Alliance of Democratic States [OOC - Sign-up]

[Victoriala]

It currently is dead at the helm, which is particularly harmful. Perhaps we could hold some sort of elections or such to get things going again.

And something to get busy with.

[Pillowlandia]

Quite true.

[Aeyariss]

Well I was hoping this can rise up to replace the IFC.

[Pillowlandia]

I doubt it could, with out serious work, rise to replace the IFC. Especially given that we have many shared members, however we could define a niche for ourselves and thrive from that instead of competing head on.

[United States of Devonta]

I doubt it could, with out serious work, rise to replace the IFC. Especially given that we have many shared members, however we could define a niche for ourselves and thrive from that instead of competing head on.

Yes, i was hoping it would too.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Well I was hoping this can rise up to replace the IFC.

Why? How can the IFC improve?

I doubt it could, with out serious work, rise to replace the IFC. Especially given that we have many shared members, however we could define a niche for ourselves and thrive from that instead of competing head on.

Yes, i was hoping it would too.

What niche would that be?

[Victoriala]

I doubt it could, with out serious work, rise to replace the IFC. Especially given that we have many shared members, however we could define a niche for ourselves and thrive from that instead of competing head on.

Well, we need first to have a definite visual identity to brand ourselves. USN has one, SACTO has one, IFC has one, etc etc.

[United States of Devonta]

Well I was hoping this can rise up to replace the IFC.

Why? How can the IFC improve?

Yes, i was hoping it would too.

What niche would that be?

I was gonna withdraw from the IFC if this alliance picks up.

[Soviet Farm]

OOC thread for the Joint RP with the ADL:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=376887&p=28613593#p28613593

I also agree with Pillow. An election is needed

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Why? How can the IFC improve?


What niche would that be?

I was gonna withdraw from the IFC if this alliance picks up.

Any reason? The IFC can't improve if people don't say how.

[Arctic Aurelia]

Alliance of Democratic States Membership Commission River House, New Carlingford, Carloso Official application for ADS membership National Information National title: The Confederacy of Nation name: Arctic Aurelia Demonym: Aurelian Capital city: Arctic Aurelia City Roleplay population: 120 million Government: Confederacy Democratic government: [YES] Right to free speech: [YES] Right to access information: [YES] Freedom of religion: [YES] Freedom of the media: YES] Right to peaceful assembly: [YES] Freedom of association: [YES] Freedom of movement: [YES] Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: [YES] Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: [YES] Freedom from slavery: [YES] Universal suffrage: [YES] Criminal suffrage: [NO] Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: [YES] Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: [YES] Freedom from discrimination: [YES] Head of State: Vladimir Otzkin Head of Government: Economic System: Capitalism Currency: Dank Meme Exchange Rate to NSD: 5 DM per NSD Major Exports: Trout Fishing, Automobile Major Imports: Weapons Language: English + Russian National history (summary): Nation founded on the basic principles of the United States of America, set up in Antarctica IIwiki or Factbook link: Foreign Relations Military alliance memberships: None as of yet Non-military alliance memberships: None as of yet Foreign Policy: Aggressive Diplomat Number of active military personnel (RP): 1,000,000 personnel across the branches Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 250,000 personnel across the branches Nuclear Arsenal: 10,000 nuclear warheads Name of Military: Arctic Aurelian Armed Forces (AAAF) Branches of Military: Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines RP example (link or 150 word sample) ADS representative information Name: Oleg Kruschev Age: 40 Gender: Male Biography (optional): Former Special forces operative. Honorable discharge. Arctic Aurelia's foreign policy advisor Education (optional): 2 Doctorates in Law and Economics Conclusion The applicant nation hereby undertakes to follow the terms of the ADS charter: Signature: ARCTIC AURELIA Date:MAY 4TH, 2016 **ADSAPP**

[Pillowlandia]

alright so I've taken a poke around and I'v[*]e come up with the primary difference between us and the IFC. Plus, it could/should be our little special NS niche.

IFC:

The IFC's essential purpose is to safeguard international freedom and security through political and military means.

ADS:

The ADS is an alliance dedicated to the safeguarding of democracy across the world.

Alright, so I hear you saying "what's the difference?" Well the difference is that while often times freedom and democracy go hand in hand they do not necessarily. A benevolent enough dicator could technically join the IFC,if they wanted someone like that (more or less), however with the ADS we seem to have decided to focus on promoting Democracy. As such we are fundamentally two different but not exclusive organizations. As such I propose that going forward we refocus on promoting Democracy as a group instead of a generic freedom.

Yeah so that's my two cents, and given that our current CnC is.... well tbh I have no idea who was in charge but they seem to have become too busy for NS (nothing against that). As such, I will be organizing elections. If you wish to run for a position TG me or just post in this thread (preferably the latter cause I'm lazy). Because we are a bit smaller I think that it will be best to simply have elections for:

• Chair(wo)man
• Minister of Finance
• QRF Commander

The other positions I was thinking that we could combine/assign on an as needed basis.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

alright so I've taken a poke around and I'v[*]e come up with the primary difference between us and the IFC. Plus, it could/should be our little special NS niche.

IFC:

The IFC's essential purpose is to safeguard international freedom and security through political and military means.

ADS:

The ADS is an alliance dedicated to the safeguarding of democracy across the world.

Alright, so I hear you saying "what's the difference?" Well the difference is that while often times freedom and democracy go hand in hand they do not necessarily. A benevolent enough dicator could technically join the IFC,if they wanted someone like that (more or less), however with the ADS we seem to have decided to focus on promoting Democracy. As such we are fundamentally two different but not exclusive organizations.

I think I should point out that most of the IFC doesn't see any difference between freedom and democracy, and even if a dictatorship was completely free in every other way, I think there would need to be at least functioning representative elements for me to accept a nation, with democratic opinion de-facto binding as though in a democratic nation, even if not actually de-jure binding. In short, the freedom to effectively control your own government is an important type of freedom. That interpretation means that the ADS's aims are entirely encompassed in the aims of the IFC (even if the focus is different - and better, I think).

[Pillowlandia]

alright so I've taken a poke around and I'v[*]e come up with the primary difference between us and the IFC. Plus, it could/should be our little special NS niche.

IFC:


ADS:


Alright, so I hear you saying "what's the difference?" Well the difference is that while often times freedom and democracy go hand in hand they do not necessarily. A benevolent enough dicator could technically join the IFC,if they wanted someone like that (more or less), however with the ADS we seem to have decided to focus on promoting Democracy. As such we are fundamentally two different but not exclusive organizations.

I think I should point out that most of the IFC doesn't see any difference between freedom and democracy, and even if a dictatorship was completely free in every other way, I think there would need to be at least functioning representative elements for me to accept a nation, with democratic opinion de-facto binding as though in a democratic nation, even if not actually de-jure binding. In short, the freedom to effectively control your own government is an important type of freedom. That interpretation means that the ADS's aims are entirely encompassed in the aims of the IFC (even if the focus is different - and better, I think).

Shhhhh, I'm just trying to make the ADS great again. Plus, even if it's a tiny differentiation it's still a differential feature.

[Wasabiton]

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Official application for ADS membership

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National Information

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National title: The United Commonwealth of
Nation name: Wasabiton
Demonym: Wasabitonian
Capital city: Finchland
Roleplay population: 500 million
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Democratic government: Yes
Right to free speech: Yes
Right to access information: Yes
Freedom of religion: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Right to peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Universal suffrage: Yes
Criminal suffrage: Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Freedom from discrimination: Yes
Head of State: Ron Swamson
Head of Government: King Issac II
Economic System: Democratic Socialism
Currency: Kronkle
Exchange Rate to NSD: 1 Kronkle= 2 NSD
Major Exports: Uranium
Major Imports: Silk
Language: English
National history (summary): Formed After a major war that wrecked south America we went from a communist dictatorship to a constitutional monarchy.
IIwiki or Factbook link: none

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Foreign Relations

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Military alliance memberships: International Democratic Alliance
Non-military alliance memberships: none
Foreign Policy: Will only attack if Allies ar in danger or if we are attacked first.
Number of active military personnel (RP): 1 Million soldiers
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 5 Million soldiers
Nuclear Arsenal: 5,000
Name of Military: Wasabiton Royal Military
Branches of Military: Wasabiton Airforce, Wasabiton Royal Army, And the Wasabiton Royal Navy.
RP example Will post A link In a few hours.

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ADS representative information

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Name: Barry Finch
Age:40 years old
Gender:Male
Biography (optional):
Education (optional):

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Conclusion

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The applicant nation hereby undertakes to follow the terms of the ADS charter:

Signature: _____Wasabiton___________________

Date:___________5/11/16___________

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ADS Council
Chair: Greater Carloso
Minister

[Pillowlandia]

Another thing, just how many people are like active? I'd like a rough count for vote count purposes.

[Victoriala]

Another thing, just how many people are like active? I'd like a rough count for vote count purposes.

Just waiting for something to happen.

[Wasabiton]

Another thing, just how many people are like active? I'd like a rough count for vote count purposes.

I'm here

[Salderia]

Another thing, just how many people are like active? I'd like a rough count for vote count purposes.

You may be able to take temporary control, until the actual leaders have time for NS. And if they never come back, well, then you can brand the ADS. I personally would like the IFC and ADS to become close allies as we represent similar ideals. Even if both of us (IFC and ADS) aren't the same, we are close enough ideologically, plus we should accept others for their differences, for that is essential for both freedom and democracy.

[Keshokif]

Alliance of Democratic States Membership Commission River House, New Carlingford, Carloso Official application for ADS membership National Information National title: The Federal Republic of Nation name: Keshokif Demonym: Keshokific (adj.), Keshokifian (n.) Capital city: Kesshoməxiki Roleplay population: 11,032,106 Government: Federal Multi-Party Republic with aspects of Direct Democracy Democratic government: [Y] Right to free speech: [Y] Right to access information: [Y] Freedom of religion: [Y] Freedom of the media: [Y] Right to peaceful assembly: [Y] Freedom of association: [Y] Freedom of movement: [Y] Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: [Y] Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: [Y] Freedom from slavery: [Y] Universal suffrage: [Y] Criminal suffrage: [Y] Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: [Y] Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: [Y] Freedom from discrimination: [Y] Head of State: President Kkeli Munnuba Head of Government: People's Justiciar Mmeni Txirrana Economic System: Mixed Economy Currency: Nrelullepi (Ń) Exchange Rate to NSD: $1.00 = Ń21.00 Major Exports: Copper, livestock, minerals, foodstuffs Major Imports: Machinery, automobiles, building materials, medicines Language: Errekele National history: Keshokif emerged from out of the remains of the Kingdom of Penəxxi as a mercantile republic in the early 1500s. Back then, the odds were heavily stacked against all who were not patricians in the new state. However, nearly 500 years of republican semi-democracy have transformed the nation into a hallmark for political freedoms and human rights. While maintaining a fairly peaceful existence with a policy of neutrality, which it follows almost religiously, it has developed into a nation where the people rule. With 61 constituent republics, each with their own customs and constitutions, the Federal Republic is a very loose collection, but a valuable one nonetheless. IIwiki or Factbook link: Factbook (WIP) Foreign Relations Military alliance memberships: None Non-military alliance memberships: IFC Foreign Policy: Espouses freedoms and justice for all. Trade always appreciated. Does not trade with dictatorships or countries with severe human rights issues. Number of active military personnel: 30,000 (strict cap placed on military in peacetime) Number of reserve military personnel: 241,371 Nuclear Arsenal: None Name of Military: Kulorra Susshaduca Kesshokifu anu (Keshokific Defence Authority) Branches of Military: Kiffu anu Kulorra Susshaduca (Land Defence Authority) Mmide anu Kulorra Susshaduca (Sea Defence Authority) Ketta anu Kulorra Susshaduca (Air Defence Authority) RP example: IFC Council Summit ADS representative information Name: Dr. Tsxukki Sossha Age: 39 Gender: Male Biography: Sossha was born in the coldest region of Keshokif in terms of average temperatures. Being very close to the mountains, he enjoyed mountain sports as a child, such as skiing and hiking, often doing both in the space of one day, with his family. In primary school, he had to hike for an hour in order to attend, as the roads around the region were very often completely snowed-over. He therefore excelled in numerous physical activities, such as sports and health. However, his passion was debating. In his fifth year of Primary School, he won the Keshokif National Debating Prize (Primary Level) and was given a scholarship to any one of Keshokif's top 30 universities, as well as a decent bursary. After graduating High School, he attended the Northern University, a highly appraised university in Keshokif's North. He graduated from his bachelor of Political Science and Journalism, before moving on to complete a masters and then a doctorate in Political Science. After joining the Diplomatic Service, he was given a position as a councillor in the service's administrative branch, before being moved on to representation. Education: High School - Northern Tundras Academy (Leaver Score: Ɛ0 (132)) Bachelor of Politics/Bachelor of Social Sciences (PolS/Jour) Conclusion The applicant nation hereby undertakes to follow the terms of the ADS charter: Signature: Dr. Tsxukki Sossha Date: 13/05/2016 **ADSAPP**

[Pillowlandia]

Does anyone oppose me being elected interim chairman until we can make things less of a mess and hold better elections/have more people interested in governing? I've 'tapped' The Unified Isles and New Tuva SSR to sort of lead a governing coalition until proper elections can really be held, if that is alright with anyone. Just say nay if you don't like this. Else I will just assume that you all are okay with it. Plus, if we start to be more active we can actually like grow and such.

[Wasabiton]

Does anyone oppose me being elected interim chairman until we can make things less of a mess and hold better elections/have more people interested in governing? I've 'tapped' The Unified Isles and New Tuva SSR to sort of lead a governing coalition until proper elections can really be held, if that is alright with anyone. Just say nay if you don't like this. Else I will just assume that you all are okay with it. Plus, if we start to be more active we can actually like grow and such.

I'm all for it.

[Aeyariss]

Does anyone oppose me being elected interim chairman until we can make things less of a mess and hold better elections/have more people interested in governing? I've 'tapped' The Unified Isles and New Tuva SSR to sort of lead a governing coalition until proper elections can really be held, if that is alright with anyone. Just say nay if you don't like this. Else I will just assume that you all are okay with it. Plus, if we start to be more active we can actually like grow and such.

No problem, better for someone to take the helm and push in some initiative instead of letting this community die.

[Pillowlandia]

Very well then. As the first order of business.

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Boom, just like that we now have 9 new members. Welcome to the ADS.

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Second order of business, to encourage a group cohesion and get some momentum back in the sail, lets prepare a new alliance RP. The war game one didn't take off for once primary reason, no one joined. This was compounded by the fact that once it got going it was hard, almost impossible to get in or even want to get in. As such we need some interesting Ideas. Anything really, if its out there we can tag it as a simulation or something. But any ideas will do.

Um... third order of business would be to begin standardizing the QRF and preparing it to be capable of actual deployments. I have a few weapons that have stats already on the forum that would very nicely fit into the whole 'standardization' idea (and it may or may not drive down the prices for me to buy it ICly because economies of scale). Anyone who would like to do that or help me with that would be appreciated. The QRF will be important for us to show to the rest of the forums that we exist and aren't just a copy pasta of the IFC, although we do have some striking resemblances.

[Yymea]

I´m still here. I´m not sure what the rp could be about though.