signed any formal peace or ceasefire
> "Betrayal"


Well, the Mediterranean fleet basically had been neglected by the administration anyway since it had "other matters". Not to mention a lot of the equipment of the fleet was World war II grade. (I mean, have you seen the makeup of the fleet? It was filled with minesweepers, destroyers.... i actually copied the ORBAT from the Nazi amphibuous invasion force used in Norway :p only with a few sub standard Nimitz like clone carriers, but i forgive myself since i didn't bother to change the ORBAT because i made that back in 2013 or 2014, i don't remember, probably when i first came to LCR's rps)

Oh, and for the sake of this alliance, let us stop posting here. This is my final post on the matter.
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Bahtar
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Founded: Mar 19, 2016
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Postby Bahtar » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:49 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
It was estimated that a single carrier is about 10% of USN military capability. So yeah - me, Riysa and IYF blasted out around 30% of your navy's combat potential off the waters.

How is a single carrier 10%? I have three, URA has what seems to be eight, putting us at eleven from just two nations that I quickly dragged up. This means that each carrier is 9.09% (est) of our naval capacity, if you're only looking at carriers, and that's not factoring in the other (something like seven) active nations or other vessels.

AA also has a few carriers.
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The United Remnants of America
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Posts: 17599
Founded: Mar 09, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby The United Remnants of America » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:49 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
It was estimated that a single carrier is about 10% of USN military capability. So yeah - me, Riysa and IYF blasted out around 30% of your navy's combat potential off the waters.

How is a single carrier 10%? I have three, URA has what seems to be eight, putting us at eleven from just two nations that I quickly dragged up. This means that each carrier is 9.09% (est) of our naval capacity, if you're only looking at carriers, and that's not factoring in the other (something like seven) active nations or other vessels.

I have 8 Olympia Class Aircraft Carriers and 3 Titan Class Super-Carriers. So 11.
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Topkekkia
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Founded: Oct 23, 2015
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Postby Topkekkia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:51 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Topkekkia wrote:How is a single carrier 10%? I have three, URA has what seems to be eight, putting us at eleven from just two nations that I quickly dragged up. This means that each carrier is 9.09% (est) of our naval capacity, if you're only looking at carriers, and that's not factoring in the other (something like seven) active nations or other vessels.

I have 8 Olympia Class Aircraft Carriers and 3 Titan Class Super-Carriers. So 11.

Alright, so that's fourteen between two out of (I'm 90% sure it's ten) nations. My point stands even more.
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Inyourfaceistan
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Posts: 12585
Founded: Aug 20, 2012
Anarchy

Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:54 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
It was estimated that a single carrier is about 10% of USN military capability. So yeah - me, Riysa and IYF blasted out around 30% of your navy's combat potential off the waters.

How is a single carrier 10%? I have three, URA has what seems to be eight, putting us at eleven from just two nations that I quickly dragged up. This means that each carrier is 9.09% (est) of our naval capacity, if you're only looking at carriers, and that's not factoring in the other (something like seven) active nations or other vessels.

Asigna has 9 carriers last time we checked (of course that was also before I blasted them out of the water and brought a victory for freedom triumphing over progressivism), so a single carrier is actually more than 10% of his total carrier force.

However, Cusc was using USN figures for example...


It's not French,it's not Spanish,it's Inyurstan
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The United Remnants of America
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Founded: Mar 09, 2013
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:54 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:I have 8 Olympia Class Aircraft Carriers and 3 Titan Class Super-Carriers. So 11.

Alright, so that's fourteen between two out of (I'm 90% sure it's ten) nations. My point stands even more.

Tangaliro has 26 from four different classes, three of those classes are imports.
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Topkekkia
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Founded: Oct 23, 2015
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Postby Topkekkia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:55 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Topkekkia wrote:How is a single carrier 10%? I have three, URA has what seems to be eight, putting us at eleven from just two nations that I quickly dragged up. This means that each carrier is 9.09% (est) of our naval capacity, if you're only looking at carriers, and that's not factoring in the other (something like seven) active nations or other vessels.

Asigna has 9 carriers last time we checked (of course that was also before I blasted them out of the water and brought a victory for freedom triumphing over progressivism), so a single carrier is actually more than 10% of his total carrier force.

However, Cusc was using USN figures for example...

His USN figures were innacurate.
The United Remnants of America wrote:
Topkekkia wrote:Alright, so that's fourteen between two out of (I'm 90% sure it's ten) nations. My point stands even more.

Tangaliro has 26 from four different classes, three of those classes are imports.

Alright, I'm just going to label our count as "a metric fuckton" for now, we should do a census some time.
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Great Feng
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby Great Feng » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:56 pm

USN and SACTO fighting?
Oh no! Feng better into neutrality!
EDIT: Jk, I'll help both sides.
Last edited by Great Feng on Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Great Feng
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby Great Feng » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:01 pm

I'll be making the Yujing Pact soon-A group of nations that support each other militarily and economically, and defend each other if one of them is attacked. Like NATO.
It'll be for nations of any form of government, but those with human rights abuses won't be allowed in. In addition, it has a high standards and nations may have to wait a while before being accepted in, though they can be classified as "Unofficial Yujing Pact Partners".

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Topkekkia
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Founded: Oct 23, 2015
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Postby Topkekkia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:01 pm

Great Feng wrote:USN and SACTO fighting?
Oh no! Feng better into neutrality!
EDIT: Jk, I'll help both sides.

Septacentimilletuple teamkill?
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Topkekkia
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Founded: Oct 23, 2015
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Postby Topkekkia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:02 pm

Great Feng wrote:I'll be making the Yujing Pact soon-A group of nations that support each other militarily and economically, and defend each other if one of them is attacked. Like NATO.
It'll be for nations of any form of government, but those with human rights abuses won't be allowed in. In addition, it has a high standards and nations may have to wait a while before being accepted in, though they can be classified as "Unofficial Yujing Pact Partners".

Oh good, it's official now.
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Great Feng
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby Great Feng » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:03 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
Great Feng wrote:USN and SACTO fighting?
Oh no! Feng better into neutrality!
EDIT: Jk, I'll help both sides.

Septacentimilletuple teamkill?

I'd only help the USN if you were in danger-We have a mutual defense pact, after all, and I can't lose my right hand man. :hug:

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Great Feng
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby Great Feng » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:07 pm

Topkekkia wrote:
Great Feng wrote:I'll be making the Yujing Pact soon-A group of nations that support each other militarily and economically, and defend each other if one of them is attacked. Like NATO.
It'll be for nations of any form of government, but those with human rights abuses won't be allowed in. In addition, it has a high standards and nations may have to wait a while before being accepted in, though they can be classified as "Unofficial Yujing Pact Partners".

Oh good, it's official now.

I said I was going to make Feng be stronk! ;)

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Inyourfaceistan
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Founded: Aug 20, 2012
Anarchy

Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:08 pm

Asigna wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:> Puts not one, not two, but three carriers and accompanying vessels well within strike range of SACTO bases and allies in Israel, Lebanon and Turkey
> Moved against SACTO ally in Bashryia
> Blatantly supported terrorist group who was attacking us
> Never signed any formal peace or ceasefire
> "Betrayal"

Well, the Mediterranean fleet basically had been neglected by the administration anyway since it had "other matters". Not to mention a lot of the equipment of the fleet was World war II grade. (I mean, have you seen the makeup of the fleet? It was filled with minesweepers, destroyers.... i actually copied the ORBAT from the Nazi amphibuous invasion force used in Norway :p only with a few sub standard Nimitz like clone carriers, but i forgive myself since i didn't bother to change the ORBAT because i made that back in 2013 or 2014, i don't remember, probably when i first came to LCR's rps)

Well then that's your own fault for sending an ill-equipped fleet into strike range of hostile enemy forces, not some "betrayal".
Betrayal would be someone assuming a naziesque mantra, adopting leftist "progressivism" (cute code word for western Neo-Imperialism) and turning on their former alliance mates and trying to arrest and sacrifice their diplomatic staff...

And a Nimitz can carry over 85 aircraft and is equipped with effective and functioning radar and self-defense systems. Any carrier in the same league as a Nimitz is hardly "sub-standard", especially considering most nations carriers hold 20-40 aircraft...

Topkekkia wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:Asigna has 9 carriers last time we checked (of course that was also before I blasted them out of the water and brought a victory for freedom triumphing over progressivism), so a single carrier is actually more than 10% of his total carrier force.

However, Cusc was using USN figures for example...

His USN figures were innacurate.

Hardly.
A single carrier usually heads up a carrier group. The U.S. Navy operates 10 carrier groups, therefore 1 carrier is roughly 10% of the USN's total surface force.
Do tell me where my basic math is wrong.
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The United Remnants of America
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Founded: Mar 09, 2013
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:10 pm

Great Feng wrote:
Topkekkia wrote:Oh good, it's official now.

I said I was going to make Feng be stronk! ;)

Well.

Time to reconstitute the PBA.
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Asigna
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Founded: Aug 24, 2013
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Postby Asigna » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:11 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:And a Nimitz can carry over 85 aircraft and is equipped with effective and functioning radar and self-defense systems. Any carrier in the same league as a Nimitz is hardly "sub-standard", especially considering most nations carriers hold 20-40 aircraft...


Didn't you listen? I said Nimitz sub standard clone, which means it's like i both an Iphone without the actual Iphone software. Sort of like what you can basically buy from China products.
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The United Remnants of America
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Founded: Mar 09, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby The United Remnants of America » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:12 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Asigna wrote:Well, the Mediterranean fleet basically had been neglected by the administration anyway since it had "other matters". Not to mention a lot of the equipment of the fleet was World war II grade. (I mean, have you seen the makeup of the fleet? It was filled with minesweepers, destroyers.... i actually copied the ORBAT from the Nazi amphibuous invasion force used in Norway :p only with a few sub standard Nimitz like clone carriers, but i forgive myself since i didn't bother to change the ORBAT because i made that back in 2013 or 2014, i don't remember, probably when i first came to LCR's rps)

Well then that's your own fault for sending an ill-equipped fleet into strike range of hostile enemy forces, not some "betrayal".
Betrayal would be someone assuming a naziesque mantra, adopting leftist "progressivism" (cute code word for western Neo-Imperialism) and turning on their former alliance mates and trying to arrest and sacrifice their diplomatic staff...

And a Nimitz can carry over 85 aircraft and is equipped with effective and functioning radar and self-defense systems. Any carrier in the same league as a Nimitz is hardly "sub-standard", especially considering most nations carriers hold 20-40 aircraft...

Topkekkia wrote:His USN figures were innacurate.

Hardly.
A single carrier usually heads up a carrier group. The U.S. Navy operates 10 carrier groups, therefore 1 carrier is roughly 10% of the USN's total surface force.
Do tell me where my basic math is wrong.


Oh. When he says USN in the USN thread, he means United States Navy, not United Socialist Nations.

How silly of us to confuse those two when you're using the acronym without context clues on this particular thread.
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New Aeyariss
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Postby New Aeyariss » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:16 pm

Yeah. I am sort of accustomed to referring to US Navy as USN.
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Topkekkia
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Founded: Oct 23, 2015
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Postby Topkekkia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:18 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:Yeah. I am sort of accustomed to referring to US Navy as USN.

Well that clears things up a lot.
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Great Feng
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Founded: Dec 08, 2015
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Postby Great Feng » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:27 pm


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Asigna
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Founded: Aug 24, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Asigna » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:44 pm

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:exams are over yay


Party time.
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

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Aeyariss
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Founded: Mar 26, 2010
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Aeyariss » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:01 pm

Great Feng wrote:I'll just do something that makes me useful to SACTO.

Still trying to win brownie point with SACTO eh?

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