Rise of Nations RP, 1915 - 1995 (Open to All, OOC)

[Righteous Swords]

*cough* born Italian *cough*

His armies were nevertheless composed of Frenchmen.

inb4 anyone mentions the "foreign" bit of the highly badass French Foreign Legion, it's lead by French officers and is filled with Frenchies.

[Jorliefstreiken]

Mine. I'm closer. You have to get through my navy to get to it. You can have Panama if you want it. I get the Indies. Been gunning for them way longer than you. My precious

Alright, we'll just take it later

we will see. later being after this war. I'm gonna keep building my navy through this. Aircraft carrier here I come. Also just saying, closed cockpit is open for you people.

[Cassinopa]

Can someone please supply me with a map of the world currently: I NEED IT FOR MY NEXT IC POST!

Political: https://i.imgur.com/Zzop8e7.jpg
Blank: https://i.imgur.com/GpYGCv0.png

[Jorliefstreiken]

*cough* born Italian *cough*

His armies were nevertheless composed of Frenchmen.

inb4 anyone mentions the "foreign" bit of the highly badass French Foreign Legion, it's lead by French officers and is filled with Frenchies.

Who turned on him. Twice. Also I'm going to be the bastard and say WWII, Blitzkrieg.

[New Rnclave]

Alright, we'll just take it later

we will see. later being after this war. I'm gonna keep building my navy through this. Aircraft carrier here I come. Also just saying, closed cockpit is open for you people.

The answer to a big navy is simple:

U-Boats

[Righteous Swords]

Who turned on him. Twice. Also I'm going to be the bastard and say WWII, Blitzkrieg.

Aye, and I'll be the bastard to mention Charles de Gaulle and how if they'd listened to his tank tactics (which the Germans based their Blitzkrieg on) instead of listening to the idiots and collaborationist fucks who thought building a giant ass wall would keep the Germans out, decided to fall for the same "rape Belgium in the ass to get to France" trick, and using moronic tank tactics were good ideas.

France had some of the best tanks at the start of the war, and proceed to give de Gaulle the finger and use them in piecemeal, support the infantry, send three to fight a Panzer division tactics that got the French people screwed.

[Jorliefstreiken]

Ok guys, just going to put this up here before we start

WW1 Rules:

1. There is no WW1
2. No touching of the hair or face
3. Serious rule, tone back on chemical warfare, else we get places like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_rouge
4. Don't let WW1 touch water
5. You can't feed WW1 after midnight
6. I'm out of rules

[Jorliefstreiken]

we will see. later being after this war. I'm gonna keep building my navy through this. Aircraft carrier here I come. Also just saying, closed cockpit is open for you people.

The answer to a big navy is simple:

U-Boats

Thanks for reminding me, ill start building those. Also sonar and torpedos, answer to U-boats. Also, assuming we are going to keep advancing like we are now, we will be in atomic era aprox 1929 thanks to everyone who is going mad with technological advancements. I'd say tone it down. I am among the Fe who want to keep this as close to irk as possible. Mostly because I have 31% of the worlds uranium under me and I don't want to use it.

[Independent States of Tula]

Defensive, if I attack the dutch (which I can only do if the Pact votes in favor for expulsion and war) and you attack me then Germany and Danubian Federation must aid me against you because you attacked me first rather than me attacking you. That's how a defensive Pact works.

ehem. not really. you would have declared war against the dutch first, then France would have come to their defense.

That is like saying "I attacked Poland, but the Danube came in to defend them making it a defensive war so I can call in everyone i have a defensive pact with"

*Points to WWI*

That's how defensive Pacts work. I attack the Dutch, the French attack me, Germany and Danube come in because the Pact protects me from a nation that attacked me first.

Attacking the Netherlands =/= Attacking France or Provoking them reasonably. Hence, if France attacks me I can call in my allies.

[Independent States of Tula]

The answer to a big navy is simple:

U-Boats

Thanks for reminding me, ill start building those. Also sonar and torpedos, answer to U-boats. Also, assuming we are going to keep advancing like we are now, we will be in atomic era aprox 1929 thanks to everyone who is going mad with technological advancements. I'd say tone it down. I am among the Fe who want to keep this as close to irk as possible. Mostly because I have 31% of the worlds uranium under me and I don't want to use it.

So far everyone's tech has been in line with what existed in the time.

[New Rnclave]

The answer to a big navy is simple:

U-Boats

Thanks for reminding me, ill start building those. Also sonar and torpedos, answer to U-boats. Also, assuming we are going to keep advancing like we are now, we will be in atomic era aprox 1929 thanks to everyone who is going mad with technological advancements. I'd say tone it down. I am among the Fe who want to keep this as close to irk as possible. Mostly because I have 31% of the worlds uranium under me and I don't want to use it.

Yeah, no atomic weapons until 1940 at least

[Cassinopa]

ehem. not really. you would have declared war against the dutch first, then France would have come to their defense.

That is like saying "I attacked Poland, but the Danube came in to defend them making it a defensive war so I can call in everyone i have a defensive pact with"

*Points to WWI*

That's how defensive Pacts work. I attack the Dutch, the French attack me, Germany and Danube come in because the Pact protects me from a nation that attacked me first.

Attacking the Netherlands =/= Attacking France or Provoking them reasonably. Hence, if France attacks me I can call in my allies.

ah, simple solution then. all France has to do is say it will protect the Netherlands from attackers(or just you specifically, i suppose) before you attack it. then they will have a reason to defend them, and you cannot call in people you are in a defensive pact with.

[Righteous Swords]

Just a heads up, if you do some research and find out your nation has some large aluminum resources, hit me up in the very late 1920s.

[Cassinopa]

Also, can i have an ambassador at the wedding? i don't remember getting an invitation, wanted to ask first.

[Independent States of Tula]

*Points to WWI*

That's how defensive Pacts work. I attack the Dutch, the French attack me, Germany and Danube come in because the Pact protects me from a nation that attacked me first.

Attacking the Netherlands =/= Attacking France or Provoking them reasonably. Hence, if France attacks me I can call in my allies.

ah, simple solution then. all France has to do is say it will protect the Netherlands from attackers(or just you specifically, i suppose) before you attack it. then they will have a reason to defend them, and you cannot call in people you are in a defensive pact with.

Still doesn't work that way. If I don't directly attack or harm France then France cannot attack me without getting attacked in turn by Germany and Danubian Federation.

[Cassinopa]

ah, simple solution then. all France has to do is say it will protect the Netherlands from attackers(or just you specifically, i suppose) before you attack it. then they will have a reason to defend them, and you cannot call in people you are in a defensive pact with.

Still doesn't work that way. If I don't directly attack or harm France then France cannot attack me without getting attacked in turn by Germany and Danubian Federation.

what if France has troops defending in the Netherlands when you attack it? then you will be attacking the french as you attack the Dutch, meaning they would be defending themselves. all france has to do is wait for you to fire the first shot.

[Independent States of Tula]

Still doesn't work that way. If I don't directly attack or harm France then France cannot attack me without getting attacked in turn by Germany and Danubian Federation.

what if France has troops defending in the Netherlands when you attack it? then you will be attacking the french as you attack the Dutch, meaning they would be defending themselves.

I wouldn't attack French troops...if they fire first then they fire first and the Pact comes into play.

[Togeria]

What's going on?

[Cassinopa]

what if France has troops defending in the Netherlands when you attack it? then you will be attacking the french as you attack the Dutch, meaning they would be defending themselves.

I wouldn't attack French troops...if they fire first then they fire first and the Pact comes into play.

Okay, what if The Netherlands temporarily gave its Border lands(say a three foot zone surrounding the entire country) over to France, then France refused to let you move your military through their lands, with a threat of war? you move your troops through their lands, therefore instigating war.

[Independent States of Tula]

I wouldn't attack French troops...if they fire first then they fire first and the Pact comes into play.

Okay, what if The Netherlands temporarily gave its Border lands(say a three foot zone surrounding the entire country) over to France, then France refused to let you move your military through their lands, with a threat of war? you move your troops through their lands, therefore instigating war.

...What? That's literally never happened before in the history of the world.

[Scotatrova]

*polishes tanks*
Now that war is coming ya lads

[Righteous Swords]

...What? That's literally never happened before in the history of the world.

...I feel like that's something Ireland would do to make a giant fuck you to the English.

[Cassinopa]

What's going on?

Netherlands said no to Poland telling them to pull support from GraBgrund, Poland invoked rule 4 of the pact, calling a vot of pact members to kick out and declare war on the Netherlands, France said they would come to the defense of the Netherlands, Poland said if France attacked them they would call in you and Vahn to attack France(from the defensive pact you signed).

[Cassinopa]

Okay, what if The Netherlands temporarily gave its Border lands(say a three foot zone surrounding the entire country) over to France, then France refused to let you move your military through their lands, with a threat of war? you move your troops through their lands, therefore instigating war.

...What? That's literally never happened before in the history of the world.

But it could work.

[Cassinopa]

Just a heads up, if you do some research and find out your nation has some large aluminum resources, hit me up in the very late 1920s.

From what i have been looking at, The Scandinavian union has quite a bit, from their territories in Arabia.

EDIT: i wish i had some, I'd like to get into some trading with you, but alas, Bulgaria is bereft of Aluminum.