MSTO Thread (OOC, CLOSED)

[Segentova]

How 'bout ASAP?

What and how many off it do you want?

I'll TG you later.

[Miklania]

I would suggest looking at a heavily modified Perry class. Those ships are ridiculously tough.

Yeah, they were literally the low ship in the US Navy, so it'd make sense (I think the Burke was the high). Like the first ship was designed in the 70s, I think, and there are still some in service in navies today.

Edit: I think the Spruance was the high ship, but tbh they probably both were.

Yup, and they can take a beating. The Samuel B. Roberts took a mine to the keel and survived, the Stark took two Exocets and survived (remember that Sheffield took one that didn't even explode properly), and they have been some of the toughest ships to sink in SINKEX exercises.

I'm going to be splitting my low end into two classes, one old based on the Perry, and then the new one, since 31 of one class would take forever to build.

[Norstham]

Yeah, they were literally the low ship in the US Navy, so it'd make sense (I think the Burke was the high). Like the first ship was designed in the 70s, I think, and there are still some in service in navies today.

Edit: I think the Spruance was the high ship, but tbh they probably both were.

Yup, and they can take a beating. The Samuel B. Roberts took a mine to the keel and survived, the Stark took two Exocets and survived (remember that Sheffield took one that didn't even explode properly), and they have been some of the toughest ships to sink in SINKEX exercises.

I'm going to be splitting my low end into two classes, one old based on the Perry, and then the new one, since 31 of one class would take forever to build.

Yeah, one of the ones in an exercise was hit with multiple Harpoon missiles from South Korean, Australian and US subs, ships and planes, various other weapons and a Mk 48 Torpedo and still took 12 hours to sink.

[Miklania]

Yup, and they can take a beating. The Samuel B. Roberts took a mine to the keel and survived, the Stark took two Exocets and survived (remember that Sheffield took one that didn't even explode properly), and they have been some of the toughest ships to sink in SINKEX exercises.

I'm going to be splitting my low end into two classes, one old based on the Perry, and then the new one, since 31 of one class would take forever to build.

Yeah, one of the ones in an exercise was hit with multiple Harpoon missiles from South Korean, Australian and US subs, ships and planes, various other weapons and a Mk 48 Torpedo and still took 12 hours to sink.

Meanwhile in an inferior boat: http://www.military.com/video/operation ... 2105943001

One Mk 48 torp.

The Thach: https://youtu.be/xa5KqLGvXsw

[Norstham]

Yeah, one of the ones in an exercise was hit with multiple Harpoon missiles from South Korean, Australian and US subs, ships and planes, various other weapons and a Mk 48 Torpedo and still took 12 hours to sink.

Meanwhile in an inferior boat: http://www.military.com/video/operation ... 2105943001

One Mk 48 torp.

The Thach: https://youtu.be/xa5KqLGvXsw

Yeah, I was watching the bottom video earlier, I must admit though, the top one was more amusing to watch.

[Miklania]

Meanwhile in an inferior boat: http://www.military.com/video/operation ... 2105943001

One Mk 48 torp.

The Thach: https://youtu.be/xa5KqLGvXsw

Yeah, I was watching the bottom video earlier, I must admit though, the top one was more amusing to watch.

Yeah, but I'd rather be on the second one.

[Corindia]

I'm going to be properly detailing and reworking parts of my Navy soon, are there MSTO standardized weapons systems I can use?

[Miklania]

I'm going to be properly detailing and reworking parts of my Navy soon, are there MSTO standardized weapons systems I can use?

Yes, we're working on a list. Use Mk. 41 or Mk. 57 VLS systems, 57, 76, and 127mm guns. As a general rule of thumb, if the US uses it, you can use it. We're working on getting the missiles codified.

[Corindia]

I'm going to be properly detailing and reworking parts of my Navy soon, are there MSTO standardized weapons systems I can use?

Yes, we're working on a list. Use Mk. 41 or Mk. 57 VLS systems, 57, 76, and 127mm guns. As a general rule of thumb, if the US uses it, you can use it. We're working on getting the missiles codified.

Alright, fantastic. Much better than my previous system which was just naming them after birds and calling it a day.

[Miklania]

Yes, we're working on a list. Use Mk. 41 or Mk. 57 VLS systems, 57, 76, and 127mm guns. As a general rule of thumb, if the US uses it, you can use it. We're working on getting the missiles codified.

Alright, fantastic. Much better than my previous system which was just naming them after birds and calling it a day.

The Standard MSTO missiles are the Spear series, plus the Pike, Tomahawk, Vertically Launched SDB, and the VL-ASROC.

The Spear, Pike, and VLSDB are my own concoctions.

Spear 1 is a drop in replacement for the ESSM.
Spear 2 is a drop in replacement for the SM-2 rail launched version.
Spear 3 is a drop in replacement for the SM-3.
Spear 4 is a drop in replacement for the Rolling Airframe Missile.
Spear 5 is either an SM-2 with the guidance section of an SM-6 or an SM-6 minus the booster, depending on how you look at it. VLS and rail launched.
Spear 6 is a drop in replacement for the SM-6.

Pike is basically an LRASM.

The VLSDB is basically the ground launched small diameter bomb, if you've seen that, quadpacked into Mk. 41 Tactical length or Strike length cells.

[Miklania]

I actually think we need a better name for the Pike. Anyone have any ideas? The theme for missiles so far has been melee weapons. Spear, Longsword, Tomahawk, etc.

[Corindia]

I actually think we need a better name for the Pike. Anyone have any ideas? The theme for missiles so far has been melee weapons. Spear, Longsword, Tomahawk, etc.

Glaive?

[Miklania]

I actually think we need a better name for the Pike. Anyone have any ideas? The theme for missiles so far has been melee weapons. Spear, Longsword, Tomahawk, etc.

Glaive?

Glaive is nice, other suggestions are still appreciated.

[Norstham]

Glaive?

Glaive is nice, other suggestions are still appreciated.

I like Glaive.

[Miklania]

Glaive is nice, other suggestions are still appreciated.

I like Glaive.

The Aspis looks good, except the Matrone might be a bit redundant, and is non-standard.

[Norstham]

I like Glaive.

The Aspis looks good, except the Matrone might be a bit redundant, and is non-standard.

Great, I've removed it now, and I'll start adding them to my Navy factbook.

[Miklania]

The Aspis looks good, except the Matrone might be a bit redundant, and is non-standard.

Great, I've removed it now, and I'll start adding them to my Navy factbook.

What's the boat going to look like?

[Norstham]

Great, I've removed it now, and I'll start adding them to my Navy factbook.

What's the boat going to look like?

The hull would probably be similar to the Perry. I'm thinking of a more modern version of it, since they were mostly built in the 90s. It would obviously have far superior aviation capabilities compared to the Perry.

[Miklania]

What's the boat going to look like?

The hull would probably be similar to the Perry. I'm thinking of a more modern version of it, since they were mostly built in the 90s. It would obviously have far superior aviation capabilities compared to the Perry.

Would the super structure be the same? I'm not actually sure if it's possible to make the Perry weigh nearly twice as much as it does. Increasing the weight of the superstructure is definitely not advisable, since the Perrys already need an active stabilization system to keep their narrow hulls from rocking too much. Unless you are looking for a frigate, I would recommend looking at a different base.

[Norstham]

The hull would probably be similar to the Perry. I'm thinking of a more modern version of it, since they were mostly built in the 90s. It would obviously have far superior aviation capabilities compared to the Perry.

Would the super structure be the same? I'm not actually sure if it's possible to make the Perry weigh nearly twice as much as it does. Increasing the weight of the superstructure is definitely not advisable, since the Perrys already need an active stabilization system to keep their narrow hulls from rocking too much. Unless you are looking for a frigate, I would recommend looking at a different base.

I'm just looking at destroyers of a similar era for ideas, didn't know that about the Perry.

[Miklania]

http://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.c ... 0-gun.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroth ... technology

This is some cool technology that we could have in development.

[Miklania]

Would the super structure be the same? I'm not actually sure if it's possible to make the Perry weigh nearly twice as much as it does. Increasing the weight of the superstructure is definitely not advisable, since the Perrys already need an active stabilization system to keep their narrow hulls from rocking too much. Unless you are looking for a frigate, I would recommend looking at a different base.

I'm just looking at destroyers of a similar era for ideas, didn't know that about the Perry.

May I suggest the larger European super frigates as bases? Like the De Zeven Provincien, Sachsen, Fridtjof Nansen, etc.

[Doppler]

Hey Mik after this whole IW2 thing blows over do you want to set up a military base in The South Dopplerian Isles and allow me to station troops there? It allows me to bypass The Second Treaty of Theveste. Plus you get to station troops in a pretty vital spot of TWI so why not?

[Miklania]

Hey Mik after this whole IW2 thing blows over do you want to set up a military base in The South Dopplerian Isles and allow me to station troops there? It allows me to bypass The Second Treaty of Theveste. Plus you get to station troops in a pretty vital spot of TWI so why not?

Sounds like fun.

[Miklania]

Hey Mik after this whole IW2 thing blows over do you want to set up a military base in The South Dopplerian Isles and allow me to station troops there? It allows me to bypass The Second Treaty of Theveste. Plus you get to station troops in a pretty vital spot of TWI so why not?

Technically though, it says that you shall ensure that they shall remain demilitarized, with the language being ambiguous as to whether or not that only applies to your military or whether you are obligated to ensure that other people do not militarize it.