To Change a Nation. (MT - OOC - Planning/Signup/Brainstorm)

[Vedrenheim]

Comprende?

Comprende, thanks

No problem, what does everyone else think of this?

[Neo Prutenia]

One thread for all RP will sufice. People need only to bold in a sub headline, so that no misunderstandings happen. For example:

- Hanover, Neo Prutenia, Radio Niedersachsen
Now

The countries greatest Radio station reports now life about the coup in Novistrai, via wireless connection from a Prut traveller in that country, Hans Peter. It' seeems that...

- Fortress city Hamburg, Port of Hamburg
At the same time

Fishing ships were contacted by a fleeing Vedrenheimer vessel this afternoon. It was a military vessel which sought to buy some supplies, as they couldn't return to their home country in time. They said...

This way you can basically post about many things happening at the same time with one post, and make it still readable and easy to reference for the rest of us. Especially if you take into account that Iotor and me will begin the RP in a more passive and reactive position than Novistrai and you. We can post our reactions, government decisions, public opinions, etc, while you fight it out on your streets - and later, hen the war is in full motion this kind of posting will be a necessity. You need to post somewhere what all the politicians and generals at home do, how the spies are progressing, news from the front, public support/opinion about the war and, of course, how the army maneuvering around.

[Vedrenheim]

Yeah, that should work too. I'll put the thread up after I get home from school today, which should be about 11pm your time NP. I know I promised I would put up the thread on Sunday, but I just had to make sure that this ide was clear with everyone beforehand.

[Atom Anarchists]

It's good.

[Neo Prutenia]

So, are we going to start this any time soon?

[Vedrenheim]

So, are we going to start this any time soon?

Ja, there's just alot of RL stuff getting in the way. My constant need to push myself in getting stronger is really forcing me to reschedule my time around working out, and then I also have to settle my recruitment with the Army. And then I have a big English report due during this week that could change my grade for the better, and I really need to get on that.

Maybe you or one of the other countries could start the RP up?

[Neo Prutenia]

Nah, we'll wait. You should start it. Good luck with your report then. I hope we'll have this up and running in a few days.

[Vedrenheim]

Nah, we'll wait. You should start it. Good luck with your report then. I hope we'll have this up and running in a few days.

If all goes well, I should have my report done sometime tomorrow.

[Danneland]

It is with utmost joy that I read that you have decided to overthrow the democratic liberal filth and rid them of your country in favor of tradition and royalty.
This proves to be a very interesting RP and I humbly wonder if there would be a place for the Divined Kingdom of Danneland to meddle in these affairs.

As recently stepped back into the international arena The Kingdom of Danneland under God is very keen on supporting all like minded nations in the world. Thus a coup placing imperialists in the seat of power will be good news for the kingdom. Depending on the nations involved in the dramatic events it might decide to openly or secretly support the totalitarian imperialist government against the communists and liberals and understand it's need to expand it's territory.

[Neo Prutenia]

It is with utmost joy that I read that you have decided to overthrow the democratic liberal filth and rid them of your country in favor of tradition and royalty.
This proves to be a very interesting RP and I humbly wonder if there would be a place for the Divined Kingdom of Danneland to meddle in these affairs.

As recently stepped back into the international arena The Kingdom of Danneland under God is very keen on supporting all like minded nations in the world. Thus a coup placing imperialists in the seat of power will be good news for the kingdom. Depending on the nations involved in the dramatic events it might decide to openly or secretly support the totalitarian imperialist government against the communists and liberals and understand it's need to expand it's territory.

Well, not royalty, a military dictatorship will be installed. And aren't you a little bit to big and old to play with us newcomers. Nothing personal, but you could singlehandedly wipe out all of us combined - so where is the fun in that? Or should I correct myself; where is the fun in that for us?

[Danneland]

It is with utmost joy that I read that you have decided to overthrow the democratic liberal filth and rid them of your country in favor of tradition and royalty.
This proves to be a very interesting RP and I humbly wonder if there would be a place for the Divined Kingdom of Danneland to meddle in these affairs.

As recently stepped back into the international arena The Kingdom of Danneland under God is very keen on supporting all like minded nations in the world. Thus a coup placing imperialists in the seat of power will be good news for the kingdom. Depending on the nations involved in the dramatic events it might decide to openly or secretly support the totalitarian imperialist government against the communists and liberals and understand it's need to expand it's territory.

Well, not royalty, a military dictatorship will be installed. And aren't you a little bit to big and old to play with us newcomers. Nothing personal, but you could singlehandedly wipe out all of us combined - so where is the fun in that? Or should I correct myself; where is the fun in that for us?

While not as noble as a Royal Family at the throne, a military dictatorship serves better than a communist disillusion or liberal filth.

And yes, perhaps I could. But as you say, where would the fun be in that? And as always there is a little bit more than just 'wipe everyone out'. It is a matter of securing a stable totalitarian conservative right wing government. And having a larger nation meddle in the affairs is more or less how real life politics works also. But of course, I could restrain my interest to only supporting with resources, arms, munition and money and expertize.

Much like USA did with early Talibans

[Neo Prutenia]

Sounds good; but in the end it's upon Vedrenheim to decide. ANyway, would you support such a government even when it's very belligerent and/or commits atrocities like genocide. It may be that real life politics work that way, but here on NS we have no international Laws which one could break or international relations/opinion which one could offend. I don't intend to fight a battle, or war for this matter, in which I have no chance of winning. Or achieving actually anything.

[Danneland]

Sounds good; but in the end it's upon Vedrenheim to decide. ANyway, would you support such a government even when it's very belligerent and/or commits atrocities like genocide. It may be that real life politics work that way, but here on NS we have no international Laws which one could break or international relations/opinion which one could offend. I don't intend to fight a battle, or war for this matter, in which I have no chance of winning. Or achieving actually anything.

The common man must make sacrifice for the greater good, if that mean he has to throw himself towards a certain death, so be it. My nation does not question the methods of totalitarian states as long as they are not liberal, democratic or communist.
And about waring, well that is up to Vedrenheim to decide I guess.

[Neo Prutenia]

Not liberal, not democratic and not communist? So you only support socialist/fascist societis and dictatorships? And as a matter of fact, both Vedrenheim and Neo Prutenia are militant right wing societies. Well, actually Vedrenheim is as of now centrist. I am rightist, and as right and conservative as it gets. But I'm a democratic/meritocratic republic, while Vedrenheim aims for a stratocratic dictatorship. So shouldn't there be some indecision whom to support. I doubt that all factions within Danneland would support Vedrenheim.

[Danneland]

There is only one faction worthy enough to mention. The Divined and chosen by God King Daniel Rose the 21st.

Danneland is a Feudal Monarchy with the king in the top followed by the noble houses and at the bottom the common man.
We frown upon democracy and governments that heed call to the cries of the common man, they are but pawns in a greater picture.
If some sort of Democracy is to be allowed it better only be the nobles who has a 'vote' . The very idea that the common man is educated and mannered enough to shoulder the responsibilities of a nation is preposterous!
However, the royal family does realize that the world is not as it was in the days of old and have to accept that it is better to support Right Wing Conservative Nations, Dictatorships and the likes rather then alienate everyone. Socialism is the cancer that evolves into Communism my good sir!

[Neo Prutenia]

Dude, or dudette, whatever the gender, this is and OOC thread - stop talking from an in-character perspective and start talking seriously. I'm trying to help you find a place in the future RP and ensure everyone has fun, while the parameters layed down by Vedrenheim and me will be respected. Have you at least read the posts? Or at least throwed a look upon most of them to see what we here talked about?

[Danneland]

Dude, or dudette, whatever the gender, this is and OOC thread - stop talking from an in-character perspective and start talking seriously. I'm trying to help you find a place in the future RP and ensure everyone has fun, while the parameters layed down by Vedrenheim and me will be respected. Have you at least read the posts? Or at least throwed a look upon most of them to see what we here talked about?

Chill.
I'm trying to answer your questions, what better way than to express my stance as it would do in game?

What do you want me to say? Yeah I like genocide lol? Yes I have read through most of the posts and I can't recall that I posted against anyone, but in favor of Pro-Imperialists. And I thought we had reached a consensus as to what kind of role I could play in this affair, supporting Vedrenheim with supplies?
Then you question as to why my nation would do such a thing, and I responded. But to talk 'ooc'. Why? Of the same reason USA support Taliban warriors, they are the least of two evils. A stable totalitarian Dictatorship ensures that the threat of communism stays low.

I hope that answered your questions.

[Neo Prutenia]

I'm chill, I just feel silly when you use IC speech here. Fine then. I just wanted to point out that we already determined that Neo Prutenia "wins" in the end - although, not the way or form this will take. I got the impression that you skipped that part and wanted to give military support to Vedrenheim and Iotor, which would make the fight very one-sided and ridiculous. If you are aware how the war will proceed then it's ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And further, I wanted to know if you will exclusivly support Vedrenheim, or if you might change your mind and support Neo Prutenia instead, somwhwere down the line, when it becomes apparent that it'd the better horse to bet on. I, of course, don't wish to imply how you should rolepaly, but it seems sensible and prudent to me that you should have diplomatic relations to both countries, especially since both are similar.

And one simple request for future posts - no politics. Nobody wants to argue about the merits and flaws of different politicall systems, leave that for IC. I don't like commies either, but there is no need to mention that. Well, I hope we are set then?

[Danneland]

I'm chill, I just feel silly when you use IC speech here. Fine then. I just wanted to point out that we already determined that Neo Prutenia "wins" in the end - although, not the way or form this will take. I got the impression that you skipped that part and wanted to give military support to Vedrenheim and Iotor, which would make the fight very one-sided and ridiculous. If you are aware how the war will proceed then it's ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

And further, I wanted to know if you will exclusivly support Vedrenheim, or if you might change your mind and support Neo Prutenia instead, somwhwere down the line, when it becomes apparent that it'd the better horse to bet on. I, of course, don't wish to imply how you should rolepaly, but it seems sensible and prudent to me that you should have diplomatic relations to both countries, especially since both are similar.

And one simple request for future posts - no politics. Nobody wants to argue about the merits and flaws of different politicall systems, leave that for IC. I don't like commies either, but there is no need to mention that. Well, I hope we are set then?

Now that you mention it ha, from my part it would be fun if two of the Noble Houses which are members of the Chamber Militant (like a security council) supported both sides as a competition, just for sports. Would suit very nicely into my nations mentality and setting.

[Neo Prutenia]

Now that you mention it ha, from my part it would be fun if two of the Noble Houses which are members of the Chamber Militant (like a security council) supported both sides as a competition, just for sports. Would suit very nicely into my nations mentality and setting.

Ah, sounds nice. And don't know for Vedrenheim, but Neo Prutenia still has a Royal family - the von Brandenburgs, so if it helps, one of your nobles might have some obscure lineage tracable to the Prut royal dynasty. I just read your factbook, it seems that culturally you are closer to Vedrenheim, they are swedish, or at least scandinavian based, but economivally/politically somewhat closer to Neo Prutenia.

Anyway, I think that we'd all like to see such a fight and sportsmanship from your nobles. It seems that everybody will have a fight/conflict in his homeland while Vedrenheim and Neo Prutenia duke it out. I belive that this will add greatly to the setting and tone of the RP. What do you think?

[Danneland]

Now that you mention it ha, from my part it would be fun if two of the Noble Houses which are members of the Chamber Militant (like a security council) supported both sides as a competition, just for sports. Would suit very nicely into my nations mentality and setting.

Ah, sounds nice. And don't know for Vedrenheim, but Neo Prutenia still has a Royal family - the von Brandenburgs, so if it helps, one of your nobles might have some obscure lineage tracable to the Prut royal dynasty. I just read your factbook, it seems that culturally you are closer to Vedrenheim, they are swedish, or at least scandinavian based, but economivally/politically somewhat closer to Neo Prutenia.

Anyway, I think that we'd all like to see such a fight and sportsmanship from your nobles. It seems that everybody will have a fight/conflict in his homeland while Vedrenheim and Neo Prutenia duke it out. I belive that this will add greatly to the setting and tone of the RP. What do you think?

Sounds like a date! I'll start writing some background to two Noble Houses Leijonhufvud and Lilliehöök, both members of the Chamber Militant. It would suit if Leijonhufvud (Lion Head) had some lineage back to the Prut Royal Dynasty, perhaps a daughter of the Royal Family married into the Leijonhuf-..

Okay so a few hundred years ago two young nobles, one from House Leijonhufvud and one from House Lilliehöök fell in love with a daughter of the Prut Royal family, she in turn fell in love with the man from Leijonhufvud while her father (king?) insisted on House Lilliehöök. She ignored her fathers wished, persuaded him at last to let her marry the man from Leijonhufvud leaving house Lilliehöök without the wife they rightfully should have and a broken heart resulting in an vendetta that has been passed down from father to son until this day!

Hows you like that for ancient noble drama!?

[Neo Prutenia]

Sounds like a date! I'll start writing some background to two Noble Houses Leijonhufvud and Lilliehöök, both members of the Chamber Militant. It would suit if Leijonhufvud (Lion Head) had some lineage back to the Prut Royal Dynasty, perhaps a daughter of the Royal Family married into the Leijonhuf-..

Okay so a few hundred years ago two young nobles, one from House Leijonhufvud and one from House Lilliehöök fell in love with a daughter of the Prut Royal family, she in turn fell in love with the man from Leijonhufvud while her father (king?) insisted on House Lilliehöök. She ignored her fathers wished, persuaded him at last to let her marry the man from Leijonhufvud leaving house Lilliehöök without the wife they rightfully should have and a broken heart resulting in an vendetta that has been passed down from father to son until this day!

Hows you like that for ancient noble drama!?

So that would explain the feud between the houses, as well as the connection to the von Brandenburg dynasty. Of course, the Leijonhufvud would support Neo Prutenia for sentimental and political reasons, while the Lilliehöök would go for Vedrenheim, just to annoy the Leijonhufvud. Interesting. This further down the line enables us all three to have open diplomatic channels and support of one kind, or the other. Perhaps the shifting luck on the battlefields might influence support, or vice versa.

Yea, I'd love to work with that. In fact, when the " To Change a Nation" IC RP is finished, I'd like to continue a Character RP with you, concerning these two factions and perhaps some Prut siblings who'd try to expand Prut influence and support in your country via their infighting, using the successes during their war to their advantage. If you are interested and willing, of course, to continue such a storyline.

[Danneland]

So that would explain the feud between the houses, as well as the connection to the von Brandenburg dynasty. Of course, the Leijonhufvud would support Neo Prutenia for sentimental and political reasons, while the Lilliehöök would go for Vedrenheim, just to annoy the Leijonhufvud. Interesting. This further down the line enables us all three to have open diplomatic channels and support of one kind, or the other. Perhaps the shifting luck on the battlefields might influence support, or vice versa.

Yea, I'd love to work with that. In fact, when the " To Change a Nation" IC RP is finished, I'd like to continue a Character RP with you, concerning these two factions and perhaps some Prut siblings who'd try to expand Prut influence and support in your country via their infighting, using the successes during their war to their advantage. If you are interested and willing, of course, to continue such a storyline.

Yeah this could evolve into a real piece of RP history, that kind of continual story blends perfectly with my nations setting, all the Noble Houses fight amongst themselves for The Roses Favor more or less, some have joined up and some are bitter enemies. Were it not for a long line of stable Rose Kings the whole country might erupt into a civil war (something that might happen in the future.. a few years from now )

[Neo Prutenia]

Yeah this could evolve into a real piece of RP history, that kind of continual story blends perfectly with my nations setting, all the Noble Houses fight amongst themselves for The Roses Favor more or less, some have joined up and some are bitter enemies. Were it not for a long line of stable Rose Kings the whole country might erupt into a civil war (something that might happen in the future.. a few years from now )

Excellent. That gives us plenty of material to work with. As soon as Vedrenheim comes online, I'm sure he'll welcome you in.

[Atom Anarchists]

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