Raiders

[Zane Winchester Scott]

Says the most biased guy in the room. Also, the members of DEN that I have met are very unkind to other DEN members that do not support their every decision or idea.

If you are implying that I am DEN, you're wrong. I am founder of Imperisl Confederacy, and I assure you, I have no puppets within DEN or any other raider army.

I know. I looked at the region and it says something like we raid and we are proud. This isn't DEN, this is raiders as a whole.

[The Pacifican Islands]

Even though I am a RPer, gameplay is just a part of NS. Sure you and I don't like them, but all you can do is password and non exec Delegate.

[Zane Winchester Scott]

Exactly my point! Max needs to either add a tutorial to running/creating a region or remove raiding in the first place!
An even better idea came to mind. The founder has to endorse the WA delegate for the WA delegate to be elected.

Which would work great, if most raided regions weren't founderless.

The poster that said this is a discussion for the GP forum is also correct.

Any founderless region then elects a new founder.

[Zane Winchester Scott]

Even though I am a RPer, gameplay is just a part of NS. Sure you and I don't like them, but all you can do is password and non exec Delegate.

Or tell Max Barry. But to do that we need to get his attention. This is our only way to get his attention at the moment.

[Common Territories]

How about yall bring this Gameplay thread to Gameplay and leave the IC forum to IC roleplay? Kinda getting old how you keep making threads here to complain about raiders...

This is the game as a whole. Portal to the Multiverse is purely RP. Also, if you didn't like this discussion you could just leave.

No, you could leave or wait until Modification arrives to close this thread. This is an IC RP forum, not Gameplay or P2TM. This forum has different rules that state this is an In Character and Out Of Character forum for RP only. I don't know where Gameplay people keep getting the sense this is the forum to post about this kind of thing, but this is a RolePlay forum, not Gameplay matters.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Which would work great, if most raided regions weren't founderless.

The poster that said this is a discussion for the GP forum is also correct.

Any founderless region then elects a new founder.

And then raiders exploit the mechanism to make one of their own the founder, and then what?

Any system, like the delegate system, that can be used my true natives, can also be used by raiders ranging from obvious to well-disguised.

[New Axiom]

Which would work great, if most raided regions weren't founderless.

The poster that said this is a discussion for the GP forum is also correct.

Any founderless region then elects a new founder.

You can't elect a new founder. You can elect a delegate, which is how raiding works, basically.

[Founder Thoth]

i agree

[Federal Union of America]

Which would work great, if most raided regions weren't founderless.

The poster that said this is a discussion for the GP forum is also correct.

Any founderless region then elects a new founder.

impossible, because by definition the Founder founded the region. To 'elect another founder', you'd have to have a poll-based election for who should found a completely new region, and then have everyone evacuate the main region.

[We Are Not the NSA]

I Agree,DEN has raided my region (https://www.nationstates.net/region=continent_of_demios),renamed,changed flags and ejected (and some banned) the countries previously occupying it.There should be some kind off Raid-lock or permission system.

If you want to clean up your region quickly, take a look at this Dispatch

[The Royally United Provinces]

This is the game as a whole. Portal to the Multiverse is purely RP. Also, if you didn't like this discussion you could just leave.

No, you could leave or wait until Modification arrives to close this thread. This is an IC RP forum, not Gameplay or P2TM. This forum has different rules that state this is an In Character and Out Of Character forum for RP only. I don't know where Gameplay people keep getting the sense this is the forum to post about this kind of thing, but this is a RolePlay forum, not Gameplay matters.

Common Territories is right. International Incidents, P2TM, and NationStates are RP. This needs to be in gameplay

[Zane Winchester Scott]

Any founderless region then elects a new founder.

You can't elect a new founder. You can elect a delegate, which is how raiding works, basically.

I know. It is an idea for the future.
Also, to the people here that say this is OOC/IC only, I don't care. It's too late already.

[Blorbs]

No, they are actually perfectly fine. As long as you have an executive founder who is active then your region is perfectly safe even if everyone gets ejected. If not, and you see raiders entering, if the current delegate is active they can password protect the region and make it so all of their puppets and things cant get in and the few who are left have no power.

[New Axiom]

You can't elect a new founder. You can elect a delegate, which is how raiding works, basically.

I know. It is an idea for the future.
Also, to the people here that say this is OOC/IC only, I don't care. It's too late already.

It's a terrible idea. The delegate, in absence of the founder, essentially holds the same power as the original founder.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

You can't elect a new founder. You can elect a delegate, which is how raiding works, basically.

I know. It is an idea for the future.
Also, to the people here that say this is OOC/IC only, I don't care. It's too late already.

An idea that, like a hundred others, has been brought up and rejected by site staff many a time, for the exact reason I mentioned above, among others.

[Lady Scylla]

Even though I am a RPer, gameplay is just a part of NS. Sure you and I don't like them, but all you can do is password and non exec Delegate.

Or tell Max Barry. But to do that we need to get his attention. This is our only way to get his attention at the moment.

He doesn't care. Things have been added to help combat against the Raiders preying on RP regions, it's been a complaint for years now. Don't expect much of anything else outside of bitching from both sides and half-assed solutions.

[Zane Winchester Scott]

I Agree,DEN has raided my region (https://www.nationstates.net/region=continent_of_demios),renamed,changed flags and ejected (and some banned) the countries previously occupying it.There should be some kind off Raid-lock or permission system.

If you want to clean up your region quickly, take a look at this Dispatch

This takes time. This also is completely pointless from a gameplay aspect, since it can be reversed. Until the 12 hours and however long it takes to change it back are up, you don't have your region. You have a DEN region. All it does is make people waste their time. Including you. So why do you even do it in the first place?

[New Axiom]

Or tell Max Barry. But to do that we need to get his attention. This is our only way to get his attention at the moment.

He doesn't care. Things have been added to help combat against the Raiders preying on RP regions, it's been a complaint for years now. Don't expect much of anything else outside of bitching from both sides and half-assed solutions.

He said himself he thinks the practice is hilarious. Do you not keep up with the news?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

If you want to clean up your region quickly, take a look at this Dispatch

I have something to tell you. This takes time. This also is completely pointless from a gameplay aspect, since it can be reversed. Until the 12 hours and however long it takes to change it back are up, you don't have your region. You have a DEN region. All it does is make people waste their time. So why do you even do it in the first place?

Questioning our morals has yet to stop anyone I know of from raiding. I would suggest your time is better used elsewhere.

[Zane Winchester Scott]

I have something to tell you. This takes time. This also is completely pointless from a gameplay aspect, since it can be reversed. Until the 12 hours and however long it takes to change it back are up, you don't have your region. You have a DEN region. All it does is make people waste their time. So why do you even do it in the first place?

Questioning our morals has yet to stop anyone I know of from raiding. I would suggest your time is better used elsewhere.

I find morals useless and completely obsolete. Statistics are correct and undeniable.

[We Are Not the NSA]

If you want to clean up your region quickly, take a look at this Dispatch

I have something to tell you. This takes time. This also is completely pointless from a gameplay aspect, since it can be reversed. Until the 12 hours and however long it takes to change it back are up, you don't have your region. You have a DEN region. All it does is make people waste their time. So why do you even do it in the first place?

Did you even read the dispatch? I explain that they can't do anything until the next update, and I explain how to take back your region. When I say "clean up your region quickly" I am referring to after it is taken back.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Questioning our morals has yet to stop anyone I know of from raiding. I would suggest your time is better used elsewhere.

I find morals useless and completely obsolete. Statistics are correct and undeniable.

Then why are you questioning why we do it?

[Zane Winchester Scott]

I have something to tell you. This takes time. This also is completely pointless from a gameplay aspect, since it can be reversed. Until the 12 hours and however long it takes to change it back are up, you don't have your region. You have a DEN region. All it does is make people waste their time. So why do you even do it in the first place?

Did you even read the dispatch? I explain that they can't do anything until the next update, and I explain how to take back your region. When I say "clean up your region quickly" I am referring to after it is taken back.

Getting it taken back takes 12 hours. Now, answer my question. It wastes everyone's time. It has no point in the end, so why even take the time out of your day to do it?

[Lady Scylla]

He doesn't care. Things have been added to help combat against the Raiders preying on RP regions, it's been a complaint for years now. Don't expect much of anything else outside of bitching from both sides and half-assed solutions.

He said himself he thinks the practice is hilarious. Do you not keep up with the news?

Don't see how that disagrees with anything I just said. Password protect the RP region, remove delegate powers. You're not getting any help from Max or Moderation, the latter is practically useless, all the good mods (Outside of Reppy and Euroslavia) have left or been "resigned". The R/D game is here to stay, as it has been continuously pointed out every time this discussion happens. It always come down to an RPer vs RDer bitchfest with little solution outside of what has been said over and over again about PW protecting regions. I don't like the R/D game either, it can sod off for all I care but there's not much arguing against it. Max doesn't respond well to criticism anyhow. See "Resign"

[We Are Not the NSA]

Did you even read the dispatch? I explain that they can't do anything until the next update, and I explain how to take back your region. When I say "clean up your region quickly" I am referring to after it is taken back.

Getting it taken back takes 12 hours. Now, answer my question. It wastes everyone's time. It has no point in the end, so why even take the time out of your day to do it?

Wait, are you asking about my dispatch or raiding?