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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:09 am

Norstham wrote:
Miklania wrote:Have you thought about collaborating with Polar to explain why you have pretty much the same plane?

You and me could mass produce the Ironwing class, most likely the Flight II design, while Polar can mass produce the Kreshen class.

Yeah, I'll speak with Polar about the plane being some sort of joint venture.

I'd be up for the Ironwing thing, would we start mass producing them now or start doing it when it looks likely that there will be another big war?

The idea is to start churning them out when we get into another major war.

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Postby Ventlimer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:44 am

Would you guys want a permanent vase in ventlimer for joint msto forces?
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Postby Norstham » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:53 am

Ventlimer wrote:Would you guys want a permanent vase in ventlimer for joint msto forces?

I assume you mean base. It wouldn't do any harm, but we could just use existing bases.
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Postby Ventlimer » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:02 am

Norstham wrote:
Ventlimer wrote:Would you guys want a permanent vase in ventlimer for joint msto forces?

I assume you mean base. It wouldn't do any harm, but we could just use existing bases.

That would be the plan.
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Postby Corindia » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:19 pm

The flexing on the RMB right now is unreal. In other news, with Atnaia collapsing and Covonant leaving San Javier, there's actually a fighting chance it could be brought into the fold. Probably not going to tip any scales, but good nonetheless.

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Postby Miklania » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:54 am

We also need to look into the boring stuff, like sealift and airlift platforms. Y'all need big boats. I'm thinking of making one Algol class behemoth to supplement the St. Maurice class ships, maybe y'all could get one too or something like the LMSR. We also need to make sure that we each have enough strategic airlift platforms (C-17s).

We should count on being split up between north and south in the event of a war with the C6. Northern Command would be Polar and Norstham and Segen. Southern Command would be Vent, Doppy, and me. Each command should have an adequate amount of strategic logistics assets so that it can conduct large scale invasion operations independently of the mighty Miklanian fleet.

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Postby Norstham » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:00 am

Miklania wrote:We also need to look into the boring stuff, like sealift and airlift platforms. Y'all need big boats. I'm thinking of making one Algol class behemoth to supplement the St. Maurice class ships, maybe y'all could get one too or something like the LMSR. We also need to make sure that we each have enough strategic airlift platforms (C-17s).

We should count on being split up between north and south in the event of a war with the C6. Northern Command would be Polar and Norstham and Segen. Southern Command would be Vent, Doppy, and me. Each command should have an adequate amount of strategic logistics assets so that it can conduct large scale invasion operations independently of the mighty Miklanian fleet.

Could I purchase them off you?

Also, in the event of a large war, we'd also be converting civilian vessels, right?
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Postby Miklania » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:03 am

Norstham wrote:
Miklania wrote:We also need to look into the boring stuff, like sealift and airlift platforms. Y'all need big boats. I'm thinking of making one Algol class behemoth to supplement the St. Maurice class ships, maybe y'all could get one too or something like the LMSR. We also need to make sure that we each have enough strategic airlift platforms (C-17s).

We should count on being split up between north and south in the event of a war with the C6. Northern Command would be Polar and Norstham and Segen. Southern Command would be Vent, Doppy, and me. Each command should have an adequate amount of strategic logistics assets so that it can conduct large scale invasion operations independently of the mighty Miklanian fleet.

Could I purchase them off you?

Also, in the event of a large war, we'd also be converting civilian vessels, right?

We could convert civilian vessels, but sometimes it's better to have some dedicated equipment. Cargo ships can be used for civilian purposes during peacetime as well.

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On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Segentova » Tue Jul 04, 2017 1:35 pm

Miklania wrote:
Norstham wrote:Could I purchase them off you?

Also, in the event of a large war, we'd also be converting civilian vessels, right?

We could convert civilian vessels, but sometimes it's better to have some dedicated equipment. Cargo ships can be used for civilian purposes during peacetime as well.

This plan and a basde in vent are both good ideas. but why not MST bases in all our countries?
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Postby Miklania » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:08 pm

Segentova wrote:
Miklania wrote:We could convert civilian vessels, but sometimes it's better to have some dedicated equipment. Cargo ships can be used for civilian purposes during peacetime as well.

This plan and a basde in vent are both good ideas. but why not MST bases in all our countries?

Expensive. Between our own nations and sea basing capabilities, we do not need foreign bases.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Ventlimer » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:51 pm

Miklania wrote:
Segentova wrote:This plan and a basde in vent are both good ideas. but why not MST bases in all our countries?

Expensive. Between our own nations and sea basing capabilities, we do not need foreign bases.

I was thinking less full bases and more joint training facilities to promote cooperation.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:11 pm

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Postby Ventlimer » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:25 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:Learn how to have no morals or compassion with SMI-2

Yessss
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Postby Miklania » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:27 pm

Ventlimer wrote:
Miklania wrote:Expensive. Between our own nations and sea basing capabilities, we do not need foreign bases.

I was thinking less full bases and more joint training facilities to promote cooperation.

Wouldn't that just be our regular military bases?
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On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:35 pm

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Postby Miklania » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:15 pm

Right then, I have an idea. Who wants to make a multi-variant international stealth fighter! But not as much of a developmental clusterfuck as the JSF!

We could use the McDonnell Douglas JSF proposal, in all it's magnificence.

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Or maybe just the STOVL model as a replacement for Harriers and Seraphims, with a Shark replacement for the Navy.
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On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Ventlimer » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:18 pm

Miklania wrote:Right then, I have an idea. Who wants to make a multi-variant international stealth fighter! But not as much of a developmental clusterfuck as the JSF!

We could use the McDonnell Douglas JSF proposal, in all it's magnificence.

(Image)

Sounds groovy
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:55 pm

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Postby Miklania » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:03 pm

I'd probably want to make something like the NATF to replace the Shark and Super Banshee. BTW, Polar, that should be the FM8 Super Banshee.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Miklania » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:06 pm

So I propose two new development programs, the Joint Vertical Fighter (JVF) program to replace the Harrier, Valkyrie, and Seraphim, and the Advanced Naval Fighter (ANF) to replace the Shark and Super Banshee and act as a compliment to the Avenger II. Sea Seraphims and Howlers (EW Super Banshee variant) are not up for replacement. The F87 can replace older heavy fighters. A12 Avengers will replace older tactical bombers, both land and sea based.
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On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Polar Svalbard » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:16 pm

Miklania wrote:I'd probably want to make something like the NATF to replace the Shark and Super Banshee. BTW, Polar, that should be the FM8 Super Banshee.

Why?
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:43 am

Polar Svalbard wrote:
Miklania wrote:I'd probably want to make something like the NATF to replace the Shark and Super Banshee. BTW, Polar, that should be the FM8 Super Banshee.

Why?

Standardized numbering scheme. FM is for multi role fighter, and 8 would be a good number in the sequence for it.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Miklania » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:07 am

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This looks like a pretty dope base for the ANF program.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Norstham » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:10 am

Miklania wrote:(Image)

This looks like a pretty dope base for the ANF program.

I like the idea and the planes.
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Postby Miklania » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:09 pm

I've also become very interested in the idea of increased body armor coverage, such as making full suits of armor out of modern materials. What do you guys think about this?

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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