MSTO Thread (OOC, CLOSED)

[Polar Svalbard]

Like, diesel?

AIP, mine uses LNG for both Stirling engines and the generators. No diesel involved unless you want it to be.

I also just came across an interesting article proposing special operations/littoral combat submarines. Polar might be the most interested in this.

I like that a lot, would fit quite well into the operations I enjoy and could actually be useful immediately with the Atnaia storyline.

[Miklania]

AIP, mine uses LNG for both Stirling engines and the generators. No diesel involved unless you want it to be.

I also just came across an interesting article proposing special operations/littoral combat submarines. Polar might be the most interested in this.

I like that a lot, would fit quite well into the operations I enjoy and could actually be useful immediately with the Atnaia storyline.

If you want to make those to augment your nuclear forces, that would be great. I'll do the art if you want.

[Polar Svalbard]

I like that a lot, would fit quite well into the operations I enjoy and could actually be useful immediately with the Atnaia storyline.

If you want to make those to augment your nuclear forces, that would be great. I'll do the art if you want.

I would love if you would do some art for it, as that's the next factbook I want to make since I'm actually interested in this concept. It would pair well with SMI-2 stuff, and could work well in cooperation with the Atnaian storyline.

[Miklania]

If you want to make those to augment your nuclear forces, that would be great. I'll do the art if you want.

I would love if you would do some art for it, as that's the next factbook I want to make since I'm actually interested in this concept. It would pair well with SMI-2 stuff, and could work well in cooperation with the Atnaian storyline.

It seems to me to be a very good design. The lack of a sail is a little unusual, and might not work well in real life, since the sail is supposed to be a stabilizer while underwater, but it's totally workable in the context of NS. It even has seven round VLS canisters, like on the Unforgiven and Strident class subs I have. Flank array sonar looks similar to the one I put on the Strident, and the design lends itself to other elements of that design. I'm willing to share sub tech with you guys, and who's to say some of that stuff wasn't yours shared with me?

Edit: I wonder if Ostehaar would be interested in this as well. A lot of his power is through spec ops too.

[Polar Svalbard]

I would love if you would do some art for it, as that's the next factbook I want to make since I'm actually interested in this concept. It would pair well with SMI-2 stuff, and could work well in cooperation with the Atnaian storyline.

It seems to me to be a very good design. The lack of a sail is a little unusual, and might not work well in real life, since the sail is supposed to be a stabilizer while underwater, but it's totally workable in the context of NS. It even has seven round VLS canisters, like on the Unforgiven and Strident class subs I have. Flank array sonar looks similar to the one I put on the Strident, and the design lends itself to other elements of that design. I'm willing to share sub tech with you guys, and who's to say some of that stuff wasn't yours shared with me?

Edit: I wonder if Ostehaar would be interested in this as well. A lot of his power is through spec ops too.

Makes sense, and I believe that this could be interesting for Ostehaar too. Have to bring him in here to see if he'd be interested.

[Ostehaar]

It seems to me to be a very good design. The lack of a sail is a little unusual, and might not work well in real life, since the sail is supposed to be a stabilizer while underwater, but it's totally workable in the context of NS. It even has seven round VLS canisters, like on the Unforgiven and Strident class subs I have. Flank array sonar looks similar to the one I put on the Strident, and the design lends itself to other elements of that design. I'm willing to share sub tech with you guys, and who's to say some of that stuff wasn't yours shared with me?

Edit: I wonder if Ostehaar would be interested in this as well. A lot of his power is through spec ops too.

Makes sense, and I believe that this could be interesting for Ostehaar too. Have to bring him in here to see if he'd be interested.

Yep. :)

[Polar Svalbard]

Makes sense, and I believe that this could be interesting for Ostehaar too. Have to bring him in here to see if he'd be interested.

Yep.

I'll send you the dispatch when I'm done.

[Miklania]

I'll get the sub drawing done soon. News post art is my current task, that's been long overdue for me.

In other news, there's a swag new cartridge hitting the market, the .224 Valkyrie. Proof of that level of performance may be enough to get the Miklanian military to come around to intermediate cartridges. Segen and I already discussed it a little bit. I might start designing some new small arms to go along with a .224 MSTO round.

[Miklania]

Polar, I'm going to need a name for the sub.

[Miklania]

I'm also going to be designing three SDVs along with the sub. One advanced optionally autonomous one, based on Proteus; one new but less sophisticated wet submersible based on the SDV Mk. XI; and one very large surface launched deep-diving dry combat submersible, based on the Lockheed S352 or S302.

The first two will fit in the dry deck shelters of the Shallow Water Submarine (SWS), and the last one can be deployed from suitable surface ships, as it is too large to fit in the DDS. That said it still has a docking collar for linking up with a sub. I will also make a dedicated LDUUV for the sub as well. Feel free to call dibs on being the one to design and manufacture some of these types. I call the big surface launched one.

http://www.hisutton.com/Proteus%20SDV.html
http://www.hisutton.com/US%20Navy%20SEA ... XI%20(SWCS).html
http://www.hisutton.com/Lockheed%20Dry% ... sible.html

[Polar Svalbard]

I'm also going to be designing three SDVs along with the sub. One advanced optionally autonomous one, based on Proteus; one new but less sophisticated wet submersible based on the SDV Mk. XI; and one very large surface launched deep-diving dry combat submersible, based on the Lockheed S352 or S302.

The first two will fit in the dry deck shelters of the Shallow Water Submarine (SWS), and the last one can be deployed from suitable surface ships, as it is too large to fit in the DDS. That said it still has a docking collar for linking up with a sub. I will also make a dedicated LDUUV for the sub as well. Feel free to call dibs on being the one to design and manufacture some of these types. I call the big surface launched one.

http://www.hisutton.com/Proteus%20SDV.html
http://www.hisutton.com/US%20Navy%20SEA ... XI%20(SWCS).html
http://www.hisutton.com/Lockheed%20Dry% ... sible.html

It would make sense for Polar Svalbard to have at least made one of the smaller submersibles. Likely the non-autonomous ones.

I would imagine the name for the class to be the SWS Barracuda.

[Miklania]

I'm also going to be designing three SDVs along with the sub. One advanced optionally autonomous one, based on Proteus; one new but less sophisticated wet submersible based on the SDV Mk. XI; and one very large surface launched deep-diving dry combat submersible, based on the Lockheed S352 or S302.

The first two will fit in the dry deck shelters of the Shallow Water Submarine (SWS), and the last one can be deployed from suitable surface ships, as it is too large to fit in the DDS. That said it still has a docking collar for linking up with a sub. I will also make a dedicated LDUUV for the sub as well. Feel free to call dibs on being the one to design and manufacture some of these types. I call the big surface launched one.

http://www.hisutton.com/Proteus%20SDV.html
http://www.hisutton.com/US%20Navy%20SEA ... XI%20(SWCS).html
http://www.hisutton.com/Lockheed%20Dry% ... sible.html

It would make sense for Polar Svalbard to have at least made one of the smaller submersibles. Likely the non-autonomous ones.

I would imagine the name for the class to be the SWS Barracuda.

Sounds good.

[Miklania]

Work on the sub is wrapping up.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

Fancy SDV - Polar
Not Fancy SDV - Segentova, Polar, Miklania
Deep Diving Surface SDV - Miklania

[Miklania]

Is done.

Fancy SDV on bottom, Not Fancy SDV on top.

4x 533mm Torp tubes for Harpoons and Krakens
2x 7-round VPM modules for Tomahawks

2x enlarged dry deck shelters, one SDV each.

Complement: 27 crew, 66 Special Operations personnel.

[Corindia]

(Image)

Is done.

Fancy SDV on bottom, Not Fancy SDV on top.

4x 533mm Torp tubes for Harpoons and Krakens
2x 7-round VPM modules for Tomahawks

2x enlarged dry deck shelters, one SDV each.

Complement: 27 crew, 66 Special Operations personnel.

Looks sleek

[Miklania]

Any of y'all make a gun like the MP5?

[Corindia]

Any of y'all make a gun like the MP5?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=cor ... /id=712711
The closest thing we make is the Canalla

[Miklania]

Any of y'all make a gun like the MP5?

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=cor ... /id=712711
The closest thing we make is the Canalla

I'm more interested in a Not! type weapon for a specific application, although that gun is pretty sweet, and may see other uses in Miklania in the future.

[Miklania]

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articl ... 12731.html

I really want to make the balloon thing a thing. These things plus JLENS plus maybe even barrage balloons could be a major MSTO technology advantage.

[Corindia]

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a192618.pdf
Saw this in the aircraft thread, it was interesting.
I had no sense of barrage balloons' actual efficiency before now

I've been preparing for this moment

[Miklania]

In other news I'm planning to adopt M16 pattern weapons with a new .224 MSTO cartridge.

[Norstham]

(Image)

Is done.

Fancy SDV on bottom, Not Fancy SDV on top.

4x 533mm Torp tubes for Harpoons and Krakens
2x 7-round VPM modules for Tomahawks

2x enlarged dry deck shelters, one SDV each.

Complement: 27 crew, 66 Special Operations personnel.

That is noice.

[Miklania]

If we let Correnia in, and get Menhavia and Notland (who I've been negotiating arms deals with) in, we could create an axis of power in the north.

[Corindia]

If we let Correnia in, and get Menhavia and Notland (who I've been negotiating arms deals with) in, we could create an axis of power in the north.

Three new members at once? And are they all new to the region? I guess if they've been around for at least a month it's okay

[Norstham]

Could someone tell me about these war rumours that have been doing the rounds.

Also, potential new ship design incoming later this week.