International Freedom Coalition (OOC, APPS TEMP CLOSED)

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Puny, finite mortals, in their little cages.

Tremble at the first glimpse of the eternal war. You mortals may think all power corrupts, but infinite power is infinite, and as you get closer, and your cage becomes infinite, you approach the final confrontation: interest vs. boredom; everything vs. nothing; and the ultimate question: why anything?

Pity the immortals, but join them or never know.

(By the way, anybody else up for an impossibly-far-in-the-future RP, when no rules can possibly apply? In such circumstances, all that is left is to contemplate the eternal light and darkness, but that's the basis for any really good RP).

I am now having a debate weather I should violate my principles and sign a pact with Ralk against Ausitoria or not..

Purely from an OOC perspective, that is fastest way to destroy the RP. In any event I have no intention of OOCly acknowledging the Nihonese Empire's actions until you have addressed my complaints.

[New Aeyariss]

Purely from an OOC perspective, that is fastest way to destroy the RP. In any event I have no intention of acknowledging the Nihonese Empire's actions until you have addressed my complaints.

TG me. I am fully eager to address them.

[Flardania]

I am now having a debate weather I should violate my principles and sign a pact with Ralk against Ausitoria or not..

Such a pact would be seen as most unfavorable...

[United States of Devonta]

I am now having a debate weather I should violate my principles and sign a pact with Ralk against Ausitoria or not..

Such a pact would be seen as most unfavorable...

Agreed and it seems more based on OCC dispute then anything.

[New Aeyariss]

Well I think that persepctive of having my own war with Ralk in the future is more tempting so... no anyway .

[Asigna]

I am now having a debate weather I should violate my principles and sign a pact with Ralk against Ausitoria or not..

Such a pact would be seen as most unfavorable...

This entertains me.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Purely from an OOC perspective, that is fastest way to destroy the RP. In any event I have no intention of acknowledging the Nihonese Empire's actions until you have addressed my complaints.

TG me. I am fully eager to address them.

And I am not eager, because you have already wasted most of my available time this month and I'd prefer to actually be able to get some RPing done in the next month with my friends here. There are plenty of interesting things going on with the IFC, and more interesting things that I would like to do, and no doubt other interesting opportunities my friends would like to pursue which we haven't been able to get on too.

The fact is I don't need you, and if the last month has taught me anything, it's that I can make far more progress leaving you behind. We seem to disagree on an enormous number of issues, right from economics to diplomacy to science to cannon to fairness to logic - indeed I cannot actually think of anything we agree on except the target of wealth creation, and even then we completely disagree on the method to achieve it, which means that you are more unlike me than anyone else I have ever met.

Therefore I have given up trying to change your mind (for the moment, anyway): whether you choose to change your mind and address my complaints is your own business. I know this means the fracture in IC reality is perpetuated, but that is unavoidable (and anyway of no immediate inconvenience to those aligned or approximately aligned with my cannon). I simply have better ways to spend my time than repeating old arguments or even bringing in new dimensions, since you take no notice of either: I think you formed an opinion of me long before I found the time to have anything to do with it, and you will probably never review your opinion.

So, unless you manage to change your own mind, if you don't have any IFC business, please do take yourself elsewhere and stop wasting our time.

(Sorry if it seems a bit harsh, but that is simply how things stand from my point of view).

[Mizrad]

Well then it looks like Mizrad will be dropping some serious amount of resources into both the RRF and the fight against Ralkovia. Any specific position that you would prefer I apply for or was there something else you had in mind?

You're soldiers will be hung from telephone poles and beaten like a Mexican piñata five days after Cinco De Mayo.

........I almost kind of want to see how that would be described in a post..... is that wrong?

[Valaran]

As you may have guessed from my few days of absence, I've been getting very fed up with all the endless OOC quarrels. The best solution to averting OOC quarrels may well be to do more things ICly - and we can't run an IC government properly at present, unless you fancy more direct government ("dictatorship") from my end, which just results in IC quarrels. Many hands make light work, but the number of government ministers has fallen from twelve to seven - if you think the IFC is still a bureaucracy, you couldn't be further from the truth.

I also think it would be more interesting and constructive if such disagreements were handled icly.

For reference, here is the provisional structure of the external consulate (the half of government under the Supreme Allied Commander) and here is the provisional arrangement of IFC forces. (Note some forces part of the RRF have been seconded to the Blue Cross).

Nice image. The IFC has quite a serious issue with the uneven sprawling of its bureaucracy, I think.

I miss you guys a lot.

God, to think I used to lead the place. I knew Austoria would become P.M eventually.

lol, I think us all old members thought that would happen.

[Mizrad]

We should hold slam poetry battles on an IRC.

The person who spits the most fire lines wins the argument.

OOC arguments = settled.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

You're soldiers will be hung from telephone poles and beaten like a Mexican piñata five days after Cinco De Mayo.

........I almost kind of want to see how that would be described in a post..... is that wrong?

A grey ardor of smoke rose heavily above the Capital of Mizrad, it's existence a not so subtle reminder of the Ralkovian victory. The Death Guard, the Elite Ralkovian Political Soldier, had punched through the city in the early morning, long before the Sun could bare witness and light to the ensuing atrocities. As the Death Guard seized control of the Capital Buildings, the Mizradi soldiers had largely surrendered, encapsulated by Ralkovian aircraft, artillery, and tanks.

Even early on these Mizradi Soldiers had realized that Hope was elusive, especially in the face of such overwhelming odds; yet still, when the Ralkovians had issued a term of mercy for unconditional surrender, they had let their pride get the better of them. They had fought on like rats trapped in a glue trap, ripping and raging, tearing themselves apart to remain defiant, but out of the bleary weariness of the nearly twenty thousand pieces of Ralkovian artillery and the hourly bombing raids, their strength had been sapped.

Long lines of Mizradi troops had no choice but to either fight on or surrender. For many, the battle remaining hopeless and the city largely abandoned by the Mizradi main force, left them with no alternative but to abandon their weapons, and make their way to the Death Guard positions.

They would, however, find that the time of mercy had long since passed. In their surrender, they had handed themselves to a fate much worse than death.

As the Sun rose above the horizon, peaking over the ruinous remains of the Mizradi Capital, it's warm light caught the cold, cruelty that had transpired.

Thousands of Mizradi soldiers now cast broken, bent shadows that seemed to swing with each passing breath of the gnawing wind. Some still moaned or cried, but most had long still been silenced either by death or by the last realization that they were dying, and that nothing could be done about it. None had even the energy to usher in a scream.

The Death Guard had resorted to their favored tactic for forcing surrender of their opponents; savage brutality. Nearly every single Mizradi soldier now hung from the plethora of meathooks the Death Guard carried, penetrated through either the legs and hung upside down, which provided a much quicker death, or through the scapula, placing the tremendous weight of the entire body on the shoulder. The Death Guard dispensed such judgements almost seemingly at random to the outsiders, but in a way it was the Death Guard's own way of showing mercy to the rank-and-file. The infantry would hung upside down, killing them within two days, while Officers would be hung by the Scapula, allowing them to suffer for weeks.

However, the Death Guard, having found the obstinance of the Mizradi particularly infuriating, did not find this punishment satisfying enough. Many Death Guard Pack Leaders had deployed soldiers armed with barbed sticks to walk around the city on the hour.

The beatings were almost as painful as the meathooks for these soldiers, the barbs cutting and piercing only past the skin did nothing to quicken death, but in all likelihood prevented the Mizradi from getting used to the immeasurable pain.

For those alive after two days, the constant rain and wet conditions had caused the skin on their bellies to shrivel, leaving loose, glossy, and stretchy canvas penetrated and torn across the body. The Death Guard now chose to come one every few hours, something of a small relief for the very small minority alive.

The only other company were the vultures and crows.

[Mizrad]

........I almost kind of want to see how that would be described in a post..... is that wrong?

A grey ardor of smoke rose heavily above the Capital of Mizrad, it's existence a not so subtle reminder of the Ralkovian victory. The Death Guard, the Elite Ralkovian Political Soldier, had punched through the city in the early morning, long before the Sun could bare witness and light to the ensuing atrocities. As the Death Guard seized control of the Capital Buildings, the Mizradi soldiers had largely surrendered, encapsulated by Ralkovian aircraft, artillery, and tanks.

Even early on these Mizradi Soldiers had realized that Hope was elusive, especially in the face of such overwhelming odds; yet still, when the Ralkovians had issued a term of mercy for unconditional surrender, they had let their pride get the better of them. They had fought on like rats trapped in a glue trap, ripping and raging, tearing themselves apart to remain defiant, but out of the bleary weariness of the nearly twenty thousand pieces of Ralkovian artillery and the hourly bombing raids, their strength had been sapped.

Long lines of Mizradi troops had no choice but to either fight on or surrender. For many, the battle remaining hopeless and the city largely abandoned by the Mizradi main force, left them with no alternative but to abandon their weapons, and make their way to the Death Guard positions.

They would, however, find that the time of mercy had long since passed. In their surrender, they had handed themselves to a fate much worse than death.

As the Sun rose above the horizon, peaking over the ruinous remains of the Mizradi Capital, it's warm light caught the cold, cruelty that had transpired.

Thousands of Mizradi soldiers now cast broken, bent shadows that seemed to swing with each passing breath of the gnawing wind. Some still moaned or cried, but most had long still been silenced either by death or by the last realization that they were dying, and that nothing could be done about it. None had even the energy to usher in a scream.

The Death Guard had resorted to their favored tactic for forcing surrender of their opponents; savage brutality. Nearly every single Mizradi soldier now hung from the plethora of meathooks the Death Guard carried, penetrated through either the legs and hung upside down, which provided a much quicker death, or through the scapula, placing the tremendous weight of the entire body on the shoulder. The Death Guard dispensed such judgements almost seemingly at random to the outsiders, but in a way it was the Death Guard's own way of showing mercy to the rank-and-file. The infantry would hung upside down, killing them within two days, while Officers would be hung by the Scapula, allowing them to suffer for weeks.

However, the Death Guard, having found the obstinance of the Mizradi particularly infuriating, did not find this punishment satisfying enough. Many Death Guard Pack Leaders had deployed soldiers armed with barbed sticks to walk around the city on the hour.

The beatings were almost as painful as the meathooks for these soldiers, the barbs cutting and piercing only past the skin did nothing to quicken death, but in all likelihood prevented the Mizradi from getting used to the immeasurable pain.

For those alive after two days, the constant rain and wet conditions had caused the skin on their bellies to shrivel, leaving loose, glossy, and stretchy canvas penetrated and torn across the body. The Death Guard now chose to come one every few hours, something of a small relief for the very small minority alive.

The only other company were the vultures and crows.

While I appreciate that you portrayed my troops as having fought a long, defiant battle I do see two problems with your post.

1. It's Mizradian, not Mizradi.
2. Severe lack of Cinco de Mayo references. In fact I could call the absence of them so severe I should have you tossed in the Sinkhole de Mayo!

Ah we have fun here....

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I'm constantly surprised Ralkovia hasn't suffered a devastating last resort, given what they do if they win.

We should hold slam poetry battles on an IRC.

The person who spits the most fire lines wins the argument.

OOC arguments = settled.

Extra points for iambic pentameter?

Talking of iambic pentameter, I'm getting a little bored in general with how RPing is done. I've been considering setting up a Society for Experimental RPs who make RPs in different forms - e.g. musicals (I've written a lovely number called 'little countries' - I was going to use it in the Maroon Revolution), plays (because who doesn't want to get Shakespearean or avante garde sometimes?), corporate memos (RPing countries gets repetitive) ... anybody else interested in trying something new some time?

Nice image. The IFC has quite a serious issue with the uneven sprawling of its bureaucracy, I think.

Thanks - an opportunity for me to familiarize myself with ppt smartart.

I know it looks horrendously complicated, but we need people to be able to focus on one thing at a time since most people don't have the time to try to do everything. I think this is the bare minimum - what would you cut?

I miss you guys a lot.

God, to think I used to lead the place. I knew Austoria would become P.M eventually.

lol, I think us all old members thought that would happen.

We should open up an IC predictions/betting market, that would be fun.

[Rhinocera]

I'm constantly surprised Ralkovia hasn't suffered a devastating last resort, given what they do if they win.

We should hold slam poetry battles on an IRC.

The person who spits the most fire lines wins the argument.

OOC arguments = settled.

Extra points for iambic pentameter?

Talking of iambic pentameter, I'm getting a little bored in general with how RPing is done. I've been considering setting up a Society for Experimental RPs who make RPs in different forms - e.g. musicals (I've written a lovely number called 'little countries' - I was going to use it in the Maroon Revolution), plays (because who doesn't want to get Shakespearean or avante garde sometimes?), corporate memos (RPing countries gets repetitive) ... anybody else interested in trying something new some time?

Nice image. The IFC has quite a serious issue with the uneven sprawling of its bureaucracy, I think.

Thanks - an opportunity for me to familiarize myself with ppt smartart.

I know it looks horrendously complicated, but we need people to be able to focus on one thing at a time since most people don't have the time to try to do everything. I think this is the bare minimum - what would you cut?

lol, I think us all old members thought that would happen.

We should open up an IC predictions/betting market, that would be fun.

P2TM my friend, if you're seeking a break from typical nations, you'll find it there.

[Mizrad]

P2TM my friend, if you're seeking a break from typical nations, you'll find it there.

It was on that day, that the truth had been spoken.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

P2TM my friend, if you're seeking a break from typical nations, you'll find it there.

Seeking a break from conventional nation based RPing, but definitely not from my nation or cannon.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I am disappointed that Ardoki promised us a grand RP, then suddenly "got busy".

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

[Mizrad]

I am disappointed that Ardoki promised us a grand RP, then suddenly "got busy".

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

If that's correct we can definitely provide him with some, he seems like a fun guy (or girl or attack helicopter idfk).

In other news is there any position in specific you'd like me to take up on the RRF for the Bluewell Conflict?

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

If that's correct we can definitely provide him with some, he seems like a fun guy (or girl or attack helicopter idfk).

- thanks for providing something to smile about! People can start to take things here seriously all the time - a really bad habit to get into.

In other news is there any position in specific you'd like me to take up on the RRF for the Bluewell Conflict?

By position, do you mean geographic? If so reinforcing/providing construction support in Port Z would be useful. If you mean administrative, do any job openings look interesting, perhaps setting up the Task Forces?

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

If that's correct we can definitely provide him with some, he seems like a fun guy (or girl or attack helicopter idfk).

In other news is there any position in specific you'd like me to take up on the RRF for the Bluewell Conflict?

I'm actually a violence tornado and prefer violence tornado pronouns.

I am disappointed that Ardoki promised us a grand RP, then suddenly "got busy".

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

Quite so, but I seek to destroy you slowly and from within.

I'm constantly surprised Ralkovia hasn't suffered a devastating last resort, given what they do if they win.

We should hold slam poetry battles on an IRC.

The person who spits the most fire lines wins the argument.

OOC arguments = settled.

Extra points for iambic pentameter?

Talking of iambic pentameter, I'm getting a little bored in general with how RPing is done. I've been considering setting up a Society for Experimental RPs who make RPs in different forms - e.g. musicals (I've written a lovely number called 'little countries' - I was going to use it in the Maroon Revolution), plays (because who doesn't want to get Shakespearean or avante garde sometimes?), corporate memos (RPing countries gets repetitive) ... anybody else interested in trying something new some time?

Nice image. The IFC has quite a serious issue with the uneven sprawling of its bureaucracy, I think.

Thanks - an opportunity for me to familiarize myself with ppt smartart.

I know it looks horrendously complicated, but we need people to be able to focus on one thing at a time since most people don't have the time to try to do everything. I think this is the bare minimum - what would you cut?

lol, I think us all old members thought that would happen.

We should open up an IC predictions/betting market, that would be fun.

Ralkovia actually has triple layers of anti-ballistic defense, with the Parthian and Scandinvan Empires assets to protect Ralkovia, Tyrrhenian assets to protect Ralkovia, and a global Empire of assets to protect Ralkovia from ballistic missile strikes. That being said, no one has ever tried, but rest assured, Ralkovia would largely shrug off being nuked once or twice, after all the Emperor nuked one of his own cities when it suddenly decided to support rebellion.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

After some thought on Valaran's point about bureaucracy in my provisional system, I've removed the position of Task Force Commander, because the IFC's RRF Corps can easily be treated as one of the Task Forces, giving a new provisional structure.

In addition, a few people have asked - well, someone asked me - fine, I asked myself - what ideal candidates for the jobs advertised would be, so this leaves us with the following set of ideal people:

1. Commander of the Air. The Commander of the Air should have an extensive knowledge or a willingness to learn about all matters regarding air warfare, and a desire to hold aircraft competitions and order cool fighters and superb support aircraft, and to gain air supremacy in every war the IFC so much as looks at, and a willingness to co-operate with the First Sea Lord and the Land Warfare Commander, even when they start to ask for the improbable.

2. Land Warfare Commander. The Land Warfare Commander should have extensive knowledge or a willingness to learn about all matters regarding ground warfare, and a desire to hold vehicle competitions and order cool Tanks and IFVs, and should know (or at least be willing to learn) how to use them.

3. First Sea Lord. The First Sea Lord should regard the Navy (including Naval Aviation) as the only thing worth paying any serious attention too, and should know (or be willing to learn) how to gain maritime supremacy. The First Sea Lord should also have some interest in trying to get members to pay him to order submarines, and should be inclined, after grumbling for a few minutes, to deliver the army and air force to their desired location, if it is not too dangerous, and then to keep them supplied until the end of the universe, if they don't go and get themselves killed.

4. Director of Peacekeeping. The Director of Peacekeeping should be equally at home with aspects of military policing and using civilian services to raise the quality of life for people, and should regard it as a positive factor that the IFC civil service has been taught to superimpose their government on whichever location they are in.

5. Cyberwarfare Commander. The Cyberwarfare Commander should be able to RP a well developed cyberwarfare capability, since none of us seem to know how to RP it. (Although I might be able to get away with a dimly lit room full of people typing furiously if I describe the atmosphere well enough).

So, if you want to leave your mark on the IFC, and perhaps even learn a little while doing so, applications will be very welcome!

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

Quite so, but I seek to destroy you slowly and from within.

Everybody knows that Ausitoria always gets its way in the end.

Ralkovia actually has triple layers of anti-ballistic defense, with the Parthian and Scandinvan Empires assets to protect Ralkovia, Tyrrhenian assets to protect Ralkovia, and a global Empire of assets to protect Ralkovia from ballistic missile strikes. That being said, no one has ever tried, but rest assured, Ralkovia would largely shrug off being nuked once or twice, after all the Emperor nuked one of his own cities when it suddenly decided to support rebellion.

No defence system can ever be 100% effective, and I'm surprised most nations don't consider war with Ralkovia to be a fight to the death... even a single missile can have a dozen warheads, and merely half a dozen missiles could make the survival of Ralkovia very unlikely indeed.

[Victoriala]

We should hold slam poetry battles on an IRC.

The person who spits the most fire lines wins the argument.

OOC arguments = settled.

Good on paper, cringy when applied.

[The Lendol Archipelago]

If that's correct we can definitely provide him with some, he seems like a fun guy (or girl or attack helicopter idfk).

In other news is there any position in specific you'd like me to take up on the RRF for the Bluewell Conflict?

I'm actually a violence tornado and prefer violence tornado pronouns.

Whirl, whirls and whirlself?

Shazbotdom, that simply won't do. Ardoki was very clear from the beginning (and quite rightly so) that the RP could not take priority over study. If you want a war RP, the IFC's natural public enemy no. 1 is Ralkovia, and Ralkovia, as far as I can make out, wants a lot more RPing from us.

Quite so, but I seek to destroy you slowly and from within.

That sounds like the exact opposite of what a violence tornado should do.

[New Chilokver]

If we're moving away from fighting Ardoki to fighting Ralkovia, I'm out. Much rather just avoid the inevitable realism concerns and OOC arguments associated with nations using NS stats and realism. :/

[The Lendol Archipelago]

If we're moving away from fighting Ardoki to fighting Ralkovia, I'm out. Much rather just avoid the inevitable realism concerns and OOC arguments associated with nations using NS stats and realism. :/

Wait, Ardoki used NS stats.
Am I missing something here?