United Socialist Nations [CLOSED|1.0]

[Topkekkia]

I have not been approved as a member, but if i might make a suggestion, we should add a clause about fair treatment of prisoners during times of war.

You'll probably be accepted once Kheistan or Grande Anjouan comes back. Also, I might create a document on Google Docs or something so we can collaborate on a charter or something. That seems more efficient than waiting for hours on end for people to reply.

[Ligaogiv]

I have not been approved as a member, but if i might make a suggestion, we should add a clause about fair treatment of prisoners during times of war.

You'll probably be accepted once Kheistan or Grande Anjouan comes back. Also, I might create a document on Google Docs or something so we can collaborate on a charter or something. That seems more efficient than waiting for hours on end for people to reply.

I agree with both of these suggestions. A google doc would be best.

[Topkekkia]

Alright, I've made a document, TG me your email if you're interested in assisting with the drafting. I'll be making some basic guidelines, ie goals, values, and military rules, anyone is free to join in the discussion.

[Malvakia]

OFFICIAL UNITED SOCIALIST ALLIANCE
REGISTRATION FORM

National Info
Nation Name: (The United Socialist Republic of) Malvakia / USR / USRM
Map (if available): N/A
NS Population: 1.236 Billion
RP Population: 130 Trillion

Government Type: (OOC) Civil Rights Love-fest (IC) Left-Wing Utopia
Head of State: Th'adaam Lini
Head of Government: Th'adaam Lini

Military Info
Number of Active and Reserve Troops: 1 Billion
Membership Type (Observer, Full Pledged Member): Full
Nation Tech Era (MT/PMT) PMT (Very close to FT in the sense that we have a warp drive)

Alliance Misc
Do you agree with the Fundamentals and agree to abide to rules?: Yes
Are you a member of any other alliance other than the United Socialist Nations? (Please provide name(s)) Please Check my sig for this
Are you currently engaged in an armed conflict?: Hmmmm not right now but in 2-3 months maybe, Civil wars tend to happen here often for some reason, can't see why.
Are terrorists terrorizing your nation?: Not at the moment no but we'll see.
What is/are the reason(s) on why you are applying for this Alliance? To be a part of a group of like mind Nations

Describe your nations policies toward human rights issues: (LGBT, religious freedom, etc) We're completely cool with all that stuff.

Roleplays Examples Check my Sig

[Kheiastan]

All applicants accepted. Anjouan has still yet to return so I'll be making a new thread at some point, but I'm busy with Regional elections and IRL stuff so it might be awhile. Ill entrust the admin account to someone else so they can work on it too.

[Topkekkia]

The other night Ligaogiv and I (Big thanks for the help, by the way) worked on a charter for the USN. I personally believe that it isn't missing anything, but I feel I should present it here for review before anything gets made official. If you have any questions/comments/concerns, please do say so.

THE CHARTER OF THE UNITED SOCIALIST NATIONS
Preamble: On this document
1. This is the Charter of the United Socialist Nations (herein referred to the USN).
2. This is to be used as an official document outlining the rights, privileges and responsibilities of both the USN and its member nations.
3. This charter is able to be amended with a majority vote.
Section 1: Reasons for the USN’s Existence
1. We hold the truths to be self-evident and correct that all sentient beings are to be treated equally, regardless of species, race, nationality, creed, class, gender, sexuality or any other factors.
1.1“Sentient” shall be defined as any species with the ability to rationally think, to grasp abstract concepts and to develop and profess theory of mind and freedom of thought.
2. We wish to defend the rights of all sentient beings, and allow for quality of life through injustice.
3. We also declare that the world is full of injustice and strife, which threaten these truths and their relevance to our world.
4. We, as the rational-minded populations of our world, decree that an organisation is needed to protect rights and lives.
Section 2: Goals of the USN
1. To spread democracy and equality throughout the world, by force if needed.
1.1. To support and defend those whose populations are in need of assistance, and counter those who wish to oppress them.
1.2. To bring down the class barriers which are used to divide, and put the despots and rulers into their place.
1.3. To allow all sentient beings a free and equal world with all rights to be awarded to them.
2. To vanquish those who threaten democracy.
2.1. To vow vengeance on those who wish to remove rights from others.
2.2. To defeat entirely those whose aim is to rule unopposed.
2.3. To protect the people whose lives are affected by these despots’ rules.
2.4. To liberate the workers of the world from their oppressors and to not rest until the oppressors have received justice for their crimes.
3. To encourage and support the growth of socialism across the globe.
3.1. To lend economic and/or military aid to socialist nations in need
3.2. To lend military aid to any groups fighting for the ideals of socialism within their own nations.
3.3. To assist growing or new Socialist nations in their path to equality and liberation.
3.4. To spread our ideology to groups already fighting for freedom, and to assist them by any means.
3.4.1. This includes groups fighting from any oppressive influence, be they cultures, nations, races, species, or any group fighting for freedom.
3.4.1.1. These groups shall then be defended by the USN upon gaining their independence for as long as they uphold our values or profess similar ones which are compatible with those aims covered in Section 1.
3.4.1.2. While defence of these nations must be employed in order to stave off opportunistic attackers, national sovereignty must be respected, and no unlawful military, civilian, economic, religious or other institutions must be set up within the country in question.
3.4.2. This does not include groups who employ unnecessary violence as common practice.
3.4.2.1. “Unnecessary Violence” shall be defined as any violence which in itself oppresses others or violates international law.
3.4.2.2. This may be overturned if either of the following occurs:
3.4.2.2.1. The nation appeals to the USN and a vote reveals support for this group amongst USN members only.
3.4.2.2.2. It can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that the violence was within the bounds of international law.
3.4.2.2.3. It can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that the group in question was either forced to use unnecessary violence or that the unnecessary violence was only against proven oppressors.
Section 3: Military Guidelines by Which the USN Shall Operate
1. Civilian populations shall not be harmed during USN operations unless the positive results of these actions strongly outweigh the negative results.
1.1. Civilians may be attacked if it can be established beyond a reasonable doubt that enemy forces are present within the civilian population.
1.2. Civilians may also be attacked if it can be established beyond a reasonable doubt that they are working willingly towards supporting enemy forces.
2. Nuclear weapons shall not be used unless the positive results of such actions outweigh the negatives.
2.1. Recognizing that use of nuclear weapons may likely result in use of nuclear weapons on allied nations, the USN will refrain from using nuclear weapons unless deemed absolutely necessary.
2.1.1. “Absolutely necessary” shall be defined as the point at which all other options have been exhausted and use of nuclear weapons becomes the only choice available.
3. Biological weapons shall not be used.
3.1. Recognizing the capacity of biological weapons to harm innocents and allied nations, the USN will not use biological weapons at any time.
Section 4: Leadership of the USN
1. Every three months, a president shall be elected from the member nations of the USN. This president shall represent the USN in diplomatic situations.
1.1. The President’s responsibilities include the following:
1.1.1 Representing USN interests in the international community.
1.1.2. Protecting the reputation of the USN and its member countries in the international community.
1.1.3. Signing and approving all passed declarations and bills made by the USN.
1.1.4. Being the public face of the USN.
1.2. The President of the USN is able to be removed from power if one of the following conditions is met:
1.2.1. The President violates the national sovereignty of a USN member state.
1.2.1.1. This does NOT include forcing a nation to comply with USN regulations as set down in this charter.
1.3. The President ejects a nation from the USN without any reason.
1.4. The President is overthrown with a majority vote.
2. In addition to the president, there shall be a Grand Allied Commander elected from the member nations who leads all USN sanctioned military operations.
2.1. The Grand Allied Commander (Hereafter referred to as the GAC)’s responsibilities include the following:
2.1.1. Devising strategies for the militaries of the USN.
2.1.2. Leading military operations in the name of the USN.
2.1.3. Providing military support to those fighting for the goals defined in Section 1.
2.1.4. Ensuring all nations comply with the guidelines enumerated in Section 3.
2.2. The GAC may be removed from office if any of the following occur:
2.2.1. The GAC is removed with a majority vote.
2.2.2. The GAC fails to accomplish their duties listed in 2.2.
2.2.3. The GAC violates the sovereignty of a member nation.

[Sharko Federation]

All are accepted.

Please note, I am Grande Anjouan (he was my other nation) but i have rediscovered my old nation so I shall be using this nation instead of Grande Anjouan.

[Sharko Federation]

I do think we should make another thread so I don't need to go through the hassle of switching from Grande Anjouan to my main. (This one)

[USN Administrator]

Hey guys, I have created a separate account for the USN and I will create a new thread using this. Oh and Kheiastan, I'll TG you the password for this account for you to use when you need to update the thread or what so ever.

[Lybian Arab Republic]

OFFICIAL UNITED SOCIALIST ALLIANCE
REGISTRATION FORM

National Info
Nation Name: Arab Republic of Lybia (Lybian Arab Republic)
Map (if available):
NS Population: 5,000,000
RP Population: 6,355,100

Government Type: Jamahiriya
Head of State: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi
Head of Government: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi

Military Info
Number of Active and Reserve Troops: I am here merely as an observer
Membership Type (Observer, Full Pledged Member): Observer
Nation Tech Era (MT/PMT) MT

Alliance Misc
Do you agree with the Fundamentals and agree to abide to rules?: Yes
Are you a member of any other alliance other than the United Socialist Nations? (Please provide name(s)) No
Are you currently engaged in an armed conflict?: Yes
Are terrorists terrorizing your nation?: Yes
What is/are the reason(s) on why you are applying for this Alliance? For defense

Describe your nations policies toward human rights issues: (LGBT, religious freedom, etc)

LGBT is punishable by death, homosexuals are stoned to death!

All religions are protected equally under the law, but Sunni Islam is the national religion.

Abortion is illegal, and any abortion doctors are put to death for murder.

Roleplays Examples

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=356074

[Ligaogiv]

OFFICIAL UNITED SOCIALIST ALLIANCE
REGISTRATION FORM

National Info
Nation Name: Arab Republic of Lybia (Lybian Arab Republic)
Map (if available):
NS Population: 5,000,000
RP Population: 6,355,100

Government Type:
Head of State: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi
Head of Government: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi

Military Info
Number of Active and Reserve Troops: I am here merely as an observer
Membership Type (Observer, Full Pledged Member): Observer
Nation Tech Era (MT/PMT) MT

Alliance Misc
Do you agree with the Fundamentals and agree to abide to rules?: Yes
Are you a member of any other alliance other than the United Socialist Nations? (Please provide name(s)) No
Are you currently engaged in an armed conflict?: Yes
Are terrorists terrorizing your nation?: Yes
What is/are the reason(s) on why you are applying for this Alliance? For defense

Describe your nations policies toward human rights issues: (LGBT, religious freedom, etc)

LGBT is punishable by death, homosexuals are stoned to death!

All religions are protected equally under the law, but Sunni Islam is the national religion.

Abortion is illegal, and any abortion doctors are put to death for murder.

Roleplays Examples

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 5&t=356074

I wish to lodge my official protest against this nation's joining of the USN. Archaic human rights violations and punishments, the death sentence and the lack of any form of democracy or dictatorship of the proletariat make this nation a poor choice to have in our alliance.

[Kheiastan]

OFFICIAL UNITED SOCIALIST ALLIANCE
REGISTRATION FORM

National Info
Nation Name: Arab Republic of Lybia (Lybian Arab Republic)
Map (if available):
NS Population: 5,000,000
RP Population: 6,355,100

Government Type:
Head of State: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi
Head of Government: Saif al-Islam Gaddafi

Military Info
Number of Active and Reserve Troops: I am here merely as an observer
Membership Type (Observer, Full Pledged Member): Observer
Nation Tech Era (MT/PMT) MT

Alliance Misc
Do you agree with the Fundamentals and agree to abide to rules?: Yes
Are you a member of any other alliance other than the United Socialist Nations? (Please provide name(s)) No
Are you currently engaged in an armed conflict?: Yes
Are terrorists terrorizing your nation?: Yes
What is/are the reason(s) on why you are applying for this Alliance? For defense

Describe your nations policies toward human rights issues: (LGBT, religious freedom, etc)

LGBT is punishable by death, homosexuals are stoned to death!

All religions are protected equally under the law, but Sunni Islam is the national religion.

Abortion is illegal, and any abortion doctors are put to death for murder.

Roleplays Examples

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=356074

I wish to lodge my official protest against this nation's joining of the USN. Archaic human rights violations and punishments, the death sentence and the lack of any form of democracy or dictatorship of the proletariat make this nation a poor choice to have in our alliance.

Kheiastan has the vast majority of those as well..

[Topkekkia]

Kheiastan has the vast majority of those as well..

Yes, however Kheistan is leftist, as well as these groups not actively being persecuted. And having a national religion isn't bad so long as the people accept and support it.

[Lybian Arab Republic]

We have the most truest form of democracy.

[Topkekkia]

We have the most truest form of democracy.

That's not very descriptive. And the human rights violations are quite major.

[Lybian Arab Republic]

It is quite obvious we have true democracy, as layed out in the green book.

[Lybian Arab Republic]

We have the most truest form of democracy.

That's not very descriptive. And the human rights violations are quite major.

Those are not human rights violations, list any?

Many nations have the death-penalty for murderers.

[Topkekkia]

That's not very descriptive. And the human rights violations are quite major.

Those are not human rights violations, list any?

Many nations have the death-penalty for murderers.

The stoning to death of homosexuals is a major violation.

[Lybian Arab Republic]

Those are not human rights violations, list any?

Many nations have the death-penalty for murderers.

The stoning to death of homosexuals is a major violation.

Perhaps to those of decadent western culture, but homosexuality is a deviation from normal behavior, which our people's masses do not tolerate.

[Topkekkia]

The stoning to death of homosexuals is a major violation.

Perhaps to those of decadent western culture, but homosexuality is a deviation from normal behavior, which our people's masses do not tolerate.

Topkekkia has strong Russian and Arab culture influences. It's not a cultural issue, it's an issue of recognizing that people have rights, regardless of their standing in society.

[Ligaogiv]

Perhaps to those of decadent western culture, but homosexuality is a deviation from normal behavior, which our people's masses do not tolerate.

Topkekkia has strong Russian and Arab culture influences. It's not a cultural issue, it's an issue of recognizing that people have rights, regardless of their standing in society.

Seconded. Also, defining 'normal behavior' is highly divisive, and goes against all that we, as socialists, stand for.

[Lybian Arab Republic]

Topkekkia has strong Russian and Arab culture influences. It's not a cultural issue, it's an issue of recognizing that people have rights, regardless of their standing in society.

Seconded. Also, defining 'normal behavior' is highly divisive, and goes against all that we, as socialists, stand for.

Your socialism is not pure, your a liberal not a socialist.

Socialism is an economic system.

[Ligaogiv]

Seconded. Also, defining 'normal behavior' is highly divisive, and goes against all that we, as socialists, stand for.

Your socialism is not pure, your a liberal not a socialist.

Socialism is an economic system.

Saying that another's Socialism is impure is making a dangerous mark on your own brand of socialism. I will not be lectured on Socialist theory by one who I deem not a Socialist.

Can someone make a decision on this? If it comes to a vote, I vote against the LAR joining.

[Topkekkia]

Seconded. Also, defining 'normal behavior' is highly divisive, and goes against all that we, as socialists, stand for.

Your socialism is not pure, your a liberal not a socialist.

Socialism is an economic system.

That's as may be, however, the USN is democratic and supports democracy, as clearly stated in

To spread democracy and equality throughout the world, by force if needed.
To support and defend those whose populations are in need of assistance, and counter those who wish to oppress them.
To bring down the class barriers which are used to divide, and put the despots and rulers into their place.
To allow all sentient beings a free and equal world with all rights to be awarded to them.

of the USN Charter.

[Topkekkia]

Your socialism is not pure, your a liberal not a socialist.

Socialism is an economic system.

Saying that another's Socialism is impure is making a dangerous mark on your own brand of socialism. I will not be lectured on Socialist theory by one who I deem not a Socialist.

Can someone make a decision on this? If it comes to a vote, I vote against the LAR joining.

Seconded.