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MSTO Thread (OOC, CLOSED)

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:33 pm
by Miklania
This is the official OOC thread for the MSTO, a group of allies in the Western part of The Western Isles.
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This thread is for the revival of the MSTO in The Western Isles. The new membership will consist of Miklania, Muunilenst, Polar Svalbard, Doppler, and Franco-Albion.

Overview:
The Mesder Sea Treaty Organization (MSTO), will be an intergovernmental military alliance based on the Mesder Sea Treaty. The organization will constitute a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. MSTO's headquarters will be located in Franco-Albion. The MSTO will be formed in response to the increasing threat of Communist Imperialism in The Western Isles. The nations of the Western area of the region will seek to band together to defend themselves, others, and to promote peace and prosperity throughout the region.

Structure:
MSTO will be governed by the MSTO Council, composed of representatives of all member states. The representatives will normally be ambassadors, but may be foreign minister, defense ministers, of heads of government. The Council will be headed by a Secretary General. The MSTO Council may shift authority to a single Supreme Allied Commander, if they deem it necessary (e.g. large scale war).

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:26 pm
by Franco-Albion
I'm sitting here, ready to post my news article.
Shall I still wait for Muun, or can I go ahead now?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:47 pm
by Muunilenst
Wait for me. I will have it up soon.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:48 pm
by Franco-Albion
Muunilenst wrote:Wait for me. I will have it up soon.

Sure thing, thanks bud. Just wanted to post it tonight before I head off for a kip. :)

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:53 pm
by Muunilenst
Franco-Albion wrote:
Muunilenst wrote:Wait for me. I will have it up soon.

Sure thing, thanks bud. Just wanted to post it tonight before I head off for a kip. :)

Then its best you post now then, because I am going to take a while. Im grinding gears to publish my military factbook right now

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:00 am
by New Aapelistan
Communist Ivan says: "Tagity tag!"

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:05 pm
by Polar Svalbard
Heyo

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:45 am
by Franco-Albion
This is most troubling:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=26463805#p26457654

Eurania has declared itself a Communist nation. This may be the MSTO's first trial.
How to respond? Obviously I don't want to go gun-ho and charge-in, all in the name of Democracy.
If we're too quick to pull the trigger, we'll get a reputation of a warmongering community.

So, I propose that MSTO members initiate a first wave of sanctions, targeted at Euranian VIPs linked to the regime.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=26463805#p2646380
Secondly, I propose that MSTO members also offer amnesty to any remnants of the Euranian democratic system.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:03 pm
by Miklania
Lets not get ahead of ourselves. First we need to establish the MSTO.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:04 pm
by Muunilenst
Checking in.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:06 pm
by Franco-Albion
Ditto, checking in.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:08 pm
by Muunilenst
So what shall we discuss.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:10 pm
by Miklania
Well, it looks like Polar and Doppy are AWOL, so we will have to vote on the charter later. First order of business then, shall be to discuss how we are going to run the MSTO, and what some of our main policies should be.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:11 pm
by Franco-Albion
Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:17 pm
by Miklania
Franco-Albion wrote:Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:19 pm
by Muunilenst
Miklania wrote:
Franco-Albion wrote:Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Yea I would like it to be just a military alliance as well.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:20 pm
by Franco-Albion
Miklania wrote:
Franco-Albion wrote:Depends if the MSTO is going to be a purely military affair, or involving political and/or economic interests too.

I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:20 pm
by Muunilenst
Franco-Albion wrote:
Miklania wrote:I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

Indeed that is exactly what I want.

Kind if like if one is attacked, its an attack on all of us.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:21 pm
by Miklania
Franco-Albion wrote:
Miklania wrote:I envision it as a military endeavor, but with other parts of foreign policy mixed in. That is kind of required, as military foreign policy and other foreign policies go hand in hand, but I do not think that we need to worry too much about that. Most efforts would probably revolve around defense deals.

We should also promote humanitarian missions during peacetime.

Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

Yes.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:23 pm
by Polar Svalbard
Yeah NATO would be a much better base line

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:24 pm
by Franco-Albion
Miklania wrote:
Franco-Albion wrote:Aye, so definately NATO style affair, rather than EUFOR.

Yes.

In which case, as a starting point, we'll need to each have a Rapid Reaction Force that can be deployed regionally/internationally within 48hrs (preferably 24hrs) and each member will also need to contribute to standing operational bases, such as the one suggested in the TGs.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:25 pm
by Miklania
Polar Svalbard wrote:Yeah NATO would be a much better base line

Ah, Polar you've made it. Shall we discuss the charter? Do we all just want to use the original MSTO charter, modified in the OP?

If so, say Aye. If not, say Nay.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:27 pm
by Muunilenst
Franco-Albion wrote:
Miklania wrote:Yes.

In which case, as a starting point, we'll need to each have a Rapid Reaction Force that can be deployed regionally/internationally within 48hrs (preferably 24hrs) and each member will also need to contribute to standing operational bases, such as the one suggested in the TGs.

Sounds like a good idea. I Can use my lone island base

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:27 pm
by Miklania
I vote Aye.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:30 pm
by Franco-Albion
Ayes To The Left ... (yes from me)