League of Mechanocracies 2.0 [Sign-ups/OOC/OPEN]

[Vistora]

So, in the interests of combating this nonsense, I want to make a puppet specifically for fighting "omniversal giants". I have two options:

1. I could flesh out Excidium Universalis (basically what happens when Excidian mentality is applied to Aeiouian technology: Military Techwank to the the highest degree). This would be sooper seerius, but would likely consist of "We warp planet-destroying explosives directly into your ships while dodging all attacks thanks to precognition. Post losses."
   
   
2. I considered an organization dedicated to stopping, rather than annihilating, multiversal powers wherever they attack. It would be made up of a plethora of supernatural beings and advanced technological things, and would not usually engage in direct warfare, instead preferring espionage, sabotage, and surgical strikes (basically like the Fellowship of the Ring of the multiverse). This would be very silly, and the posts would be more creative.

Not a bad idea, but I think Ashkera's Sublime Peace (which seems to have CTE'd), took the cake in terms of most original anti-omnifucker forces.

[Excidium Planetis]

Not a bad idea, but I think Ashkera's Sublime Peace (which seems to have CTE'd), took the cake in terms of most original anti-omnifucker forces.

Sublime Peace is an omnifucker force. They just don't kill the universes they conquer, as far as I can tell.

I'm pulling your leg. This is a puppet of Ashkera created to flip Omniversal Dominators as a sort of reverse Omniversal Dominator (on the Suffering and War axis, not the Assimilation axis. The latter could also be interesting. Maybe something like a wave of Anarchism).

[Vistora]

Not a bad idea, but I think Ashkera's Sublime Peace (which seems to have CTE'd), took the cake in terms of most original anti-omnifucker forces.

Sublime Peace is an omnifucker force. They just don't kill the universes they conquer, as far as I can tell.

I'm pulling your leg. This is a puppet of Ashkera created to flip Omniversal Dominators as a sort of reverse Omniversal Dominator (on the Suffering and War axis, not the Assimilation axis. The latter could also be interesting. Maybe something like a wave of Anarchism).

To fight omnifuckers... one must become an omnifucker!

[Excidium Planetis]

Sublime Peace is an omnifucker force. They just don't kill the universes they conquer, as far as I can tell.

To fight omnifuckers... one must become an omnifucker!

Not if one is an interdimensional organization of tech-assisted monsters who fight the omnifuckers.

[Vistora]

To fight omnifuckers... one must become an omnifucker!

Not if one is an interdimensional organization of tech-assisted monsters who fight the omnifuckers.

But wouldn't that make you an omnifucker?

[Excidium Planetis]

Not if one is an interdimensional organization of tech-assisted monsters who fight the omnifuckers.

But wouldn't that make you an omnifucker?

They have no territory and don't invade other nations. So no, they aren't omnifuckers.

[Vistora]

But wouldn't that make you an omnifucker?

They have no territory and don't invade other nations. So no, they aren't omnifuckers.

Neither did Sublime Peace, iirc

[Excidium Planetis]

They have no territory and don't invade other nations. So no, they aren't omnifuckers.

Neither did Sublime Peace, iirc

Sublime Peace has territory and does indeed assimilate nations into itself. Didn't you read the post I quoted?

[Vistora]

Neither did Sublime Peace, iirc

Sublime Peace has territory and does indeed assimilate nations into itself. Didn't you read the post I quoted?

I read the post itself, but not the rest of the thread it's from. I assumed that, as a reverse Omniversal Dominator, it existed only as an opposing force. It was meant to be some freaky lotus-eater SCP dimension or some such.

Perhaps we should wait for Ashkera's confirmation on this, considering it's his former nation...

[Excidium Planetis]

I'm pulling your leg. This is a puppet of Ashkera created to flip Omniversal Dominators as a sort of reverse Omniversal Dominator (on the Suffering and War axis, not the Assimilation axis. The latter could also be interesting. Maybe something like a wave of Anarchism).

Seems pretty clear from that comment that Sublime Peace was meant to be a "nice peacekeeping force here to make you all happy" to contrast the "kill everything, destroyer of worlds!!" Omnifuckers.

(Note that this would be the exact opposite of my intended puppet, which would be a violent but near-anarchic force with no intent to sway the multiverse to its whims.)

Sadly, Sublime Peace itself CTE'd so I can't look at Ashkera's factbooks. I will await Ashkera's comments.

[Cumberlanda]

Anyone know what's become of the New Tolbi RP? It seems to have ground to a halt.

I'm just waiting for Andromeda to post, after which I will respond to yours as well. I suppose I should, at this point, slice my posts in half for each character until they are reunified.

I'm so sorry mate

I said I'd get to it Sunday but here it is Tuesday morning

I'll get to it this evening.

[Singaporean Transhumans]

I'm pulling your leg. This is a puppet of Ashkera created to flip Omniversal Dominators as a sort of reverse Omniversal Dominator (on the Suffering and War axis, not the Assimilation axis. The latter could also be interesting. Maybe something like a wave of Anarchism).

Seems pretty clear from that comment that Sublime Peace was meant to be a "nice peacekeeping force here to make you all happy" to contrast the "kill everything, destroyer of worlds!!" Omnifuckers.

(Note that this would be the exact opposite of my intended puppet, which would be a violent but near-anarchic force with no intent to sway the multiverse to its whims.)

Sadly, Sublime Peace itself CTE'd so I can't look at Ashkera's factbooks. I will await Ashkera's comments.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=exfactbooks

[Blakullar]

A small phrase:

Bomb the shit outa them.

Works for my other nation too.

Bombs can't pay for such a large bureaucracy, though. Starships and power armor don't come cheap.

>money
>problematic
>in FT

You know you done goofed when that happens.

[New Frenco Empire]

Bombs can't pay for such a large bureaucracy, though. Starships and power armor don't come cheap.

>money
>problematic
>in FT

You know you done goofed when that happens.

I mean, money isn't a problem, but I imagine it would be if you vegan genociding all the taxpayers.

Not even the point of the original comment, though. Aterria took that in a different direction. The point is that FT Frenco is just chilling, being all complacent and stuff about not waging large-scale war for almost a century while everyone else fights across the galaxy. Like America in the early years of the world wars. We need a Lusitania or Zimmerman Note or Pearl Harbor to throw us back in the mess.

[Blakullar]

>money
>problematic
>in FT

You know you done goofed when that happens.

I mean, money isn't a problem, but I imagine it would be if you vegan genociding all the taxpayers.

Not even the point of the original comment, though. Aterria took that in a different direction. The point is that FT Frenco is just chilling, being all complacent and stuff about not waging large-scale war for almost a century while everyone else fights across the galaxy. Like America in the early years of the world wars. We need a Lusitania or Zimmerman Note or Pearl Harbor to throw us back in the mess.

Interesting. I envisioned a scenario similar to the present one, where there would be a period of intense hostility (but no properly massive-scale fighting) between FTMekh and the PTI.

The Mechanocratic narrative would focus on Trotskaya's struggles with chronic existential crisis-related depression, believing herself to have failed her people through her inability to unite humanity under the Mechanocratic ideology post-Contact because of the PTI. Making things worse, someone very special to her defected from the Mechanocracy to the PTI, believing that she was leading Mankind in the wrong direction by splitting the Mechanocracy and the PTI apart.

[Gigaverse]

That's... great, guys. Just one thing:

Ｔｈｅｒｅ’ｓ　ｎｏ　ｎｅｗ　ｐｏｓｔ　ｏｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｕｒｒｅｎｔ　ｔｈｒｅａｄ

[Blakullar]

That's... great, guys. Just one thing:

Ｔｈｅｒｅ’ｓ　ｎｏ　ｎｅｗ　ｐｏｓｔ　ｏｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｕｒｒｅｎｔ　ｔｈｒｅａｄ

Well, don't yell at me about that. Fren's busy with work/study, and I have no clue where everyone else has fucked off to (apart from Auroya, who's been helping out on the wiki a bit).

[Aeiouia]

So, in the interests of combating this nonsense, I want to make a puppet specifically for fighting "omniversal giants". I have two options:

1. I could flesh out Excidium Universalis (basically what happens when Excidian mentality is applied to Aeiouian technology: Military Techwank to the the highest degree). This would be sooper seerius, but would likely consist of "We warp planet-destroying explosives directly into your ships while dodging all attacks thanks to precognition. Post losses."
   
   
2. I considered an organization dedicated to stopping, rather than annihilating, multiversal powers wherever they attack. It would be made up of a plethora of supernatural beings and advanced technological things, and would not usually engage in direct warfare, instead preferring espionage, sabotage, and surgical strikes (basically like the Fellowship of the Ring of the multiverse). This would be very silly, and the posts would be more creative.

If the "Omniversal Giants" attack again, I can join in the fun with Post-Reconstruction Aeiouia (Which is Aeiouia after it accomplishes its Secret-In-Character goals, assuming the best possible "Good Ending" in this particular case). Which would probably hate them with a burning passion, and join the organization that you mentioned in a heartbeat... Though I would mainly do it just for the fact that I could bring in Sane Iris, and have her complain about and yell at the multiversal destroyers ad-nauseam.

[Gigaverse]

That's... great, guys. Just one thing:

Ｔｈｅｒｅ’ｓ　ｎｏ　ｎｅｗ　ｐｏｓｔ　ｏｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｕｒｒｅｎｔ　ｔｈｒｅａｄ

Well, don't yell at me about that. Fren's busy with work/study, and I have no clue where everyone else has fucked off to (apart from Auroya, who's been helping out on the wiki a bit).

Nyeh, just reminding everyone since you all seem particularly fond of planning ahead. Way ahead.

I don't get impatient or angry at things I know can - and should - be taken slowly and steadily.

[Multiversal Venn-Copard]

So, in the interests of combating this nonsense, I want to make a puppet specifically for fighting "omniversal giants". I have two options:

1. I could flesh out Excidium Universalis (basically what happens when Excidian mentality is applied to Aeiouian technology: Military Techwank to the the highest degree). This would be sooper seerius, but would likely consist of "We warp planet-destroying explosives directly into your ships while dodging all attacks thanks to precognition. Post losses."
   
   
2. I considered an organization dedicated to stopping, rather than annihilating, multiversal powers wherever they attack. It would be made up of a plethora of supernatural beings and advanced technological things, and would not usually engage in direct warfare, instead preferring espionage, sabotage, and surgical strikes (basically like the Fellowship of the Ring of the multiverse). This would be very silly, and the posts would be more creative.

If the "Omniversal Giants" attack again, I can join in the fun with Post-Reconstruction Aeiouia (Which is Aeiouia after it accomplishes its Secret-In-Character goals, assuming the best possible "Good Ending" in this particular case). Which would probably hate them with a burning passion, and join the organization that you mentioned in a heartbeat... Though I would mainly do it just for the fact that I could bring in Sane Iris, and have her complain about and yell at the multiversal destroyers ad-nauseam.

Aeiouia: The reason I was sort of hesitant to interact with Aeiouia and Fylmyria back in Entropy and Order was that they seemed to be a major diversion from the relatively serious conflict happening in that first universe - the colossal but actually somewhat organized spacefleets fighting using "conventional" tech, and not omniversal worms, soda, or memes. Interestingly, Devourer didn't interact with them at all.

EP: Excidium Universalis would only work if there was some way to theoretically stop or destroy them; I'd much rather you go for the second option and just write it up in a more serious way to fit with the canon we've established. I mean, the VCMR has a couple counters to precognition but they'd fall under the domain of "esoteric superweapons" that we'd rather not deploy.

[Blakullar]

Well, don't yell at me about that. Fren's busy with work/study, and I have no clue where everyone else has fucked off to (apart from Auroya, who's been helping out on the wiki a bit).

Nyeh, just reminding everyone since you all seem particularly fond of planning ahead. Way ahead.

I don't get impatient or angry at things I know can - and should - be taken slowly and steadily.

Yes, but surely even you'd agree that a month without a post is a little bit too 'slow and steady'?

[Gigaverse]

Nyeh, just reminding everyone since you all seem particularly fond of planning ahead. Way ahead.

I don't get impatient or angry at things I know can - and should - be taken slowly and steadily.

Yes, but surely even you'd agree that a month without a post is a little bit too 'slow and steady'?

Not yet. Almost there. We just have to wait for the thread's first anniversary.

[New Frenco Empire]

I mean, money isn't a problem, but I imagine it would be if you vegan genociding all the taxpayers.

Not even the point of the original comment, though. Aterria took that in a different direction. The point is that FT Frenco is just chilling, being all complacent and stuff about not waging large-scale war for almost a century while everyone else fights across the galaxy. Like America in the early years of the world wars. We need a Lusitania or Zimmerman Note or Pearl Harbor to throw us back in the mess.

Interesting. I envisioned a scenario similar to the present one, where there would be a period of intense hostility (but no properly massive-scale fighting) between FTMekh and the PTI.

The Mechanocratic narrative would focus on Trotskaya's struggles with chronic existential crisis-related depression, believing herself to have failed her people through her inability to unite humanity under the Mechanocratic ideology post-Contact because of the PTI. Making things worse, someone very special to her defected from the Mechanocracy to the PTI, believing that she was leading Mankind in the wrong direction by splitting the Mechanocracy and the PTI apart.

I did too, but I figured that'd just be boring old PMT Frencoverse but in SPACE. I figured a more interesting backstory would be that FTMek splits from the PTI shortly after the Utannic Crusades simply because the PTI wished to stop fighting; they wanted a lasting peace. Humanity was the dominant force in the galaxy at this point, and they absorbed all the territory and resources they could ever need in the wars. The Nexus was gone, and the contact proved that the Frenks and the Mecharussians could work together for prosperity. No ideology was worth the trouble in a populated galaxy. I imagine that Trotskaya's group disagrees (to say the least) and causes a violent schism, heading off to fight in the barren corners of the Milky Way while the PTI continues to be isolationist.

Also, I finally got to your Q&A questions. Check them out, if you want.

[Excidium Planetis]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=exfactbooks

Ah, thanks.

For Vistora:

It's just enough like paradise to mess up Omniversal Torturers' plans. However, it is actually a highly dangerous anomaly that was placed into Containment by the Eldritch creatures behind Multiversal The Cooperative Technocracy of Ashkera due to its habit of partially-overwriting personalities. (As in, literally walled off from the Multiverse.) It contaminates everything it touches, to the point that you can used mined metal from there (although you'll slowly lose workers to the anomalous brainwashing effect) as a weapon against evil "deities."

And whereas most Omniversal Dominators destroy everything in their path, you can't really fight the Supreme Zone by ... fighting it. You can only contain it, wall it off, and slow it down.

Still an Omniversal Dominator. Just one that seeps through cracks and mindf***s people.

If the "Omniversal Giants" attack again, I can join in the fun with Post-Reconstruction Aeiouia (Which is Aeiouia after it accomplishes its Secret-In-Character goals, assuming the best possible "Good Ending" in this particular case). Which would probably hate them with a burning passion, and join the organization that you mentioned in a heartbeat... Though I would mainly do it just for the fact that I could bring in Sane Iris, and have her complain about and yell at the multiversal destroyers ad-nauseam.

Aeiouia: The reason I was sort of hesitant to interact with Aeiouia and Fylmyria back in Entropy and Order was that they seemed to be a major diversion from the relatively serious conflict happening in that first universe - the colossal but actually somewhat organized spacefleets fighting using "conventional" tech, and not omniversal worms, soda, or memes. Interestingly, Devourer didn't interact with them at all.

EP: Excidium Universalis would only work if there was some way to theoretically stop or destroy them; I'd much rather you go for the second option and just write it up in a more serious way to fit with the canon we've established. I mean, the VCMR has a couple counters to precognition but they'd fall under the domain of "esoteric superweapons" that we'd rather not deploy.

Aeiouia: This organization would be its own "nation", not really an organization that nations joined. Iris could possibly be an honorary member though.

VCMR: Is there a way to theoretically stop and destroy you? Or stop and destroy the Ravagery? Besides, you have precognition too.

The other organization would not be very serious. It would likely not talk about jellyfish during diplomatic meetings, but it would have roughly the same level of "we are taking our job very seriously" as the Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Blakullar]

Interesting. I envisioned a scenario similar to the present one, where there would be a period of intense hostility (but no properly massive-scale fighting) between FTMekh and the PTI.

The Mechanocratic narrative would focus on Trotskaya's struggles with chronic existential crisis-related depression, believing herself to have failed her people through her inability to unite humanity under the Mechanocratic ideology post-Contact because of the PTI. Making things worse, someone very special to her defected from the Mechanocracy to the PTI, believing that she was leading Mankind in the wrong direction by splitting the Mechanocracy and the PTI apart.

I did too, but I figured that'd just be boring old PMT Frencoverse but in SPACE. I figured a more interesting backstory would be that FTMek splits from the PTI shortly after the Utannic Crusades simply because the PTI wished to stop fighting; they wanted a lasting peace. Humanity was the dominant force in the galaxy at this point, and they absorbed all the territory and resources they could ever need in the wars. The Nexus was gone, and the contact proved that the Frenks and the Mecharussians could work together for prosperity. No ideology was worth the trouble in a populated galaxy. I imagine that Trotskaya's group disagrees (to say the least) and causes a violent schism, heading off to fight in the barren corners of the Milky Way while the PTI continues to be isolationist.

Also, I finally got to your Q&A questions. Check them out, if you want.

The schism I write about (and it's actually called 'the Schism') is a galactic-scale civil war taking place in the late-2200s, based loosely from the Horus Heresy in Warhammer 40,000. Trotskaya, in an especially-nasty episode of paranoia-infused rage, becomes totally convinced that the Frenks are leading humanity to degeneration. It also doesn't help that her second-in-command, who is a vicious racist that believes all non-Machine Race beings should be wiped out, egged her on to split away from the PTI. In the last gargantuan battle between the PTI and the Mechanocracy over Earth, Trotskaya - her consciousness temporarily transferred to a Chernabog world-eater - destroys the planet purely out of spite, before pulling her fleets back. It's this act in particular that causes the Cabal to break away from the Mechanocracy of Mankind and rejoin the PTI, who now has to find a new homeworld (Mars?).

That might be an interesting one to RP after Contact...