[TWI ONLY] The Senate of the Western Isles

[Alesini]

As much as I think Wildelyn's proposal is a troll post, we have to discuss it. All member nations have the right to present legislation and have it discussed by the senate. Seeing as there are no specific rules about this refusing to discuss it would be unconsitutional and in violation of Wildelyn's rights as a member nation. This my friends, is why I urge us to create such rules so that this may not happen again. Don't get me wrong, I understand where your all coming from, but as no rules exist on this matter from what I know, we must discuss or Wildelyn can and will take us to court. Why waste the justice's precious time over something so easily preventable?

It's not legislation. If that troll garbage Wildelyn posted is considered legislation, then so would a completely empty bill, or anything really.

Here, do you consider this legislation as well? Speaker, please add this to the docket if you're also adding Wildelyn's proposal to the docket.

Wasting Everyone's Time

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"A bill that seeks to waste everyone's time, specifically the Senate's time"

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Preamble

Seeing as the Senators and everyone else apparently have too much spare time on their hands, this bill seeks to solve that problem by wasting their time by trolling with pointless legislative proposals.

Wasting Time

1) The time of everyone in the Senate is hereby wasted, as they are forced to take this troll piece of legislation seriously

2) Due to the fact that time travel hasn't been invented yet, there is no way for anyone to take back the time that was lost processing this troll piece of legislation

Wildelyn's legislation has atleast some meaning, this however has none. Like I said I agree it is a troll post. However as there are no rules on this matter it must be considered as legislation.

[Agadar]

It's not legislation. If that troll garbage Wildelyn posted is considered legislation, then so would a completely empty bill, or anything really.

Here, do you consider this legislation as well? Speaker, please add this to the docket if you're also adding Wildelyn's proposal to the docket.

Wildelyn's legislation has atleast some meaning, this however has none. Like I said I agree it is a troll post. However as there are no rules on this matter it must be considered as legislation.

I am absolutely baffled that you believe that Wildelyn's 'legislation' has any meaning at all.

Speaker Dash, please make a decision on whether or not to take Wildelyn's troll proposal seriously or not so we can move on to actual important matters, such as PPU's bill.

[Doppler]

I vote NAY.

Cause it's "a bit funky"?

Not entirely because of that. I see it as instead of promoting more senators into the senate it grants more power just to one or two senators. I don't know how to particularly word it but I can explain it in further depth if I have to. (On mobile )

[Verdon]

I'm regretful that the other senators would move to vote without first allowing everyone to debate the merit of the current bill.

Echoing Doppler's sentiment, I'm not a big fan of the side effect of having less senators again. We just fixed that problem. Unfortunately, I think this legislation decreases the incentive for more senators. This is the most democratic branch of our government and I'd hate to see it reduced to three people again.

I'm going to vote FOR this bill as I think it favors representativeness of the member nations, but with the warning that subsequent legislation may be needed to rebalance the senate afterwards.

[Alesini]

I'm regretful that the other senators would move to vote without first allowing everyone to debate the merit of the current bill.

Echoing Doppler's sentiment, I'm not a big fan of the side effect of having less senators again. We just fixed that problem. Unfortunately, I think this legislation decreases the incentive for more senators. This is the most democratic branch of our government and I'd hate to see it reduced to three people again.

I'm going to vote FOR this bill as I think it favors representativeness of the member nations, but with the warning that subsequent legislation may be needed to rebalance the senate afterwards.

Wait this legislation means there can be only 3 senators?

[Agadar]

I'm regretful that the other senators would move to vote without first allowing everyone to debate the merit of the current bill.

Echoing Doppler's sentiment, I'm not a big fan of the side effect of having less senators again. We just fixed that problem. Unfortunately, I think this legislation decreases the incentive for more senators. This is the most democratic branch of our government and I'd hate to see it reduced to three people again.

I'm going to vote FOR this bill as I think it favors representativeness of the member nations, but with the warning that subsequent legislation may be needed to rebalance the senate afterwards.

Wait this legislation means there can be only 3 senators?

Of course not.

[Alesini]

Wait this legislation means there can be only 3 senators?

Of course not.

Good. I was confused for a second.

[Dashgrinaar]

May I remind everyone that the Senate reserves the right to set it's own proceedings. The Senate will not tolerate "legislation" with malicious or humorous intent, which does not construct. These pieces will not be constituted as legislation, and thus will not be considered.

Wildelyn's and Agadar's Bills "Prince PPU" and "Wasting Everyone's Time" are removed from the floor.

[United Great Britian]

you're mocking my bill, i dont like that.
this is prosecution and a clear violation of my rights to be unprosecuted and to present legislation.

You have no right to protection from prosecution!

[Agadar]

May I remind everyone that the Senate reserves the right to set it's own proceedings. The Senate will not tolerate "legislation" with malicious or humorous intent, which does not construct. These pieces will not be constituted as legislation, and thus will not be considered.

Wildelyn's and Agadar's Bills "Prince PPU" and "Wasting Everyone's Time" are removed from the floor.

I thank the Speaker for not indulging Wildelyn with his troll bill.

I'd also like to note that all Senators have voted on the Further Increasing Representation Amendment, unless I counted it wrong.

[Wildelyn]

you're mocking my bill, i dont like that.
this is prosecution and a clear violation of my rights to be unprosecuted and to present legislation.

You have no right to protection from prosecution!

6. To be free from unwarranted persecution from other members.

right of nation 6.
learn the constitution please.

[United Great Britian]

You have no right to protection from prosecution!

6. To be free from unwarranted persecution from other members.

right of nation 6.
learn the constitution please.

But, it was warranted.

[Dashgrinaar]

May I remind everyone that the Senate reserves the right to set it's own proceedings. The Senate will not tolerate "legislation" with malicious or humorous intent, which does not construct. These pieces will not be constituted as legislation, and thus will not be considered.

Wildelyn's and Agadar's Bills "Prince PPU" and "Wasting Everyone's Time" are removed from the floor.

I thank the Speaker for not indulging Wildelyn with his troll bill.

I'd also like to note that all Senators have voted on the Further Increasing Representation Amendment, unless I counted it wrong.

I did not see Senator Verdon's vote.

[Agadar]

I'm regretful that the other senators would move to vote without first allowing everyone to debate the merit of the current bill.

Echoing Doppler's sentiment, I'm not a big fan of the side effect of having less senators again. We just fixed that problem. Unfortunately, I think this legislation decreases the incentive for more senators. This is the most democratic branch of our government and I'd hate to see it reduced to three people again.

I'm going to vote FOR this bill as I think it favors representativeness of the member nations, but with the warning that subsequent legislation may be needed to rebalance the senate afterwards.

[Dashgrinaar]

Thanks Agadar. The bill PASSES 4 - 1 - 1. I will notify the Secretary of Information, as well as the Court.

Further Increasing Representation Amendment

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“An amendment to grant proportional votes to Senators that attain widespread support"

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(1) Changes "Senators are each granted one vote." in Article IV, Section 1 to "Senators are each granted one vote per vouch they have."

(2) Changes Section 4 from "Any member nation who has at least three vouchers is a Senator. Any vouchers over three have no effect. If less than three nations have three or more vouchers, then the President shall appoint one or more Temporary Senators from the nations who wish to be Senators so that the total Temporary Senators and Senators is three. The Temporary Senators' terms expire as soon as nations receive the necessary three vouchers."

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"Any member nation who has at least three vouchers is a Senator. If less than three nations have three or more vouchers, then the President shall appoint one or more Temporary Senators from the nations who wish to be Senators so that the total Temporary Senators and Senators is three. The Temporary Senators' terms expire as soon as nations receive the necessary three vouchers. Temporary Senators shall be granted three votes each."

[The Pacific Peace Union]

As it appears the entire senate is dismissing Wildelyns bill does that mean we will be moving on to mine?

[Agadar]

As it appears the entire senate is dismissing Wildelyns bill does that mean we will be moving on to mine?

I'm assuming so, yes. I will get to that rewording suggestion I promised you as soon as I can. In the meantime, unless the Speaker has any objections, I invite everyone else to debate PPU's proposed bill.

[Eutristan]

Recently Wildelyn has proposed legislation to the senate that has not yet been voted on, despite the almost immediate vote on the Further Increasing Representation Amendment. I may remind the senate the constitution outlines the senate must debate and vote on laws and amendments, and does not state the conditions on which this doesn't apply. In order to prevent an unnecessary and unproductive Wildelyn v. Senate case, I urge the senate to go through this process in regards to Wildelyn's bill. Although it may be regarded as "unnecessary" or "trolling", please voice your opposition to it in the form of a vote.

[The Pacific Peace Union]

It may be necessary for the senators to do so and then They can draft a procedure for dismissing such legislation afterwards.

[Agadar]

Recently Wildelyn has proposed legislation to the senate that has not yet been voted on, despite the almost immediate vote on the Further Increasing Representation Amendment. I may remind the senate the constitution outlines the senate must debate and vote on laws and amendments, and does not state the conditions on which this doesn't apply. In order to prevent an unnecessary and unproductive Wildelyn v. Senate case, I urge the senate to go through this process in regards to Wildelyn's bill. Although it may be regarded as "unnecessary" or "trolling", please voice your opposition to it in the form of a vote.

The bill was debated briefly, honorable Justice, and was found to be a pointless troll attempt, and was thusly rightfully dismissed by the Speaker.

[The Pacific Peace Union]

Recently Wildelyn has proposed legislation to the senate that has not yet been voted on, despite the almost immediate vote on the Further Increasing Representation Amendment. I may remind the senate the constitution outlines the senate must debate and vote on laws and amendments, and does not state the conditions on which this doesn't apply. In order to prevent an unnecessary and unproductive Wildelyn v. Senate case, I urge the senate to go through this process in regards to Wildelyn's bill. Although it may be regarded as "unnecessary" or "trolling", please voice your opposition to it in the form of a vote.

The bill was debated briefly, honorable Justice, and was found to be a pointless troll attempt, and was thusly rightfully dismissed by the Speaker.

That is true, the Senate has the right to dismiss legislation and they did discuss it.

[Eutristan]

Recently Wildelyn has proposed legislation to the senate that has not yet been voted on, despite the almost immediate vote on the Further Increasing Representation Amendment. I may remind the senate the constitution outlines the senate must debate and vote on laws and amendments, and does not state the conditions on which this doesn't apply. In order to prevent an unnecessary and unproductive Wildelyn v. Senate case, I urge the senate to go through this process in regards to Wildelyn's bill. Although it may be regarded as "unnecessary" or "trolling", please voice your opposition to it in the form of a vote.

The bill was debated briefly, honorable Justice, and was found to be a pointless troll attempt, and was thusly rightfully dismissed by the Speaker.

The legislation itself was not debated, rather if it was troll legislation or not. Please, I urge a vote on this, we cannot waste any time in the courts, as it would prevent us from proceeding with three other cases, possibly four.

[The Pacific Peace Union]

On behalf of the Senate, and the Court's time
I ask the Prince, PPU amendment not be discussed. I did not authorize it's proposal. It is an embarrassment to me and makes me look bad. Due to the fact one of the Justices is actually pushing it to be considered, and that it will be brought to court if not discussed, I plead that you allow its dismissal on the grounds that I simply do not want it, especially when it is concerning me. If for some reason it DOES go to court, I will be on the Senate's side and ask to take part in the trial. This legislation hurts my reputation, and makes it seem as if I am power hungry. It also uses me as a joke. I have nothing against Wildelyn, or anyone
but I just do not want my name to be involved with a court case, and what people are referring to as a trolling incident. Please respect this. OR VOTED ON FOR THAT MATTER.

[Wildelyn]

In accordance to friendship customs I have established between me and PPU, his royal highness has decreed I drop the legislation

Dearest Wildelyn,
I request my Prince amendment be dropped, not because I do not like it but because it will cause a huge issue involving my name. Otherwise I would support you in your freedom of legislation all the way.
Love,
PPU

thereof, I dismiss this legislation and all court-affiliated trials I have requested with it.

thank you,
senator wildelyn.

[Alesini]

We really need to establish some concrete rules so this doesn't happen again and cause such an unnecessary uproar. Wildelyn you shouldn't have done that without PPU's permission. Otherwise I would have supported your rights.