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Miklania
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Postby Miklania » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:20 am

Ventlimer wrote:Could you guys go to the league and defend the resolution batting rise from it?

What's going on in the league?

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Postby Ventlimer » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:24 am

Miklania wrote:
Ventlimer wrote:Could you guys go to the league and defend the resolution batting rise from it?

What's going on in the league?

I put forward a resolution kicking bhikk out ofvthe league and making so thevkeague can't recognize the eusr at any point
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Postby Miklania » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:37 am

Ventlimer wrote:
Miklania wrote:What's going on in the league?

I put forward a resolution kicking bhikk out ofvthe league and making so thevkeague can't recognize the eusr at any point

Noice. Just read up on the thread. Miklania will support the measure, of course. We're the ones that got NA kicked out of the League in the first place.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Ventlimer » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:50 am

Miklania wrote:
Ventlimer wrote:I put forward a resolution kicking bhikk out ofvthe league and making so thevkeague can't recognize the eusr at any point

Noice. Just read up on the thread. Miklania will support the measure, of course. We're the ones that got NA kicked out of the League in the first place.

Coolio.
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Postby Segentova » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:28 pm

Kicking commies out of the league?! Awe yiss, let's get to dis! I'll get to it ASAP, if that's ok?
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:27 am

Hey Seg, Nors, or Dop. Vote Aye in the League.
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Postby Norstham » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:45 am

Polar Svalbard wrote:Hey Seg, Nors, or Dop. Vote Aye in the League.

Just realised that I'm not in the League, even though I read the thread. I'll join.
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Postby Miklania » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:10 pm

Yes, join so that the MSTO has more power. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! JK, the League is mostly useless, just like the UN.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Ventlimer » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:26 pm

Miklania wrote:Yes, join so that the MSTO has more power. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! JK, the League is mostly useless, just like the UN.

Exactly. Only useful when a story needs it.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:43 pm

But that's what its there for, to add story and to help other stories along.
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Postby Ventlimer » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:08 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:But that's what its there for, to add story and to help other stories along.

And, hopefully, to provide explanations for internationally needed things like canals.
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Postby Miklania » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:29 pm

I jut had an idea. Y'all know how in WWII people started churning out standardized designs meant mostly for ease of production? We could make a series of "contingency classes", specs for ships that would be easy to build but may have more spartan features than our main vessels. These would be great for use in a major war. I'm thinking mostly amphibious/logistics ships, missile boats, submarines, and frigates.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Ventlimer » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:40 pm

Miklania wrote:I jut had an idea. Y'all know how in WWII people started churning out standardized designs meant mostly for ease of production? We could make a series of "contingency classes", specs for ships that would be easy to build but may have more spartan features than our main vessels. These would be great for use in a major war. I'm thinking mostly amphibious/logistics ships, missile boats, submarines, and frigates.

Small stuff that often gets sunk? Yeah that sounds like a good plan.
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Postby Corindia » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:54 pm

Miklania wrote:I jut had an idea. Y'all know how in WWII people started churning out standardized designs meant mostly for ease of production? We could make a series of "contingency classes", specs for ships that would be easy to build but may have more spartan features than our main vessels. These would be great for use in a major war. I'm thinking mostly amphibious/logistics ships, missile boats, submarines, and frigates.

That's a really good idea.

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Postby Miklania » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:19 am

Ventlimer wrote:
Miklania wrote:I jut had an idea. Y'all know how in WWII people started churning out standardized designs meant mostly for ease of production? We could make a series of "contingency classes", specs for ships that would be easy to build but may have more spartan features than our main vessels. These would be great for use in a major war. I'm thinking mostly amphibious/logistics ships, missile boats, submarines, and frigates.

Small stuff that often gets sunk? Yeah that sounds like a good plan.

No no no, it would have to be durable, just don't expect fancy trim in the enlisted berthing spaces. Officers will still need respectable accommodations of course. But they might have to do without a wine cellar.

you know, this instead of this.

The hulls will still be built like tanks. Speaking of, I think the Timberwolf is an adequate design for mass production, although we would likely need to switch back to M6A1 production instead of M6A2. The A1 uses DU armor while the A2 has tungsten. The tungsten performs a little better, but is rarer and more expensive, while DU is cheap and readily available as a waste product of the nuclear industry. The A1 also lacks the Oster Cloak APS, which is expensive, plus other things like improved optics and a remote weapons system. The optics and RWS might need to be added to the A1 in some SEP package or something. That would probably be the tank to produce. I believe there are production lines in Polar Svalbard as well as in Miklania, which is helpful.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Miklania » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:09 pm

Seraphims can also be mass produced quickly, and if Valkyries are anything like F-16s, they can be made quickly too. We would still need to invest in building extra high end combat aircraft though, the cheap ones can't do all the work by themselves.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Corindia » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:14 pm

Miklania wrote:Seraphims can also be mass produced quickly, and if Valkyries are anything like F-16s, they can be made quickly too. We would still need to invest in building extra high end combat aircraft though, the cheap ones can't do all the work by themselves.

I'd be happy to make more Ansars, I'm so proud of the art that I'll do anything to bring them up IC.

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Postby Norstham » Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:19 am

Miklania wrote:Seraphims can also be mass produced quickly, and if Valkyries are anything like F-16s, they can be made quickly too. We would still need to invest in building extra high end combat aircraft though, the cheap ones can't do all the work by themselves.

My !F-16 could be made quickly and cheaply as well. I like the ship idea, too.
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Postby Miklania » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:14 am

Norstham wrote:
Miklania wrote:Seraphims can also be mass produced quickly, and if Valkyries are anything like F-16s, they can be made quickly too. We would still need to invest in building extra high end combat aircraft though, the cheap ones can't do all the work by themselves.

My !F-16 could be made quickly and cheaply as well. I like the ship idea, too.

Have you thought about collaborating with Polar to explain why you have pretty much the same plane?

You and me could mass produce the Ironwing class, most likely the Flight II design, while Polar can mass produce the Kreshen class.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Miklania » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:02 pm

The Strident class SSK would be the sub that I start mass producing in the event of war.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Ventlimer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:47 pm

Covonant and I are going to start throwing punches faster than a couple of hood rats if crassus gets elected.
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Postby Corindia » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:24 pm

Ventlimer wrote:Covonant and I are going to start throwing punches faster than a couple of hood rats if crassus gets elected.

Try not to start a war I guess

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Postby Ventlimer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:26 pm

Corindia wrote:
Ventlimer wrote:Covonant and I are going to start throwing punches faster than a couple of hood rats if crassus gets elected.

Try not to start a war I guess

Yeah, that wouldn't be fun.
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Postby Miklania » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:30 pm

Ventlimer wrote:
Corindia wrote:Try not to start a war I guess

Yeah, that wouldn't be fun.

Yeah, please don't. Not until we get your military sorted out at least.

On Government: Checks and balances and ways of stopping things from happening are the only things that provide a stable government and a stable society.

On Democracy: It is a very neutral thing. It can be the best way of ensuring a reasonable government, or it can lead to genocide in the name of 'the people'.

On NSG: I believe the technical term for you people is "malformed conscience".

On society: Until reason and science become cool again, the "enlightened" who profess both but practice neither will continue to gleefully chip away at the bedrock of human society.

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Postby Norstham » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:54 am

Miklania wrote:
Norstham wrote:My !F-16 could be made quickly and cheaply as well. I like the ship idea, too.

Have you thought about collaborating with Polar to explain why you have pretty much the same plane?

You and me could mass produce the Ironwing class, most likely the Flight II design, while Polar can mass produce the Kreshen class.

Yeah, I'll speak with Polar about the plane being some sort of joint venture.

I'd be up for the Ironwing thing, would we start mass producing them now or start doing it when it looks likely that there will be another big war?
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