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Asigna
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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:25 am

Riysa wrote:Alright, can we just at least get ORBATs and the locations and stuff for forces?


Okay sure. Wait for my next post. It will be there. I'm still making fixed orbats for my certain military forces as well as updating my equipment.
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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:28 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Asigna wrote:The bayan is ready to sacrifice everything for its survival. Not to mention i adopted a new military doctrine.


I am not dogpilling. So far I just launched recon and I don't have plans to invade Asignese mainland so far.

But if you noticed Asignese movements in Yemen are of concern to Nihonese and Riysan interests in the middle east.

Also don't worry, Nihonese church is about to announce Terten candidate for Antichrist. And you know too well how Nihonese population, where Christianity is as entrenched as Islam in the middle east, will do then...


I'm okay with Terten being a villain. Much of the focus on the rp will be on Terten as an individual figure and not the bayan.

You're going to be fighting against a figure like Osama Bin Laden and Che Guevarra. Stateless people.
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
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Postby Riysa » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:29 am

Asigna wrote:
Riysa wrote:Alright, can we just at least get ORBATs and the locations and stuff for forces?


Okay sure. Wait for my next post. It will be there. I'm still making fixed orbats for my certain military forces as well as updating my equipment.


I hope this doesn't jump ahead too far? We still have the delegates arriving, after all.

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Postby Quirina » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:34 am

Riysa wrote:
Asigna wrote:
Okay sure. Wait for my next post. It will be there. I'm still making fixed orbats for my certain military forces as well as updating my equipment.


I hope this doesn't jump ahead too far? We still have the delegates arriving, after all.

The last time I remember, your delegates were denied to enter Philippines, while those that are pro-Asigna are given a grand welcome.
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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:35 am

Quirina wrote:
Riysa wrote:
I hope this doesn't jump ahead too far? We still have the delegates arriving, after all.

The last time I remember, your delegates were denied to enter Philippines, while those that are pro-Asigna are given a grand welcome.


No, their forces were denied entry, only delegates were allowed to party. Read again. :)
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:40 am

TBH Asigna your army requires overhaul.

Don't worry, I am fine with time and not rushing. I actually want to give said conflict more depth than invading for OOC reasons.
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Postby Riysa » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:43 am

New Aeyariss wrote:TBH Asigna your army requires overhaul.

Don't worry, I am fine with time and not rushing. I actually want to give said conflict more depth than invading for OOC reasons.


Likewise, I'm just worried about jumping ahead.

Also.

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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:45 am

Riysa wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:TBH Asigna your army requires overhaul.

Don't worry, I am fine with time and not rushing. I actually want to give said conflict more depth than invading for OOC reasons.


Likewise, I'm just worried about jumping ahead.

Also.


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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:46 am

Oh. Before i leave you for a while to establish more infrastructure in my newest posts, i hereby bring to those who hate only Terten but not the Philippine bayan this message.

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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
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Postby Whiteshore » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:50 am

My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
#StandWithProgressivists

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Postby Quirina » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:52 am

Asigna wrote:-snip-

You post an ad of a company that bears a religious motto while you are reeducating Yemen and Romania? How many ironies do I equate with you? :p

Also.
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Postby Whiteshore » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:54 am

Quirina wrote:
Asigna wrote:-snip-

You post an ad of a company that bears a religious motto while you are reeducating Yemen and Romania? How many ironies do I equate with you? :p

Also.

I posted a link to my election BTW.
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
#StandWithProgressivists

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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:07 am

Quirina wrote:
Asigna wrote:-snip-

You post an ad of a company that bears a religious motto while you are reeducating Yemen and Romania? How many ironies do I equate with you? :p

Also.


That song is catchy.

I personally believe in god. But i disagree with Christianity or any other religion, they are simply man made innovations used for control. God is a mystery and i won't believe in what anyone says about god.

No one but the god(s) or whatever those higher beings want to refer themselves as could tell them who they really are.

But i consider the non personnal god of the fourth dimension, a dimension in brane cosmology who cannot be expressed in this 3d world.
NS's resident Filipino patriot. May also be that weird Vietnamese guy whose name must not be spoken.

Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Quirina » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:35 am

Asigna wrote:
Quirina wrote:You post an ad of a company that bears a religious motto while you are reeducating Yemen and Romania? How many ironies do I equate with you? :p

Also.


That song is catchy.

I personally believe in god. But i disagree with Christianity or any other religion, they are simply man made innovations used for control. God is a mystery and i won't believe in what anyone says about god.

No one but the god(s) or whatever those higher beings want to refer themselves as could tell them who they really are.

But i consider the non personnal god of the fourth dimension, a dimension in brane cosmology who cannot be expressed in this 3d world.

Actually yes, it is catchy. It details about a country anew, which is a celebration of a new society within Philippines. Yeah you might think it's dedicated to you not until I played this very song while FPR troops set afoot to Asigna Manila, Cebu and Davao.
एक, सच, अजेय
The Great Federated Noble States

"Strength determines the fates of the world, and the same should be applied over oppressors." - Maharajah Purva Ashvath IV


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Whiteshore
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Postby Whiteshore » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:36 am

Quirina, what do you think of my elections?
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
#StandWithProgressivists

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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:39 am

Quirina wrote:Yeah you might think it's dedicated to you not until I played this very song while FPR troops set afoot to Asigna Manila, Cebu and Davao.


It is a progressive song.

Hindi bagay sayo. Huwag kang umasa na maging astig yang kanta para sa iyo.

:p
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Asigna » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:48 am

Quirina wrote:
Asigna wrote:
That song is catchy.

I personally believe in god. But i disagree with Christianity or any other religion, they are simply man made innovations used for control. God is a mystery and i won't believe in what anyone says about god.

No one but the god(s) or whatever those higher beings want to refer themselves as could tell them who they really are.

But i consider the non personnal god of the fourth dimension, a dimension in brane cosmology who cannot be expressed in this 3d world.

Actually yes, it is catchy. It details about a country anew, which is a celebration of a new society within Philippines. Yeah you might think it's dedicated to you not until I played this very song while FPR troops set afoot to Asigna Manila, Cebu and Davao.


I'm changing my second national anthem then into...

Awit ng Pag-asa

Used with Awit ng Proetaryo.
NS's resident Filipino patriot. May also be that weird Vietnamese guy whose name must not be spoken.

Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Quirina » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:51 am

Whiteshore wrote:Quirina, what do you think of my elections?

No comment, unless the anti-communists are in the government or they win, I will support them after they became the government. I don't pull strings in foreign areas.

Asigna wrote:It is a progressive song.

Hindi bagay sayo. Huwag kang umasa na maging astig yang kanta para sa iyo.

:p

I know it's progressive, but not national progressive. At least Marcos don't enforce humanistic spirituality.

Ulol mo, hindi ka bagay sa mundong ito. 'Dun ka sa dimension mo!
You crackhead, you don't belong to this world. Go to your dimension!


:lol2:

Asigna wrote:I'm changing my second national anthem then into...

Awit ng Pag-asa

Used with Awit ng Proetaryo.


Idc.
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"Strength determines the fates of the world, and the same should be applied over oppressors." - Maharajah Purva Ashvath IV


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Postby Zhouran » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:52 am

Asigna wrote:Zhouran is planning to eliminate the Philippines simply because Zhouranese people think their Kangyuli race is master race and Filipinos are sub humans.

That's actually from the viewpoint of the more racially-focused side of the nation

Then there's the religiously-focused faction (most of them are members of the Zhouranese Orthodox Church) who see Terten's movement as a cult and that the Catholics of the Philippine are heretics.

But both of these factions have something in common: They're both conservative. Zhouran itself is a conservative nation (like that of Russia) and there's a movement known as Kaiming Chuantong (the opposition to any progressive movements).

The Kaiming Chuantong (Putonghua: 开明传统), also known as the Zhouranese Reactionary Traditionalists, are various Zhouranese political movements that were first created in early 1923. Anti-democratic, anti-egalitarian, anti-liberal and ultra-conservative, these reactionary movements strongly rejects progressive and egalitarian values, and supports traditional societal constructs, including support for authority, hierarchy, order in society, strong emphasis on religious identity, and traditional gender roles, coupled with ethnic nationalism, militarism, and a right-wing or conservative approach to economics.

Beliefs

- Ultra-conservatism and traditionalism

- Political authoritarianism

- Ethnic nationalism

- Militarism

- Strongly opposes progressivism, democracy and egalitarianism


Tenets

- No race is equal. Instead, all human races are different from each other.

- Each gender has traditional roles to carry out as expected.

- Culture, heritage, traditional values and morality should be defended against degeneracy and moral decay.

- Degenerate social values can destroy traditional values.

- People who follow traditional values are innocent and morally virtuous.

- Authority and hierarchy plays an important role in preserving law and order.

- Democracy is flawed because of irrational voters and lack of political education.

- Only the military should rule the government.

- Because civilians are militarily weak, they require charismatic guidance and protection from the military.

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Postby Whiteshore » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:54 am

Zhouran, have you considered approaching Filipino Conservatives?
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
#StandWithProgressivists

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Postby Quirina » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:56 am

Zhouran wrote:... and that the Catholics of the Philippine are heretics.


I demand you to take it back, since Asigna Filipinos are dumb and stupid about religion, politics and military as they are likely to be deceived by propaganda fed by the Asigna government. -said by The Philippine State
एक, सच, अजेय
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Postby Zhouran » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:59 am

Whiteshore wrote:Zhouran, have you considered approaching Filipino Conservatives?

"Conservatives, living in the world's leading Cultural-Marxist capital?"

- What the average Kaiming Chuantong follower would say

But seriously, I haven't thought of this, mainly because there's a communications blackout between the two nations. Intense Cold-War like atmosphere has caused Zhouran to cut off communications with the Philippines since Terten's seizure of power.

But, if there was a way... mmhhhh...
Quirina wrote:I demand you to take it back, since Asigna Filipinos are dumb and stupid about religion, politics and military as they are likely to be deceived by propaganda fed by the Asigna government. -said by The Philippine State

Kek

Sounds like North Korea v. 2.0 (but less Songun and more Progressivism)

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Postby Whiteshore » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:00 am

Zhouran, the average Soviet fanatic would have said something similar about the CPUSA, right?
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
#StandWithProgressivists

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Postby Zhouran » Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:04 am

Whiteshore wrote:Zhouran, the average Soviet fanatic would have said something similar about the CPUSA, right?

Maybe. Just remember that communism is splitted into numerous variants. All I know is that CPUSA is not stalinist, but rather more of soft-communism. Kind of similar between the Republicans of America and the Liberal Party here (ironic considering the fact that they're conservatives). The Republican GOP are kind of hardline conservatives while the "liberals" here are soft conservatives who are pro-choice for some reason (I'm hardline statist reactionary, making me more aligned to Russian-style conservatism than Aussie or American conservatism).

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