International Freedom Coalition (OOC, APPS TEMP CLOSED)

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

The power is already in the hands of ministers. Just as an example, Valaran got rid of all subordinate offices. I appointed you to wield such powers, you didn't do a thing. And now you're trying to cover it up, eh?

I tried to do anything in my power for the iFC Navy and was blackballed by the Council. So don't you fucking dare start hat bullshit with me. You just abruptly created a purchase and made it without having final approval from the Council, much like a dictator.

Well you didn't do anything about the RRF reforms. Valaran had done about two thirds of the work.

And the Prime Minister doesn't need approval to do things which aren't disallowed and are clearly in the best interests of the alliance. This is your problem, you almost never bring anything to a conclusion, you'd be happy to let the IFC drift.

As for the question of trying to involve new talent, you can reject as many people as you like, turn this into an old boy's club; stop the IFC from expanding, but I don't think that's the way to go. Just look at Pillowlandia. I think it's worth giving people the opportunity.

And yet, 4 out of 5 people that you accept have failed to stay active within the IFC. What's the point of accepting people if they do not stay active, make one or two posts, then disappear for months, never to be heard from again?

And never letting anyone new into power would be an improvement? Regions and alliances fail because they stop growing. Opportunity is so much better.

A balance between nations that are on the right and on the left.

.... No...?

Let's not do that?

There is a continuous danger of the IFC veering off to the right. Of course, since I consider you to be in the centre-right, I doubt you see it as a danger.

[Chkalovsk II]

I tried to do anything in my power for the iFC Navy and was blackballed by the Council. So don't you fucking dare start hat bullshit with me. You just abruptly created a purchase and made it without having final approval from the Council, much like a dictator.

Well you didn't do anything about the RRF reforms. Valaran had done about two thirds of the work.

And the Prime Minister doesn't need approval to do things which aren't disallowed and are clearly in the best interests of the alliance. This is your problem, you almost never bring anything to a conclusion, you'd be happy to let the IFC drift.

And yet, 4 out of 5 people that you accept have failed to stay active within the IFC. What's the point of accepting people if they do not stay active, make one or two posts, then disappear for months, never to be heard from again?

And never letting anyone new into power would be an improvement? Regions and alliances fail because they stop growing. Opportunity is so much better.

.... No...?

Let's not do that?

There is a continuous danger of the IFC veering off to the right. Of course, since I consider you to be in the centre-right, I doubt you see it as a danger.

The only reason you see 'danger' in the first place is because you think too much about the left-right political split. I mean I havent been here long, but ive stalked the IFC for a long time, and it doesnt seem like a problem.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

It's only not a problem because I've been addressing it. If I do my job well, you will never know that I'm doing it...

Yeah, I think you guys may need to elect someone else to be reminded of how bad it can get when I'm not in charge. After all, you control your future.

[Pillowlandia]

Yeah, I think you guys may need to elect someone else to be reminded of how bad it can get when I'm not in charge. After all, you control your future.

No. Just, no.


Also, please chill with your left-right "balance".

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

You haven't been in the IFC when I'm not in power, Pillowlandia; I expect you will learn. I have an annoying habit of eventually being proved right about almost everything.

[Guadalupador]

This whole alliance isn't even about balancing the political spectrum. It's about like-minded states putting their resources together for something greater out of their own volition. Or at least that's how I'd envision it. We're supposed take down oppression, we don't shelter it because it's threatened by other forces to keep some sort of "balance." The concept of a balance is subjective and has many different interpretations.

[The United Remnants of America]

.... No...?

Let's not do that?

There is a continuous danger of the IFC veering off to the right. Of course, since I consider you to be in the centre-right, I doubt you see it as a danger.

I didn't know we were politicking here. I thought the IFC was simply about preserving freedom, regardless of the political spectrum.

And if we're discussing government, I'm probably much closer to radical right since I'm only a hop, skip, and a step away from fascism, but that should be beside the point.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

This whole alliance isn't even about balancing the political spectrum. It's about like-minded states putting their resources together for something greater out of their own volition. Or at least that's how I'd envision it. We're supposed take down oppression, we don't shelter it because it's threatened by other forces to keep some sort of "balance." The concept of a balance is subjective and has many different interpretations.

And what exactly makes us like-minded? And what exactly counts as oppression? And how do we achieve any of these not-so-shared goals anyway? The devil is in the detail.

There is a continuous danger of the IFC veering off to the right. Of course, since I consider you to be in the centre-right, I doubt you see it as a danger.

I didn't know we were politicking here. I thought the IFC was simply about preserving freedom, regardless of the political spectrum.

And if we're discussing government, I'm probably much closer to radical right since I'm only a hop, skip, and a step away from fascism, but that should be beside the point.

And, with your nation a hop, skip, and step away from fascism, what exactly is freedom then?

It really isn't as straightforward as you all seem to think, I'm afraid, as alluded to in the manifesto - the world is such a clever and complicated place.

[Aeyariss]

Yeah, I think you guys may need to elect someone else to be reminded of how bad it can get when I'm not in charge. After all, you control your future.

Dont be such a Feng, Lib. Perhaps IFC does need to elect someone else with all this 'I am better than thou' complex of yours.

Meh.

[Gauliscia]

Now is the time to striiike

[New Roma Republic]

Now is the time to striiike

Bring it on, barbarians!

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Yeah, I think you guys may need to elect someone else to be reminded of how bad it can get when I'm not in charge. After all, you control your future.

Dont be such a Feng, Lib. Perhaps IFC does need to elect someone else with all this 'I am better than thou' complex of yours.

Well, you can't deny that in addition to having been the most controversial Prime Minister so far, I have also been the most successful, although of course I wish I could have been less controversial and more successful. We almost ceased to exist nine months ago, now there's very little chance of that happening any time soon. By thinking in terms of long-term stability I have stabilized us considerably. Our arguments are nothing like as bad as they used to be, indeed, we have far more but we always reach some compromise position and the possibility of break up is remote.

Indeed I should clarify that while I attack Shazbotdom, globally speaking there is not that much difference between us - I simply think I'd be better at the job, more focused on our long term development, on opportunity, on diversity, on trying to do everything rather than not trying to do so much.

Which stands to reason. If I didn't think my government was probably better, I wouldn't be running... but I could be wrong. Even if Shazbotdom is far worse than I think, you can probably risk electing them - after all, the Council's ability to force anything is the most effective law we have.

Anyway, Chilokver, when are we planning on actually running the election?

[Gauliscia]

Now is the time to striiike

Bring it on, barbarians!

*raises axe and roars*

[New Aeyariss]

Bring it on, barbarians!

*raises axe and roars*

Be aware though, they now have Nihonese ruling them .

[New Chilokver]

Lib, I don't have the time to run the elections unfortunately. Would you mind doing so?

[Valaran]

If chil can't run them, then someone neutral should probably do so.

[New Roma Republic]

If chil can't run them, then someone neutral should probably do so.

How about you, Val?

[Gauliscia]

*raises axe and roars*

Be aware though, they now have Nihonese ruling them .

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[Aeyariss]

Be aware though, they now have Nihonese ruling them .

?

Roman now worship the Nihon as Lord and Master.

[Gauliscia]

?

Roman now worship the Nihon as Lord and Master.

I couldn't care less. All will flee in terror before the unquestionable might of the Bœndesréich.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

If chil can't run them, then someone neutral should probably do so.

That would be my preference too.

Flardania, I know you're around, so as a member of the Judicial Committee, would you like to do the honours? I think they should be getting going about now, although I don't think anybody's going to care about a day or two.

[Valaran]

If chil can't run them, then someone neutral should probably do so.

How about you, Val?

I think its fair to say that I'm not neutral. I could be objective if required, but I would understand if people have their doubts about that.

Flardania, I know you're around, so as a member of the Judicial Committee, would you like to do the honours? I think they should be getting going about now, although I don't think anybody's going to care about a day or two.

^
If Flard's busy, perhaps Swiss or Mizrad could hold it?

[Romic]

Clearly I was incorrect in my belief of what this organization stands for. I bid thee adu.

Clearly you were, which means I made the right choice. This organization stands for balance ... for as long as I'm left in charge.

Also what? (would also like to reiterate my view that the Office of special projects or whatever is rather silly.)

Well, I appointed you to it almost immediately after you arrived to give you an opportunity to take charge of something. You suggested it was high time for a health authority, so, we revived the health authority. If you would prefer me to have left you in the depths of uselessness and inactivity, where all you could have done was grumble, I can only plead that I had the IFC's best interests at heart, and thought you showed promise.

Nice cutting words out of the quote. You rejected IoL because you are worried he'd vote against you. So now you are accepting and rejecting apps based on which nations you think will vote for you. Lib you are honestly the most corrupt person in charge of any organization in NS and honestly I hope you lose. You need taken out of power and subjected to the same bs you give other people. Stop pushing this agenda of yours and pushing your views on people. The IFC is not the EU you won't be in charge. SACTO is not evil. Left and Right doesn't matter if they are fighting together on the subject of FREEDOM and on of they'll vote your egotistical self centered tukous in a nice cushy PMship in a freaking game. Seriously get the hell over it.

[Flardania]

If chil can't run them, then someone neutral should probably do so.

That would be my preference too.

Flardania, I know you're around, so as a member of the Judicial Committee, would you like to do the honours? I think they should be getting going about now, although I don't think anybody's going to care about a day or two.

Hm what's a fair amount of time for the election to last?

[New Roma Republic]

That would be my preference too.

Flardania, I know you're around, so as a member of the Judicial Committee, would you like to do the honours? I think they should be getting going about now, although I don't think anybody's going to care about a day or two.

Hm what's a fair amount of time for the election to last?

3 or 4 days?