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Postby Roosevetania » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:45 am

Why do we allow raiders? They must be stopped!
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Postby Roosevetania » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:45 am

I agree
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MelonKerballand
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Postby MelonKerballand » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:41 am

I Agree,DEN has raided my region (https://www.nationstates.net/region=continent_of_demios),renamed,changed flags and ejected (and some banned) the countries previously occupying it.There should be some kind off Raid-lock or permission system.

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Postby Nickel Empire » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:44 am

MelonKerballand wrote:I Agree,DEN has raided my region (https://www.nationstates.net/region=continent_of_demios),renamed,changed flags and ejected (and some banned) the countries previously occupying it.There should be some kind off Raid-lock or permission system.

There is a raider-lock, password protect the region and make the regional delegate non-executive.
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Postby Global Defence Force » Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:46 am

Roosevetania wrote:I agree

It's your topic you know.

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Postby Siniarus » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:34 am

Global Defence Force wrote:
Roosevetania wrote:I agree

It's your topic you know.

They forgot to switch to their puppet, probably.
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Postby Icrum » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:36 am

Siniarus wrote:
Global Defence Force wrote:It's your topic you know.

They forgot to switch to their puppet, probably.

Maybe it's the Wannabe Mod trying to garnish support again.
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Postby Federal Union of America » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:39 am

I don't agree that the gameside invasio ngame should be ended, but I think the system needs to be better. I propsoe that raiders should only be able to raid regions that are not marked with some form of **NO GAMEPLAY** or ***NOT A GAMEPLAY REGION*** or something, and that any raiders found participating in raids in non-gameplay regions receive punishment similar to the warning/ban/ban/ban/DOS system used by Mods on the forums.

Just my idea, it'll probably never be implemented, but still.

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Postby BPSR » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:42 am

MelonKerballand wrote:I Agree,DEN has raided my region (https://www.nationstates.net/region=continent_of_demios),renamed,changed flags and ejected (and some banned) the countries previously occupying it.There should be some kind off Raid-lock or permission system.

Next time don't set your WA delegate to Executive. That's like turning in yourself to the police.
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Postby New Axiom » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:44 am

All of you who think raiders should be banned clearly don't know how to run a region. YOU all should be banned for being idiots.

Raiding is easily prevented. Raiding is the process of moving in, endorsing one nation, becoming delegates, and moving from there. The founder of the region can modify the WA delegates position to be non executive, and have no authority over anything but the WA. So, raiding is EASILY preventable. And, even if a region was invaded, provided that region had a founder, the raid will not last long anyway.

So there. Anyone who thinks raiding should be banned is childish. Besides, NationStates is just a text based politics game.... Get over it :D
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Postby BPSR » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:44 am

Raids make this game what it is. If we were to ban them then there will be no fun. Plus, it's also censorship.
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Postby BPSR » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:45 am

New Axiom wrote:All of you who think raiders should be banned clearly don't know how to run a region. YOU all should be banned for being idiots.

Raiding is easily prevented. Raiding is the process of moving in, endorsing one nation, becoming delegates, and moving from there. The founder of the region can modify the WA delegates position to be non executive, and have no authority over anything but the WA. So, raiding is EASILY preventable. And, even if a region was invaded, provided that region had a founder, the raid will not last long anyway.

So there. Anyone who thinks raiding should be banned is childish. Besides, NationStates is just a text based politics game.... Get over it :D

I agree. Suppressing it is also censorship as well.
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Political Compass:
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Results compared to UK parties of 2015
3 Axis Political Test:
75% Social freedom
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Postby Basso-Estena » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:48 am

Ban them. Them ruining a region of classmates made most of them quit the game.
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New Axiom
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Postby New Axiom » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:50 am

Basso-Estena wrote:Ban them. Them ruining a region of classmates made most of them quit the game.


That's hilarious! :rofl:
My region almost did that, but better targets presented themselves.
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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Postby Federal Union of America » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:51 am

Basso-Estena wrote:Ban them. Them ruining a region of classmates made most of them quit the game.


Just put your region on a password lock and TG the password to your classmates, or strip the WA Delegate of executive control. Problem solved.

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Zane Winchester Scott
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Postby Zane Winchester Scott » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:53 am

Well this can be solved with the press of a button. Make WA non-executive. I also hate DEN, but it is because they are a ton of jerks that call the slightest double post (For example, if you forgot something in the last post), they go ballistic. They spam more than you do to point out your spamming. They also scream at you for doing something they don't like. It is a terrible region. Truthfully I recommend Auralia as a region. They have way more stuff than discussion over hating what other people are discussing and raiding. DEN doesn't even have a map of the region. That's pathetic. Also, Basso-Estena, you should have told whoever made it to use a password protection. Max Barry really needs to get rid of this feature, since it is extremely annoying. He probably is trying to make this realistic, but for raiding to be realistic, you need an actual battling system. The game is a bit ruined when your paradise region is turned into DEN invaded blah blah blah.
That or there should be some sort of tutorial with making a region or running a nation. It could get annoying, but there can always be a skip button.
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Postby New Axiom » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:55 am

Zane Winchester Scott wrote:Well this can be solved with the press of a button. Make WA non-executive. I also hate DEN, but it is because they are a ton of jerks that call the slightest double post (For example, if you forgot something in the last post), they go ballistic. They spam more than you do to point out your spamming. They also scream at you for doing something they don't like. It is a terrible region. Truthfully I recommend Auralia as a region. They have way more stuff than discussion over hating what other people are discussing and raiding. DEN doesn't even have a map of the region. That's pathetic. Also, Basso-Estena, you should have told whoever made it to use a password protection. Max Barry really needs to get rid of this feature, since it is extremely annoying. He probably is trying to make this realistic, but for raiding to be realistic, you need an actual battling system. The game is a bit ruined when your paradise region is turned into DEN invaded blah blah blah.


I'm confused, why are you upset? You just explained the solution in your first sentence.

Besides, my region voted for no map, so we don't have a map.
Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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Postby Basso-Estena » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:57 am

Zane Winchester Scott wrote:Well this can be solved with the press of a button. Make WA non-executive. I also hate DEN, but it is because they are a ton of jerks that call the slightest double post (For example, if you forgot something in the last post), they go ballistic. They spam more than you do to point out your spamming. They also scream at you for doing something they don't like. It is a terrible region. Truthfully I recommend Auralia as a region. They have way more stuff than discussion over hating what other people are discussing and raiding. DEN doesn't even have a map of the region. That's pathetic. Also, Basso-Estena, you should have told whoever made it to use a password protection. Max Barry really needs to get rid of this feature, since it is extremely annoying. He probably is trying to make this realistic, but for raiding to be realistic, you need an actual battling system. The game is a bit ruined when your paradise region is turned into DEN invaded blah blah blah.
That or there should be some sort of tutorial with making a region or running a nation. It could get annoying, but there can always be a skip button.

We were too new to the game to know.
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Postby Zane Winchester Scott » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:58 am

New Axiom wrote:
Zane Winchester Scott wrote:Well this can be solved with the press of a button. Make WA non-executive. I also hate DEN, but it is because they are a ton of jerks that call the slightest double post (For example, if you forgot something in the last post), they go ballistic. They spam more than you do to point out your spamming. They also scream at you for doing something they don't like. It is a terrible region. Truthfully I recommend Auralia as a region. They have way more stuff than discussion over hating what other people are discussing and raiding. DEN doesn't even have a map of the region. That's pathetic. Also, Basso-Estena, you should have told whoever made it to use a password protection. Max Barry really needs to get rid of this feature, since it is extremely annoying. He probably is trying to make this realistic, but for raiding to be realistic, you need an actual battling system. The game is a bit ruined when your paradise region is turned into DEN invaded blah blah blah.


I'm confused, why are you upset? You just explained the solution in your first sentence.

Besides, my region voted for no map, so we don't have a map.

Says the most biased guy in the room. Also, the members of DEN that I have met are very unkind to other DEN members that do not support their every decision or idea.
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Postby Common Territories » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:59 am

How about yall bring this Gameplay thread to Gameplay and leave the IC forum to IC roleplay? Kinda getting old how you keep making threads here to complain about raiders...

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Postby Zane Winchester Scott » Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:59 am

Basso-Estena wrote:
Zane Winchester Scott wrote:Well this can be solved with the press of a button. Make WA non-executive. I also hate DEN, but it is because they are a ton of jerks that call the slightest double post (For example, if you forgot something in the last post), they go ballistic. They spam more than you do to point out your spamming. They also scream at you for doing something they don't like. It is a terrible region. Truthfully I recommend Auralia as a region. They have way more stuff than discussion over hating what other people are discussing and raiding. DEN doesn't even have a map of the region. That's pathetic. Also, Basso-Estena, you should have told whoever made it to use a password protection. Max Barry really needs to get rid of this feature, since it is extremely annoying. He probably is trying to make this realistic, but for raiding to be realistic, you need an actual battling system. The game is a bit ruined when your paradise region is turned into DEN invaded blah blah blah.
That or there should be some sort of tutorial with making a region or running a nation. It could get annoying, but there can always be a skip button.

We were too new to the game to know.

Exactly my point! Max needs to either add a tutorial to running/creating a region or remove raiding in the first place!
An even better idea came to mind. The founder has to endorse the WA delegate for the WA delegate to be elected.
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Postby New Axiom » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:01 pm

Zane Winchester Scott wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
I'm confused, why are you upset? You just explained the solution in your first sentence.

Besides, my region voted for no map, so we don't have a map.

Says the most biased guy in the room. Also, the members of DEN that I have met are very unkind to other DEN members that do not support their every decision or idea.


If you are implying that I am DEN, you're wrong. I am founder of Imperial Confederacy, and I assure you, I have no puppets within DEN or any other raider army.
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Everyone has a plan until the New Axiom Imperial Army comes. Then everyone is just like, omigawd. Run.

My favorite user quotes:
Zakuvia wrote:If you aren't imagining a chain gang of adorable old retirees building a wall with Fixodent and using their Hoverounds as tow trucks then you're not the NS I remember.


Ethel mermania wrote:
New Axiom wrote:
You mean Black Friday as in the Apex Preadator of Capatalism?

Victory is measured in gi Joe dolls and easy bake ovens. It was not old age that killed castro, it was nintendo.


Pringles or Lays Stax? I prefer the Lays.

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Postby Zane Winchester Scott » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:01 pm

Common Territories wrote:How about yall bring this Gameplay thread to Gameplay and leave the IC forum to IC roleplay? Kinda getting old how you keep making threads here to complain about raiders...

This is the game as a whole. Portal to the Multiverse is purely RP. Also, if you didn't like this discussion you could just leave.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:03 pm

Zane Winchester Scott wrote:
Basso-Estena wrote:We were too new to the game to know.

Exactly my point! Max needs to either add a tutorial to running/creating a region or remove raiding in the first place!
An even better idea came to mind. The founder has to endorse the WA delegate for the WA delegate to be elected.


Which would work great, if most raided regions weren't founderless.

The poster that said this is a discussion for the GP forum is also correct.
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